There are some things DPC forgot to show throughout the story. The main one is at what point MC decided it was time for him to enter into a relationship. It would make sense if MC had this thought of picking some girl during season 2 and then episode 8 would be the time to decide. However, what DPC did was make something click in MC's mind when he saw the LIs together and then he went to ask Elena about it. This got extremely far-fetched and it would be much better if MC was developing this line of thinking over time.
Welcome to my little rant about DIK MC and Jill and how DPC IMO completely screwed their storyline. Please read it with open mind and I ecnourage you to discuss it with me. Gonna respond when I finish the episode being really sad. Cheers guys.
And of course someone can come up to me and tell me that Jill was obviously gonna end up only with CHICK MC and I understand the thinking process of DPC behind this decision. DIK has a lot of casual pussy but he will have only Sage and maybe Bella for a main girl. I get it.
That being said from a storytelling perspective in this point of the story, where as a player I'm forced to make this decision, I'm greeted with this narrative.
MC tells Isabella that he cares about Jill (this is an option available only if you're dating Jill), then decided to fight for her with Tybalt. Then there's a scene in her dorm where they have amazing connections but at the end she says "it doesn't seem right" and we don't get CHICK exclusive scene.
From that point game completely forgets about their relationship and almost every next possible interaction with Jill is exclusive to CHICK MC.
Even if I went with her on a date on field where they had plenty of chemistry AND didn't do that dick pick on Tybalt's phone (making her realise MC was swinging a lot) NOTHING CHANGES.
She mentioned once how Rusty was sweet but behaved differently in front of his peers. I assumed that DIK MC would face the same challange while trying to be with her and perhaps even automatically fail in the process.
But no, DIK MC can as much as CHICK help her during her concert making huge storytelling sacrifice of his badass personality to play a beautiful music on guitar just to aid her in this very moment. Nothing changes.
And I want to repeat myself, that there's nothing wrong with making Jill exclusive to CHICK MC. I understand why that would be the case.
But what's frustrating for someone so invested in this story is that as for this moment in my playthough (I stopped just when I saw what MC said and when I checked if stopping MC from snapping dick pick would change anything - it doesn't matter at all, just freaking affinity) there was NO POINT in the story where Jill or MC had a situation in which I can sense MC's words coming
"I've been dating Jill, but we never felt entirely right for each other" Where? The only issue is the fact that DIK MC is a fucking machine and she feels uncomfortable around this topic.
Can someone please explain it to me from a different point of view, make me change my mind or something?
Because it really bothers me, it feels like a plot hole or a rushed plot point where DPC didn't think about including such scene, thinking Jill ignoring us more (which in storyline makes sense, Tybalt is blackmailing her) is the signal for MC that they're not meant for each other.
And after forgeting about that part DPC just wanted to go and make this point in "Crossroads" where players will have to commit to a girl.
Feels like DPC had in mind that DIK MC and Jill aren't meant for each other but forgot to show it through story and dialogue.
Which is a damn shame.
EDIT: Quick edit because I just got to that part. Few scenes later Jill texts MC that she's on a third date with Tybalt and says it wouldn't be the worst thing if this date came to an end thanks to MC. And then MC says something along the lines of "I already made my mind and I don't want to make her hopes up".
So if the dialogue implies that it's MC that made this decision and Jill still has a lot of feelings for him then from which fucking point in the story he assumed that they're not meant for each other. Ah yes from his DIK affinity statistic stuck in his ass.
It's like I understand that Jill wouldn't choose to go all in with DIK MC, I understand that she feels skeptical towards DIK MC but if the choices of "I want to go all in with this girl" is set on MC's feelings only then implying that DIK MC wouldn't feel like going more serious with Jill is fucking bullshit
The entire episode is something truly amazing but this thing with Jill? What a waste...
Yes, I had to open the game folder with the 7.4.6 Ren'Py SDK and Force Recompile before loading it from the SDK. That's the only way I've been able to get BaDIK 8.x to work. There's something seriously wrong with the Ren'Py SDK 7.4.10 and I haven't been able to find anyone besides you having identical issues. A quick review of the commit history in the GitHub repo didn't show much, but it is also hard to follow without any release tagging.
There are some things DPC forgot to show throughout the story. The main one is at what point MC decided it was time for him to enter into a relationship. It would make sense if MC had this thought of picking some girl during season 2 and then episode 8 would be the time to decide. However, what DPC did was make something click in MC's mind when he saw the LIs together and then he went to ask Elena about it. This got extremely far-fetched and it would be much better if MC was developing this line of thinking over time.
