Yellow Pheaver

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You're probably using what ever software comes default with Windows (probably Winzip I think?), which is almost never better than what else is out there. Windows like to do that, bundling crap software you either don't need or someone's done better.

Now, something else that comes to mind if this continues even with 7zip is try actually opening the file with 7zip and directly extracting to same location from the 7zip manager. In the past I've ran into issues where sometimes a compressed file would fail to extract when using the 7zip "extract here" option from Window's right click drop down but worked fine opening it from 7zip first. Hope this helps.
ok well downloaded 7zip and it extracted perfectly fine no issues
 

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Latest development update:

TLDR: Will drop by the end of April. Will contain new clothing, cosmetics, sidequests, fishing, spellcasting, slavery mechanics and a "highlight nearby enemies, treasure and quests" button.

Dynamic sex system 2.0 + sex toy support will be added in the update after that.

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PSA: It has taken much longer than planned between updates due, in no small part, to my unscheduled surgery in January. As such we're going to release the update to all game access tiers simultaneously. That said we don't want to penalise our Ascended+ supporters, so there will be a chunk of exclusive content for Ascended+. This content is in addition to what's detailed below

The Ascended+ content includes;
  • New Genitals (vote over in the Ascended+ section of Discord)
  • New Outfits (chosen by poll in the Ascended+ section of Discord)
  • More (I'd rather under-promise and over-deliver, I trust you'll enjoy it)
This content will remain exclusive to Ascended+ Patrons for at least a month.

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Hey Everyone!

This is the second time I've written this post as Patreon decided to eat it when I first hit publish. You know what they say; if a job is worth doing then it's worth doing twice.

We've been working hard on the next update and honestly we've allowed perfecting content to get in the way of keeping you all up to date with what we've been doing on and what content you can expect imminently.

I had planned this as a single blog, but it's just too long. For this post I'll just deal with the next update, then I can touch upon what's coming down the pipe in a separate post. So here's what you can expect in the next update, which we're planning to come out by the end of April at the latest.

New Equipment / Cosmetics
Given that we're introducing so many new NPCs in the next update we've added multiple new clothing options to help flesh out the world and avoid things becoming too repetitive.

Some existing cosmetics have been updated for use by players. The Bloodseeker equipment is now usable for players and features a male variant.

Both of the Centaur Helmets are also now usable items, bringing the armour of Lybos into play for the first time.

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We've also been careful to ensure that there are lots of subtypes of faction-specific clothing. That means you shouldn't find too many Anubites wearing the exact same version of the exact same dress. Whilst many will have similar outfits, minor details will vary to keep from a "clone army" appearance.

The image below is a bit like a "spot the difference", but each of these identical Felian ladies has a slightly different outfit;

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The new clothing will allow us to make characters more distinct from each other, especially key romance or quest NPCs potentially having unique clothing variants to help them stand out at a glance (as well as to help build the environmental storytelling around the character). It should be more intuitive who someone is from their appearance alone.

These dresses are the first phase and they'll have some complementary components for the other slots which will help to make the NPCs ever more diverse.

Main Story Update - Amara & Sorcery
We felt that where the main story currently leaves players is a bit confusing as it's missing the transition to the next phase of the game. As such we've added in a crucial story NPC - Amara. Amara is a mysterious white Jackal who will unlock not only Character Customization but also the arcane arts, namely sorcery.

Magic in CI has been teased for a while and in the next update you'll get to play it for the first time (technically the second if you figured out how to access the test fireball). This first set of abilities allows you to wield the unstable magics of the void to destroy your enemies, though there are numerous other abilities already in development.

Quality of Life Improvements
  • Shade Sight
    • Tap into the power of Kethra's echo and use the eyes of the void to view the world to better find enemies, treasure and quest locations.
  • Essence drops added to enemies
    • Essence is a crucial resource for Customization, Sorcery and more to come. Rather than limit player to only gaining essence from Bosses, Quests, and Kethra's Gifts, we've added small amounts of essence to most enemy types. Those beings with a stronger tether to the void, the original source of magic, will drop more essence than mundane enemies.
  • Levelling
    • Based on player feedback we've removed the campfire requirement for levelling. You can now level up at any time via the Character Menu.
New Faction - The Gilded Fold (Slavers)
Coming along with a map expansion and the slavery mechanics, the Gilded fold are the next faction to step into the growing world of Sabu. These followers of the demigoddess Anashai control slavery in Sabu, subject to the necessary bribes (and free samples) for the Merchant's Guild.

