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Yeah... As Dev, What I wrote is in the Developer notes. What you're quoting was posted by F95 Moderators, It was posted there exactly like that to cut down on bogus "Rule 7 violation" reports sent to F95 by people who haven't played the game to see that it doesn't contain any loli content. It keeps them from wasting time on bogus reports. I'm sorry that their comment on their site seems to have upset you. Hope your day get's better.
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Yeah, I think it's ridiculous, If you can't have/show any non-sexualized person under the age of 18 in a game, then there must be no people under the age of 18 in those game realities and every game world is doomed because there will be no future generation. Also, that "rule" effectively kills all Pregnancy routes too because either every pregnancy ends in a miscariage or women just remain pregnant forever, because babies are under 18...
It's a stupid rule and if my game comes to their attention I will fight it on the grounds that my game is not "Pornography" rather it is Art because it's primary purpose isn't the presentation of sexual content in order to induce a sexual response, but to tell a story with a point and a moral... Further, my game passes the Miller Test and is not considered Obscene because the work, when taken as a whole, does not lack serious literary, or artistic value.
I don't think my game will have an issue. but if it does, I'm willing to fight Patreon on this because it is idiotic to think that a story based in a world filled with people would have zero children in it. This is simply lazyness on their part to not have to actually discover if the children in these game are sexualized or not.
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Tell me about it. Feelin' like a
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Games do this btw. No kids in GTA5, invincible kids in Skyrim, etc. And good luck with the Miller Test argument with Patreon.
I wonder when devs will realize that Patreon is currently the AVN version of China. There should be absolutely no illusion of there being any artistic integrity when doing business with either entity. You choose to go after the money with Patreon (China for Hollywood) or you choose to create your artistic vision. There is no option to do both.
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Patreon is just one example of a trend toward extreme hypocrisy, and their decisions are increasingly arbitrary. Some content creators inexplicably and easily slip under the radar, and that doesn't just apply to adult content. You shouldn't believe that their "monitoring patrol officers" scan each content to determine whether or not it contains something that violates their rules, or even something that is not politically correct and violates some communitary rules. Most of the time, they intervene after receiving one or more complaints. A few years ago, erotic content that I presented on the platform was banned because we could recognize a place - which in fact has always been known as a vacation spot for nudists and where it still is today organized big ass- parties to talk crudely - a beach to be more precise. The mayor of the city was offended that "his" city was associated with a photo novel (same thing as a VN but with photos of real people) with erotic content. Maybe I should have made a deal with him, like the organizers of the fuckfests that take place every summer do?
Are you saying (tell me if I misunderstood) that you have to choose between creating artistic content, or monetizing your creation? One of the main point is to distribute content from this platform, and not to be obliged to invest large sums of money in a project and to be able to start working on it by being sponsored by voluntary donations. This allows beginner artists in particular to get started and acquire what they need to develop their project. I therefore see no reason to make such a primitive distinction between artists and financial need. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a job that pays enough to make an artistic project viable. Otherwise, no artist, whether in music, cinema, literature, etc., should receive a kopeck of what they produce?
I'd be fucked as wellAnd the comparison between games like GTA 5, Skyrim and all other PC and multi-console games isn't really fair. You can't compare "Rockstar Games" and "Bethesda" to "Dark Griffin Games" and "DriftyGames." This is simply irrational. This doesn't stop modders from creating pornographic content for both kinds, though, which are probably the most happy with all this censorship.
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Right, about the modders. Now you have places like Nexus Mods banning and censoring mods, so that area is getting infested as well.Patreon is just one example of a trend toward extreme hypocrisy, and their decisions are increasingly arbitrary. Some content creators inexplicably and easily slip under the radar, and that doesn't just apply to adult content. You shouldn't believe that their "monitoring patrol officers" scan each content to determine whether or not it contains something that violates their rules, or even something that is not politically correct and violates some communitary rules. Most of the time, they intervene after receiving one or more complaints. A few years ago, erotic content that I presented on the platform was banned because we could recognize a place - which in fact has always been known as a vacation spot for nudists and where it still is today organized big ass- parties to talk crudely - a beach to be more precise. The mayor of the city was offended that "his" city was associated with a photo novel (same thing as a VN but with photos of real people) with erotic content. Maybe I should have made a deal with him, like the organizers of the fuckfests that take place every summer do?
