Geralt From Rivia

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Just before ep9 was released DPC stated in a message about the length of that development that he made this game as a hobby, and he would do it rather it sold or not, or words to that effect. It struck me at the time that he gave us a real insight into his motivations and intensions.

First of all I don't believe it's just a hobby, after all it's the income from this game that enables him to sit around and play with his toys all day, instead of going out to work. So selling the game does matter to him. But all of the things you just mentioned about ignoring short comings make more sense when considered in this light. I think he enjoys making minigames, therefore minigames infuse the game. I think he's recently become more interested in animation, within the last few years, and we're now seeing an increase in often pointless animations.
He can treat this as a hobby, especially if it brings him pleasure.
But in fact, this became his main job, allowing him to provide himself with a good life.
When your work is your hobby and brings good income, many of us can dream of such life. But it’s almost all the time in front of a PC screen.
His love for mini-games is noticeable, there are a lot of them now and not all of them are successful, the math mini game and this cube are complete crap. Not all players have the mindset to enjoy it.
 
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dalli_x

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To say that Riona was bred from the game, returning to your words that her future is not predetermined, is an assumption and fortune-telling, but not a fait accompli.
And knowing his approach to plot twists at the end of the episode, nothing fatal will happen to Riona. We might see minimal content with her in Ep.11, but that's it. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK...FUCK moment.

In fact, by doubling the number of frames in animations, he doubled the number of calculations and in no way made rendering faster than manual work. In contrast, towards the end of Ep 10's development, we got a queue of animations again as he polished the episode.

Did he create a snowball fight? I don’t remember this, did he write this in his status reports?
For us players, Riona's future is uncertain. This is not an assumption and fortune telling. I can't say 100% what will happen to Riona. The only one who knows 100% at this point is DPC.

One thing is a fact. The render queue is depleting faster than he can keep up with all his work. An empty render queue is of no use to us players and DPC. That's the end of it.

DPC himself wrote so that he could finish all the minigames for season 3.
Actually no, you don't need to do full pre-renders. Just go to Iray mode in viewing tab and DAZ will quickly show you what your render will look like - with his hardware, one minute is enough to evaluate the result that will come out. Then with experience you get used to it and you don’t need it anymore. The fact is that he knows how to make good light. Many of his renders have very high quality lighting, but some have poor lighting. Perhaps he was just in a hurry and “it will do as it is”.
What you write is also correct, but you should consider the mass of images and animation (FPS). In terms of time, this adds up enormously. Then minutes become hours and then days.
 

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He can treat this as a hobby, especially if it brings him pleasure.
But in fact, this became his main job, allowing him to provide himself with a good life.
When your work is your hobby and brings good income, many of us can dream of such life. But it’s almost all the time in front of a PC screen.
His love for mini-games is noticeable, there are a lot of them now and not all of them are successful, the math mini game and this cube are complete crap. Not all players have the mindset to enjoy it.
The mini-games themselves are one of those things. Some people like them and others don't. You can't please everyone.:rolleyes:
 

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Derek might have cheated at Hell Week.:unsure:
Old Lady: "Oh, you young boys with your toys..."
Old Lady: "Put that down and focus."
 

Kpyna

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So far it feels like the episodes haven't reached their growth limit yet - we now have dedicated time for each MG from Ep.9 (which was not the case in the first two seasons), so the growth limit has been reached here, but:
1. We also have the Side Girls block, which is still in active development, their lines are gradually becoming more pronounced and will develop further. Riona, Quinn, Lily, Nicole, Zoey will most likely receive full-fledged routes with a set of content. So it's more content for episodes.
Probably they are, already. We are at the place of the story where there is no space to grow but to reveal the secrets, get the answers instead of bring the new questions and manage branches which we already have.

DPC told about SGs already. He will satisfy all possible paths in general but only partially in each new episode, speaking of SGs. Some of SGs will have nothing from time to time and they will exchange from episode to episode. We already seen it in EP9 and EP10 and even before in S1-2. And the most part of content will be getting the side girls with a real potential paths, while the ones with filler role (Camila, Sarah, Mel, a bunch of dormies, etc) are exist only to bring us some lewd scenes from time to time. MGs are in much better position, they will always get content and amount of it will be balanced as much as possible.

2. DPC likes to come up with new things, not always successful. Long animations are his innovation. Animations in DAZ simply rape the PC and take a very long time to complete. Moreover, it’s a strange decision to make animations at 60 FPS so that the hardware doesn’t sit idle.
Long animations was new for EP9, but now it's a routine and with his new rigs it's not a big deal either. He was quite modest with animations in EP10 btw. The only long one was a BBQ party intro. Nothing compared to EP9 3 long ass animations.

Regarding 60 fps... well, probably he should use the middle path and do interpolation instead of native 60 fps rendering. But honestly, 60 fps is looks much smoother than 30. If it doesn't increase the development time and makes him happy, since rigs don't stay idle periodically - I'm ok with them. The thing is, that the 30fps will probably won't decrease the dev time either. At least now.