I think there are some moments throughout the game when MC question his relationship like when at the bar with Tommy mc looks at the picture of Jill with some hesitation and there's another moment like this I can't remember that one
But I think you're right the realization should've come to mc By self
There are some things DPC forgot to show throughout the story. The main one is at what point MC decided it was time for him to enter into a relationship. It would make sense if MC had this thought of picking some girl during season 2 and then episode 8 would be the time to decide. However, what DPC did was make something click in MC's mind when he saw the LIs together and then he went to ask Elena about it. This got extremely far-fetched and it would be much better if MC was developing this line of thinking over time.
there has been some signal (for example the question of the rebound guy goes in that direction), the problem is that a choice that does not fit well in every game, in fact almost in none
if i am already loyal to a LIs, and therefore already out of the path of the others, what sense does that moment have? in some cases it is no longer even a choice but a formality, which takes away the sense of everything that happens from the recital to the choice.
and in the same way if i am having sex with anyone, EVIDENTLY i am not interested in choosing
I'm the type that really disliked Affinity system because I felt like it was constraining the plot and DPC had to bend it to make it work.
Also for that reason I really loved how because of Affinity you can't get on Josy and Maya route but she and MC still have feelings for each other. If this gets abandoned on a notion that we can't have everything and she decided on save bet than I will be happy. But it needs to come from story.
Not from MC having "a moment" in his mind. This is lazy storytelling in a game so focused on player choice and decision making
Im confused as to how to interact with Heather in order to set up any future scenes that may unfold.
In some scenes, she seems to like DIK mc but in others, she completely blows him off and is almost disgusted.
In your guys opinion, what would be the best way to approach her interactions in order to get the best possible outcomes in the future? Should I continue being a DIK or should I try the CHICK route with her? Or maybe Neutral?
Question: someone sends Dawe a lot of photos of Arieth with several DIKs (including Derek teaming with Jakob!). It´s supposed that those photos were in Jamie´s phone? During the previous scene, he says that he lost it. Although, the first foto is a selfie of Rusty, so should be in Rusty´s phone, and the last one seems to have been taken by an spectator (Jaime?) standing over the other three persons laying on the floor.
Maybe those photos were in DIK´s laptop? We know that Professor Burke somehow has access to that laptop when he gets the video of the MC and Jade, although I don´t see why the dean of the college would even know who Arieth and Dawe are. Maybe Tommy or any other of the DIKs?
Who do you think that got those photos and send them to Dawe, and why? Obviously, is the same person that blackmails Chad, since the letters arrive at the same time, and I don´t think Mel and Sarah (my previous number 1 suspects) would have access to those photos. Any crazy (or not so crazy) theory about that?
Everyone has access to everyone during a drug alcohool party.
becoming hazy after some pints / dudds makes it possible for snoopers to snoop.
Girls being wary of gettting hit on and led to chambers will stay sober and would snoop.
Im confused as to how to interact with Heather in order to set up any future scenes that may unfold.
In some scenes, she seems to like DIK mc but in others, she completely blows him off and is almost disgusted.
In your guys opinion, what would be the best way to approach her interactions in order to get the best possible outcomes in the future? Should I continue being a DIK or should I try the CHICK route with her? Or maybe Neutral?
She´s the girlfriend of the "massive DIK" of this game, so you know the kind of guy he likes. And, if you tell her about Tommy`s affairs, she sees you under a different light, not just like the "pervert freshy". What I don´t know is, if telling her is going to have a negative outcome with Tommy and the DIKs. It´s a betrayal of the code "family comes first", after all. Maybe Tommy is going to take revenge on you for that later. It seems to be one of the traps that DPC set for the player that provides initial gratification, but returns later to bite the player´s ass.
How did you got rejected by Jill with Chick affinity? Did you miss 1 of the important variables? But then again how did you end up in the restaurant where she is with Tybalt?
Question: someone sends Dawe a lot of photos of Arieth with several DIKs (including Derek teaming with Jakob!). It´s supposed that those photos were in Jamie´s phone? During the previous scene, he says that he lost it. Although, the first foto is a selfie of Rusty, so should be in Rusty´s phone, and the last one seems to have been taken by an spectator (Jaime?) standing over the other three persons laying on the floor.
Maybe those photos were in DIK´s laptop? We know that Professor Burke somehow has access to that laptop when he gets the video of the MC and Jade, although I don´t see why the dean of the college would even know who Arieth and Dawe are. Maybe Tommy or any other of the DIKs?