Players will get their first look at the walled-gardens of these flesh-traders, hinting at the questline to come. Initially you'll be able to sell slaves to the Gilded Fold, eventually gaining enough reputation to make use of their cages and chains to obtain slaves of your own.

The initial slavery tutorial quest will be part of the update, with the rest of the chain arriving after DSS 2.0 (for reasons that are fairly easy to imagine).

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Side Quest - Pleasure Villa
Safiya and her Harem of lusty handmaidens have been having a dispute with the local Anubites at the nearby Temple ruins. Helping to resolve the dispute will enable players to make use of her villa and the services on offer.

Side Quest - No Rest for the Wicked (Revamped)
Mesahtnofret and her doomed village are making a comeback in UE5. Help her bring a cure to the worsening curse with a new Dungeon, enemies, NPCs, and rewards.

Side Quest - Depths of Kab'Alrah
Near to Shipwright's Encampment (home to Alkippe, Khyras and Iva) Tomb Robbers have been hard at work exploring an ancient ruin. Delve into the forgotten hallways of this tomb and take their ill-gotten treasures for your own. But beware, these dark caverns are not without dangers of their own.

Side Quest - New Point of Interest NPCs:
  • A hermitess with a mysterious past living in self-imposed exile.
  • An aging warrior that seeks a fitting end.
Worldbuilding - New Enemies
The "Beasts of Sobek" have been sorely missed in Sabu since the move to UE5 and they're making a comeback with a vengeance. The name shifted over time and these creatures are known by the locals as "Subaq" (sue-back). A single large eye adorns their head and, in some large specimens, will have the ability to mesmerise potential prey.

Only the common, smaller Subaq (pictured) will drop in this coming update, but larger specimens with more developed abilities won't be far behind.

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Worldbuilding - Fishing Mechanics
You're not going to win the heart of a lusty fisherman without proving you can haul in a catch yourself. Well, Moswen is actually fairly easy to please so you probably can. Either way we wanted to broaden the interaction with the world and we've done that with the inclusion of fishing spots.

Once discovered these locations will appear on your map and can be used to catch various fish, with each spot being better for a different type. Currently only Glimmerfin Snapper and Sandscale Minnow are available, but there are numerous others in progress.

Fish are a commodity and can be sold, but once cooking drops (in a post-DSS 2.0 update) they will be used in crafting a variety of dishes. These aren't just for flavour (pun intended) but will give various gameplay benefits.

UI Updates
As we've been updating the Sorcery UI, we've gone back and updated the visuals of the Inventory and Character screen.

We've also added new UI elements for the new "world events", including reward popups to better detail what your efforts have achieved.

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Ongoing Development
There will be another post detailing exactly what we're doing for the update after April, i.e. Dynamic Sex System 2.0. To keep it simple, whilst giving at least some insight, here's a brief summary;

Freecam and Lovense enabled. Scene progression from initial foreplay to getting it on. Support for everything from erotic bathing and oiled massage to full-frontal snogging and bed-breaking romps.
 

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Worldbuilding - Fishing Mechanics
You're not going to win the heart of a lusty fisherman without proving you can haul in a catch yourself. Well, Moswen is actually fairly easy to please so you probably can. Either way we wanted to broaden the interaction with the world and we've done that with the inclusion of fishing spots.
LOL fuck yeah, this is the real content I've been waiting for. Fishing mechanics in lewd games is like some of the most niche shit imaginable and I love it. Give me a fishing wife (or a fish wife) and I'm set.
 

mancuskaj

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LOL fuck yeah, this is the real content I've been waiting for. Fishing mechanics in lewd games is like some of the most niche shit imaginable and I love it. Give me a fishing wife (or a fish wife) and I'm set.
Instead of fisting mechanics they add this generic bullcrap. Really feels like the devs want to be real boys making a real AAA game, pathetic.
 
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JustAl

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Instead of fisting mechanics they add this generic bullcrap. Really feels like the devs want to be real boys making a real AAA game, pathetic.
They're selling Carnal Instinct on Steam and Patreon, so it's a step away from AAA but if you're trying to make your game feel different from a mere scene gallery you can find on a porn booru site, you add game features. Including fishing.