Are you saying (tell me if I misunderstood) that you have to choose between creating artistic content, or monetizing your creation? One of the main point is to distribute content from this platform, and not to be obliged to invest large sums of money in a project and to be able to start working on it by being sponsored by voluntary donations. This allows beginner artists in particular to get started and acquire what they need to develop their project. I therefore see no reason to make such a primitive distinction between artists and financial need. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a job that pays enough to make an artistic project viable. Otherwise, no artist, whether in music, cinema, literature, etc., should receive a kopeck of what they produce?
And the comparison between games like GTA 5, Skyrim and all other PC and multi-console games isn't really fair. You can't compare "Rockstar Games" and "Bethesda" to "Dark Griffin Games" and "DriftyGames." This is simply irrational. This doesn't stop modders from creating pornographic content for both kinds, though, which are probably the most happy with all this censorship.
It doesn't matter how big the studio, or not. Nor does it matter the creator's budget. A choice to prioritize profit vs art is a loss of integrity of that art.
Am I implying that the devs should do things a certain way? No, I am not. It is their choice. I simply pointed out that artistic integrity is non-existent when dealing with censoring entities that hold financial, legal or social control over your work.
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Yes, Nexus, like all media distribution platforms, falls under the same cleaver as the others, sooner or later
It's an interesting point of view, although a little narrow minded imho.
Yet the difference between a big studio and a small creator is in the millions of dollars, which is no small thing. But I see what you mean. Accepting rules enforced by others requires sacrificing something. Now, living in a society erected and run by a caste of people, then who doesn't abandon their own ideas when going to work in the morning? We all do the same thing with more or less freedom depending on our status, artist or not. And I think that for an artist, it is completely normal to want to show and have his works recognized other than retrospectively and after his death. Art is something that is shared to be appreciated by others. Why would a worker be entitled to a salary and not an artist? Does he not make an effort, does he not spend time creating? Whether it's paintbrushes, a guitar, or a computer, doesn't he spend money to practice his talent? The paintings of great painters, for example, which sell for fortunes long after they have benefited from the fame of their work. Do you really think they would spit up the money from the sales of their labor? We all obey the rules that others impose on us, and artists are no exception. Being able to make a living from your passion is an art in itself, and there are so many obstacles.
Coming back to this “Patreon” platform, and the example I gave. I was the one who created the account for the boyfriend of one of the aspiring models I was coaching. he was very hesitant but I thought he had a real talent for writing, so I helped him with the photo part. The ban came, and he thought it was over. Little did he know, was that he had been noticed by other comic artists and now, he writing stories for them. It's fair to say that Patreon served as a springboard for him. Yes, he still obeys rules, but then again, who doesn't?
The illusion is to believe that you can escape it. A perfectly upright human being who lives according to his own philosophy doesn't last long in this world I'm affraid.
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Dang, and I thought I was doing good at being perfectly upright... guess I'm screwed.
Oh well. now back to working on my "Wholesome" AVN.
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Perfectly upright, the full virtuous package, and being on F95 in the same time? Yeah, rightDang, and I thought I was doing good at being perfectly upright... guess I'm screwed.
Annnnd you know what I mean. There are people who think they are better than others, sort of condescending people who look down on others without ever having done anything about the subject they are talking about. I was just trying to find out what kind of reviewer he or she belongs to
Don't they say “criticism is well-off and art is difficult”?
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Yeah, folks be glossing over the scene of MC celebrating his divorce with a gangbang of all his employees lol. But wholesome is as wholesome does.Dang, and I thought I was doing good at being perfectly upright... guess I'm screwed.
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