Who do you think that got those photos and send them to Dawe, and why? Obviously, is the same person that blackmails Chad, since the letters arrive at the same time, and I don´t think Mel and Sarah (my previous number 1 suspects) would have access to those photos. Any crazy (or not so crazy) theory about that?
There was a theory a while ago that someone somehow managed to get the laptop out of the safe in Rustys room. John boy says that he heard sex sounds coming from Rustys room earlier in the party. The theory was that someone snuck into the room while Rusty was busy having sex, stole the laptop and went to the library. They copied the files, posted the Cathy cluck from the official DIK Rooster account and left the laptop in the library.
Not really sure how plausible it is, but I could see how it would work. Im sure someone other than the DIKs know where the laptop is at and the combination to the safe. My guess is that it probably has something to do with Vinny and possibly Nick.
There was a theory a while ago that someone somehow managed to get the laptop out of the safe in Rustys room. John boy says that he heard sex sounds coming from Rustys room earlier in the party. The theory was that someone snuck into the room while Rusty was busy having sex, stole the laptop and went to the library. They copied the files, posted the Cathy cluck from the official DIK Rooster account and left the laptop in the library.
Not really sure how plausible it is, but I could see how it would work. Im sure someone other than the DIKs know where the laptop is at and the combination to the safe. My guess is that it probably has something to do with Vinny and possibly Nick.
I think you got it right. Vinny and Nick are into it, pretty sure. Nick was still "searching" in the library after the laptop was found there is just too suspicious. Also the person who is lurking around the mansion (the infamous bedroomscene where the light gets blocked) could very well be Vinny.
Nicks room not being trashed makes me thinking that Vinny is in it. Maybe working together with the Alphas perhaps even their new dealer since they stopped doing business with Quinn.
Vinny is going to be a real pain in the ass in the upcoming episodes.
***edit*** And.... for the first time Rusty is changing the login so Vinny would have remember that as well being a former DIK...
Everyone has access to everyone during a drug alcohool party.
becoming hazy after some pints / dudds makes it possible for snoopers to snoop.
Girls being wary of gettting hit on and led to chambers will stay sober and would snoop.
But those photos are not taken by a snooper. Two of them are selfies, and the last one was taken by a person that was into the storage room with Arieth, Jakob and Derek, not snooping from a door slit or something. Or maybe was taken by a security camera in the ceiling of the room, although I don´t know why should be a security camera in a empty storage room...
There are a lot of vids of people doing stuff they are not supposed to.
Someone used to snooping will tell ya: you just have ta know everything.
The pics are a collection .. if the guys know eachother, they might have shared
them to eachother over the course of several parties.
Playing with your phone .. or what you believe to be your phone
when in some surrealistic state ... those guys maybe thought it had been some orgy,
godd riddance the girls found no traces of any of that.
Day dreaming while intoxicated is a real thing, you know!
I think you got it right. Vinny and Nick are into it, pretty sure. Nick was still "searching" in the library after the laptop was found there is just too suspicious. Also the person who is lurking around the mansion (the infamous bedroomscene where the light gets blocked) could very well be Vinny.
Nicks room not being trashed makes me thinking that Vinny is in it. Maybe working together with the Alphas perhaps even their new dealer since they stopped doing business with Quinn.
Vinny is going to be a real pain in the ass in the upcoming episodes.
***edit*** And.... for the first time Rusty is changing the login so Vinny would have remember that as well being a former DIK...
It makes sense. Vinnie wants revenge over the DIKs because they kicked him out, and he knows well the mansion and were to find the laptop. So, he stoles it during the party and goes to his old room because he knows nobody goes there. He send Cathy´s cluck (we don´t know how he get´s Cathy´s photo in a women´s changing room) and uses the other files to hurt as much as possible the DIKs, sending the photos of Arieth to Dawe to antagonize both groups (Alphas and DIKs) with each other even more .
Also makes sense that it is him and his pals the ones that wreck the mansion (after all, he wrecked his own room, so he enjoys by doing that) and write "alphas" in the walls to mislead the DIKs, but respects the room of his friend Nick. It´s not necessary that Nick knows that. If he has an accomplice into the DIKs that gives him information, I bet is Jamie. His greenhouse is not wrecked too (probably that greenhouse is more important for him than his own room), and there are clues in some of the dialogues that suggest that he could have regrets. Maybe Vinnie is somehow blackmailing or threatening Jaime?
But we still don´t know how he knows Chad´s secret, and also, we don´t know how Burke gets the video of Jade and the MC. Vinnie can´t send it to him, since that scene haven´t happened when the laptop is stolen.