As for whether or not fishing is a value add, I simply let people enjoy what they enjoy. Rarely in my gaming time in MMO-like games, a person would say publicly they enjoy fishing. I've never quite understood since I perceive fishing to be boring enough that even avid fishers would be bored waiting for a bite, but I then understand some people enjoy the slow peace in a way I personally can't perceive and I respect people enough to let them enjoy their harmless fun.

Fishing is fine. It's not for us but see how it appeals to people and let them have it. There may be meta-game awards to get from fishing for us who don't care enough to enjoy it otherwise, and it's not like fishing would suddenly dominate the game.
 

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They're selling Carnal Instinct on Steam and Patreon, so it's a step away from AAA but if you're trying to make your game feel different from a mere scene gallery you can find on a porn booru site, you add game features. Including fishing.

As for whether or not fishing is a value add, I simply let people enjoy what they enjoy. Rarely in my gaming time in MMO-like games, a person would say publicly they enjoy fishing. I've never quite understood since I perceive fishing to be boring enough that even avid fishers would be bored waiting for a bite, but I then understand some people enjoy the slow peace in a way I personally can't perceive and I respect people enough to let them enjoy their harmless fun.

Fishing is fine. It's not for us but see how it appeals to people and let them have it. There may be meta-game awards to get from fishing for us who don't care enough to enjoy it otherwise, and it's not like fishing would suddenly dominate the game.
Part of the issue with fishing as added by most games is that it's just a time filler. Rarely is it implemented in a way there is a reason to fish for the sake of fishing. Aside from games specifically built around it (the old bass tournament arcade games come to mind), it's basically just a few old one-offs like the fishing in Ocarina of Time. I doubt Team Carnal is going to go to that level of detail, but they might at least make it somewhat interesting and/or make it worthwhile by rewarding you in other ways.
 

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Part of the issue with fishing as added by most games is that it's just a time filler [...] worthwhile by rewarding you in other ways.
This reminds me of those times people did say they liked fishing. I mentioned it in my previous post but I remembered why they liked fishing in that context: it was all about the economy of the MMO, mostly for gaming the auction board but also for clearing hard dungeon bosses, which was the reason why it sold on the auction board in the first place.

Carnal Instinct is an easy game and it's not like we're going to see multiplayer support, anti-cheat, raids, or any kind of MMO aspect, but for games where people liked fishing, it had much to do with A) getting equipment parts to make into good equipment, B) an easy way to get money, or C) temporary stat-boosters (ingredients to make meals or potions) to make the game easier for a moment. In MMOs (C) was a big deal because of level caps and hard team-oriented boss battles.

I don't doubt that there will be rewards, it's kind of the status quo for what fishing really means in these games.
 

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Hey actual meaningful fishing mechanic discussion, nice. They do mention directly in that devlog that the fish will be sellable as well as used in cooking whenever that drops, which will give you "various gameplay benefits." I'm just spewing ideas but I could see it as a means for unlocking specific aquatic body morph parts maybe, and potentially fishing up treasure from a fishing loot table. Will it actually go that far? Probably not, but I wouldn't mind if it did. At the very least I can see some quests centered around it.

I'm a guy with near 200 hours in a fishing game on steam and I like to fish IRL, so I think it's safe to say I actually can enjoy it when it's done right. And even when it's not I think harmless fun is a good way to describe it. I would honestly be incredibly surprised if the fishing had any actual complexity to it, but even if it was something like Stardew I'd be alright with it. Although I think it would be really funny if the fishing stuff does end up being super in-depth.
 

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That's great to hear MidnightKing! Along with selling and cooking, I can elaborate on the equipment crafting part. The most direct way I've seen fish turned into equipment was in the MMO-like co-op MOBA Warframe, where fish of flesh are processed into their guts, glands, oils, bones, and such along with sci-fi logic to produce weaponry of partial biological origin that was no only effective enough for endgame based on part and module parameters but there was a kind of experience point system applied to the weapons that let them be sold back to the related weapon part and schematic vendor for profit in faction points. There were also "fish" of machinery swimming in a terraformed planet's "coolant sea", built by a typical long-lost race of space geniuses in a typical Romanesque collapsed society. Robo-fish were even more relatedly turned into weaponry.

MMOs of Asian mythology style tend to turn fish into essence or oil that are somehow important in producing strong magical weapons. I suppose this approach is more relatable to Carnal Instinct. Expand upon this idea further and we can get a system much like Red Dead Redemption 2's legendary creatures hunting and crafting, forming useful equipment from seemingly ordinary animals. Beasts like the Kravenrook could make interesting equipment.