3. He love new mini-games and big free roams, I love interactivity, but it also increases development time. These open world renders, especially the party ones, require a lot of preparation time.
What else mini-games do you expect? I think he didn't lied when he said he did the base work and most of them till the rest of the game. He is done with them for Season 3 and I don't expect something significant or brand new in Season 4, because this season supposed to be quite special and the last half of it will barely have something like new mini-games. Probably none at all, since we will be in the phase of highly branched story outcomes and endings. Even if he will bring some new ones, they will not be so complicated and difficult to code as it was with the party planner and so on.

Now to the free roams and big events. How much of this did we had in EP10? 3 events, mostly. DIK mansion party aftermath and cleaning. BBQ party and Thanksgiving at Maya's place. All other ones are minor and was ranged from middle to tiny ones. And he mentioned that he already done with at least 2 big events (probably free roams). And that sounded promising. Because the other facts are:

- more than 50% of lewd scenes are done and only 8 was left 2 weeks ago and he said that 2 more was almost ready. So at this moment and probably following the next status updates he will only have to complete the 6. And this is amazing, since it's not only about the posing, but rendering them too. It's safe to assume that they are completely done - posed and rendered.

- mini-games are done, tweaking and adding content to the existent ones is quite easy task.

- at least 2 big events (free roams) are done too, which compairing to EP10 is also more than 50% currently.

The rest and major part of work left are canon and branched scenes, static renders and writing.

4. Plus, potential content with girls that MC's magic stick has so far bypassed.
Sally, Elena, girls from the dorm.
Throwing 1-2 lewd scenes for 1-time fuck purposes as it was with Heather in EP9 or dorm girls in EP8 is not that hard.

If there is potential for growth, DPC will most likely take advantage of it. I certainly don’t think that time will increase exponentially, but by the end of the game’s development it could reach 1.5 years, maybe even a little more.
Season 2 received a full release at the end of 2021, now we are unknown at what stage of Ep.11 development and are in April 2024, 2 years and 4 months. Season 3 may well take a full 4 years of development, this is quite possible.
That's a little cold shower from me. But we'll see how it goes; indeed, not all episodes were longer in development than the previous ones.
I'm not so sure about the last episodes and such potential huge development time for them. He will have to unroll all the possible outcomes of branches and sub-branches and not fuck up and spoil the whole game, because the end is the most important part, bring us consequences and so on, but at the same time the last episodes are usually quite linear. I'm not even sure that we will have a free roams (at least the big ones) and mini-games in the last episodes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see it useful in the epilogue part.

Despite all his obsession and constant desire to add or improve something, he is still aware that the game cannot be in development for 10 years or even more. And that the time for such games is running out and that the gap in quality between the first and last episodes is getting bigger and bigger. It's no news that many players are scared off by the visual part of the first season. Because you have to hook and hold on the old players and bring the new ones. What the new ones have to start with? Right, from the first episodes, the first season... The more years will past from now, the more awful it will look and feel for new players and the more old players will be lost due to different circumstances. At the same time, it is also impossible to remaster and pause the current development in order to bring the game and its visual part to a common denominator at the moment, and he has already expressed his point of view on this matter. That if it will be done, it will be only after the release of the final episode.
 

DavDR

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He can treat this as a hobby, especially if it brings him pleasure.
But in fact, this became his main job, allowing him to provide himself with a good life.
When your work is your hobby and brings good income, many of us can dream of such life. But it’s almost all the time in front of a PC screen.
His love for mini-games is noticeable, there are a lot of them now and not all of them are successful, the math mini game and this cube are complete crap. Not all players have the mindset to enjoy it.
The point I was trying to make (though admittedly worded badly) was his mindset in making the game. I don't think he's really interested in the story, writing it is just a chore that enables him to enjoy his hobby while making a living. I also don't think he's much concerned with finishing it. He seems to do just enough to keep his patrons happy, then when that's out of the way he can go back to enjoying those things that interest him.
 

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Probably they are, already. We are at the place of the story where there is no space to grow but to reveal the secrets, get the answers instead of bring the new questions and manage branches which we already have.

DPC told about SGs already. He will satisfy all possible paths in general but only partially in each new episode, speaking of SGs. Some of SGs will have nothing from time to time and they will exchange from episode to episode. We already seen it in EP9 and EP10 and even before in S1-2. And the most part of content will be getting the side girls with a real potential paths, while the ones with filler role (Camila, Sarah, Mel, a bunch of dormies, etc) are exist only to bring us some lewd scenes from time to time. MGs are in much better position, they will always get content and amount of it will be balanced as much as possible.


Long animations was new for EP9, but now it's a routine and with his new rigs it's not a big deal either. He was quite modest with animations in EP10 btw. The only long one was a BBQ party intro. Nothing compared to EP9 3 long ass animations.

Regarding 60 fps... well, probably he should use the middle path and do interpolation instead of native 60 fps rendering. But honestly, 60 fps is looks much smoother than 30. If it doesn't increase the development time and makes him happy, since rigs don't stay idle periodically - I'm ok with them. The thing is, that the 30fps will probably won't decrease the dev time either. At least now.


What else mini-games do you expect? I think he didn't lied when he said he did the base work and most of them till the rest of the game. He is done with them for Season 3 and I don't expect something significant or brand new in Season 4, because this season supposed to be quite special and the last half of it will barely have something like new mini-games. Probably none at all, since we will be in the phase of highly branched story outcomes and endings. Even if he will bring some new ones, they will not be so complicated and difficult to code as it was with the party planner and so on.

Now to the free roams and big events. How much of this did we had in EP10? 3 events, mostly. DIK mansion party aftermath and cleaning. BBQ party and Thanksgiving at Maya's place. All other ones are minor and was ranged from middle to tiny ones. And he mentioned that he already done with at least 2 big events (probably free roams). And that sounded promising. Because the other facts are:

- more than 50% of lewd scenes are done and only 8 was left 2 weeks ago and he said that 2 more was almost ready. So at this moment and probably following the next status updates he will only have to complete the 6. And this is amazing, since it's not only about the posing, but rendering them too. It's safe to assume that they are completely done - posed and rendered.

- mini-games are done, tweaking and adding content to the existent ones is quite easy task.

- at least 2 big events (free roams) are done too, which compairing to EP10 is also more than 50% currently.

The rest and major part of work left are canon and branched scenes, static renders and writing.


Throwing 1-2 lewd scenes for 1-time fuck purposes as it was with Heather in EP9 or dorm girls in EP8 is not that hard.


I'm not so sure about the last episodes and such potential huge development time for them. He will have to unroll all the possible outcomes of branches and sub-branches and not fuck up and spoil the whole game, because the end is the most important part, bring us consequences and so on, but at the same time the last episodes are usually quite linear. I'm not even sure that we will have a free roams (at least the big ones) and mini-games in the last episodes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see it useful in the epilogue part.

Despite all his obsession and constant desire to add or improve something, he is still aware that the game cannot be in development for 10 years or even more. And that the time for such games is running out and that the gap in quality between the first and last episodes is getting bigger and bigger. It's no news that many players are scared off by the visual part of the first season. Because you have to hook and hold on the old players and bring the new ones. What the new ones have to start with? Right, from the first episodes, the first season... The more years will past from now, the more awful it will look and feel for new players and the more old players will be lost due to different circumstances. At the same time, it is also impossible to remaster and pause the current development in order to bring the game and its visual part to a common denominator at the moment, and he has already expressed his point of view on this matter. That if it will be done, it will be only after the release of the final episode.
A quick plot tool to do less path work is a fire. A nice big one that kills off most of the HOTs (no pun intended). DPC, Derek, John Boy and Jacob can only save one each.

This makes finishing by 16 episodes, just a bit easier.

Hope this helps DPC, who reads all the posts here to correct and fill in plot holes.

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Moni23

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Isn't it tragic ? DrPinkcake tried to make all the paths compelling and equal in content but players like you and dalli_x don't even bother to try more than one path :LUL:

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The players have more than enough time to decide if they are interested in a girl. If I've already decided that I'm not interested in her before I go on a date with Jill, then why should I kiss her? It's like buying food that you don't like.
 

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After putting off playing episode 10 I have now finally finished it.

The worst part is how Josy is taking the rejection if you don't choose her, makes me regret the choice a bit since she is so lovely. I wonder if it is possible to reignite the relationship later on. The dynamic between the main girls are a bit strange in my opinion. How realistic is it that 5 girls that you have banged become friends and start hanging out? If it was me I wouldn't be able to remain friends with Josy at least. My point is that I expect the possibility to have affairs with the others girls in later episodes.

Another thing that I realized is that the chick/faithful paths are turning into more of a romance drama than an adult game. Not complaining since the story is great but I find myself curious to try the DIK other path.
 

Darkwen

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After putting off playing episode 10 I have now finally finished it.

The worst part is how Josy is taking the rejection if you don't choose her, makes me regret the choice a bit since she is so lovely. I wonder if it is possible to reignite the relationship later on. The dynamic between the main girls are a bit strange in my opinion. How realistic is it that 5 girls that you have banged become friends and start hanging out? If it was me I wouldn't be able to remain friends with Josy at least. My point is that I expect the possibility to have affairs with the others girls in later episodes.

Another thing that I realized is that the chick/faithful paths are turning into more of a romance drama than an adult game. Not complaining since the story is great but I find myself curious to try the DIK other path.
That's why you don't make miss Sunshine upset it bad for health
 

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In my defense, I never proclaimed to be normal.
Indeed you're an Italian that says "Eh" like a Canadian and you put pineapple on your pizza... You've completely fallen from normality :HideThePain: :Kappa:

That's why you don't make miss Sunshine upset it bad for health
Others DIK: I just want to bang Josy again then dump her when she tries to make it a serious relationship :sneaky:
 
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