An afterthought: furries wearing fur clothing is something that seems ironic. Scalies wearing scales and humans wearing skin feels yet more morbid. I wouldn't mind seeing more clothing variety from such a system. What we have is good for an early build but the variety feels too narrow after a couple of early alpha speedrun trials.
 

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They're selling Carnal Instinct on Steam and Patreon, so it's a step away from AAA but if you're trying to make your game feel different from a mere scene gallery you can find on a porn booru site, you add game features. [...]
Yeah, game features like fisting mechanics. No game in existence (except if you want to waste three years in VAM?) has dynamic, non-preanimated fisting, that would actually be a valuable mechanic. I don't want gallery scenes, I want gameplay sex. I want to roll for anal circumference lmao. How hard is that to understand. There hasn't been a game since SuperDeepthroat that had good sex gameplay. And instead of doing anything remotely like that, the devs seem to have their sights set on making a SURVIVAL CRAFTING RPG #385653
 

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Yeah, game features like fisting mechanics. No game in existence (except if you want to waste three years in VAM?) has dynamic, non-preanimated fisting, that would actually be a valuable mechanic. I don't want gallery scenes, I want gameplay sex. I want to roll for anal circumference lmao. How hard is that to understand. There hasn't been a game since SuperDeepthroat that had good sex gameplay. And instead of doing anything remotely like that, the devs seem to have their sights set on making a SURVIVAL CRAFTING RPG #385653
Hold on, let's rewind. The moment you mention "SuperDeepthroat" as a game for good sex gameplay I understand your frame of reference is super dated, like from over a decade ago during the Macromedia Flash Game era. So hold that thought and answer for yourself the following: when you played SDT, did you have fun A) customizing the girl and boy, B) Playing with the dialogue system to trigger emotion and action changes, or C) modding the game with custom SWF content for diverse shapes and backgrounds?

Regardless of your answer, you're looking for a gallery game. Games like Honey Select 2 and its studio hold your answer. If you want to design characters with mild choices in personality and sex properties, Koikatsu focuses on personality just a touch but it's way more than HS2. If you don't mind a lack of voice acting but want the potential to create weirdly behaving NPCs with nuance, try Artificial Academy 2.

Now that we're past that: Carnal Instinct is like Skyrim but without mods but with the logic of porn mods fitted into the story from the base foundation. In exchange for mod support and sex everywhere you get erotic storytelling from the foundation for a cleaner though dryer experience. This game won't hold much of what you want besides that one island that's all sex all the time. Sorry, with this game you're out of luck.

Try Karryn's Prison though, you'll find plenty of sex everywhere, gameplay is good from the start, and a certain overhaul does more with edicts and progression for yet more gameplay. If you want less game and more sex, try Unaware in the City. And for good combat and literal fisting mechanics, try Pain Re:In.

Maybe I can come back to edit my post with links, but for now please use the forum search function.
 
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mancuskaj

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Hold on, let's rewind. The moment you mention "SuperDeepthroat" as a game for good sex gameplay I understand your frame of reference is super dated, like from over a decade ago during the Macromedia Flash Game era. So hold that thought and answer for yourself the following: when you played SDT, did you have fun A) customizing the girl and boy, B) Playing with the dialogue system to trigger emotion and action changes, or C) modding the game with custom SWF content for diverse shapes and backgrounds?
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No, I had fun stretching out her throat with a giantic schlong, which took time because the game simulated the throat barrier and she made wonderful noises and sometimes passed out because she ran out of actually simulated breath. My "frame of reference" is "super dated" because no good game since then even attempted anything like that AFAICT, all focusing on character designs and personalities and running around punching things and having to lose on purpose to get raped with a preanimated scene.
re:recommendations (thanks for taking time to think about them, even though I am trashing them):
Karryn's Prison - awful art and pre-drawn animations, are there even animations? Was off-put by the art to even try it out honestly, sorry.
Unaware in the City - looks interesting if really janky, will check out. But it's still just an old-concept sprite game, no progress.
Pain Re:In - will check out even if ryona is not my thing, and the main gameplay mechanic still looks to be running around punching things but yeah thanks.

And yeah, I do have modded Skyrim but again, it's just a gallery on top of running around punching things mostly and really janky besides. There might be some good mods I'm not utilizing properly because can't be bothered anymore (f.e. SLEN seems like a good concept but there doesn't seem to be a manual for it anywhere!! I'm just running around romancing tons of NPCs totally clueless as to how to progress!) If I have to rebuild the animation cache for two hours one more time...
 
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No, I had fun stretching out her throat with a giantic schlong, which took time because the game simulated the throat barrier and she made wonderful noises and sometimes passed out because she ran out of actually simulated breath. [...]
Okay, now you're being more direct. Unfortunately I won't help you despite the possibility I could for the following reason:
Very rarely over the years I do bump into some simulator games for sex. They were most often encountered in Macromedia Flash even in fairly recent years. However I don't feel comfortable recommending them, because from my memory something seemed off about them. Particularly extreme ryona seems to feature that stuff, and while not what I enjoy I could tolerate it. However one particular such game felt awful due to being the most graphic depiction of [redacted] I've ever seen in a game, and I felt so dirty after playing I immediately deleted it.

So yeah. For your tastes I recommend hitting up Pixiv, translating to English, and finding games with the ryona tag tha's about interacting with a girl you have sex with. Ryona fetish games simulate the body fairly frequently because the point of the violence and gore is the interaction with the body. And for that one game topic I redacted, certain personal relationships. I personally don't enjoy those.

As they say, normal gamers and simulator gamers are very different kinds of gamers. Find a sex simulator. Those are rare and not really the kind of "game" that "gamers" like the play. Hence simulators and games being very different though having community overlap.

For a more normal game experience with pseudo-simulation aspects, there's lots of stuff out there. If you like weirdly accurate behavior in bewilderingly flat 2D, try Dwarf Fortress or Rimworld.
 
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So we mostly agree that there really isn't a good game that does interactive simulated sex like that. And somebody should make one, not a full simulation though because those are fiddly. SDT really was the peak, enough simulation to be interesting and engaging but not gigantic learning cliff. That's why I'm in this Carnal instinct thread, that dynamic sex minigame they have (or, had, sadly) seems like a move in the right direction to me.
And as I said, ryona is not really my thing, I do have a huge fetish for big cocks struggling to fit into tight holes and actually succeeding with patience and practice and hentai logic stretchiness, but without blood and tearing, that's bad. Though those bits you censored made me curious, if you could PM details please (it will bug me otherwise).

Haha I spent some time with RimJobWorld, but it's just sprites and text sadly, though very hot.
 
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So we mostly agree that there really isn't a good game that does interactive simulated sex like that. And somebody should make one, not a full simulation though because those are fiddly. SDT really was the peak, enough simulation to be interesting and engaging but not gigantic learning cliff. That's why I'm in this Carnal instinct thread, that dynamic sex minigame they have (or, had, sadly) seems like a move in the right direction to me.
And as I said, ryona is not really my thing, I do have a huge fetish for big cocks struggling to fit into tight holes and actually succeeding with patience and practice and hentai logic stretchiness, but without blood and tearing, that's bad. Though those bits you censored made me curious, if you could PM details please (it will bug me otherwise).

Haha I spent some time with RimJobWorld, but it's just sprites and text sadly, though very hot.
May not have as much depth as SDT, but if you want some gameplay sex I can recommend Factorial Omega
 

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So we mostly agree that there really isn't a good game that does interactive simulated sex like that. And somebody should make one, not a full simulation though because those are fiddly. SDT really was the peak, enough simulation to be interesting and engaging but not gigantic learning cliff. That's why I'm in this Carnal instinct thread, that dynamic sex minigame they have (or, had, sadly) seems like a move in the right direction to me.
And as I said, ryona is not really my thing, I do have a huge fetish for big cocks struggling to fit into tight holes and actually succeeding with patience and practice and hentai logic stretchiness, but without blood and tearing, that's bad. Though those bits you censored made me curious, if you could PM details please (it will bug me otherwise).

Haha I spent some time with RimJobWorld, but it's just sprites and text sadly, though very hot.
The closest game I'm aware of that lets you toy with and stretch characters dynamically is Hotel Elera, but that still has prefab positions.
 

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some nonsense, downloaded the latest version, and there is almost no content. Three cripples and a pleasure island. Two years ago I downloaded there was a lot of content. Especially remember the moment with the snake on the dock. Now there's nothing. This is bullshit.
 
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