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Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

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Riolol said:
It is something most of us assumed about Io and before anyone says Nodoka doesn't know what we know, I'd say that book of hers implies otherwise.
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Again, only works because the story has set her up to be nearly omniscient. But ofc it's hard to justify so they give some super shitty "logic" to show how Nodoka arrived at that conclusion.

Just all around bad writing and the dialogue especially at that part is really stupid.
 
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ratmanirl said:
Again, only works because the story has set her up to be nearly omniscient. But ofc it's hard to justify so they give some super shitty "logic" to show how Nodoka arrived at that conclusion.

Just all around bad writing and the dialogue especially at that part is really stupid.
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Depending on how it goes, Nodoka's blackmail of Yumi will fail. She also doesn't seem to anticipate Futaba's reaction to what she does if I recall correctly. I think there is a level of omniscience in relation to the quiz, but that's more for laughs than anything. Story-wise I think Nodoka can be wrong a lot of the times, especially in relation to people's reactions, she just doesn't really care.

Even the book is a good example, it was never about getting everything right, just for it to be similar enough that her objective is accomplished. I would assume the same thing is true in Io's case, she just took a shot to what would be the most fucked up possibility that would explain her behavior. Even if she missed, some damage would be done. There is something that she says about not revealing sexual assault without a reason or something just before though, I can't recall for sure - so I'm curious about that part.
 
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Nadekai said:
Also, why is Chika stealing Uta now :mad:
I want to scratch her chin, I feel like I am getting cucked by my very own "girlfriend"
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Hard to say Chika is cucking Akira when she's actively pursuing people to get into a threesome with him.
 
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Chapter 3 just feels like I am high on drugs truth be told. :oops:

Can I just get help understand what the fuck happened in the ending of chapter 3?
 
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Moonflare said:
Depending on how it goes, Nodoka's blackmail of Yumi will fail. She also doesn't seem to anticipate Futaba's reaction to what she does if I recall correctly. I think there is a level of omniscience in relation to the quiz, but that's more for laughs than anything. Story-wise I think Nodoka can be wrong a lot of the times, especially in relation to people's reactions, she just doesn't really care.

Even the book is a good example, it was never about getting everything right, just for it to be similar enough that her objective is accomplished. I would assume the same thing is true in Io's case, she just took a shot to what would be the most fucked up possibility that would explain her behavior. Even if she missed, some damage would be done. There is something that she says about not revealing sexual assault without a reason or something just before though, I can't recall for sure - so I'm curious about that part.
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I mean, it's the same thing with Futaba. She literally doesn't have a point most of the time, just that either no one calls her out on it or she's somehow right. Which ruins my immersion because it's like the world is set up to make us take her seriously even though, without the setting, she would be a total retard.

Like with Futaba, they point out that it's really easy to tell that it's her and then the conversation just ignores it? And with Io, her explanation of "she doesn't have good relationship with women therefore she must have been raped" isn't complete stupidity because somehow it's true. Again, no one would take Nodoka seriously if the world didn't just magically allow her to be unquestioned and correct whenever it needs her to be so she can seem smart.
 
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Nadekai said:
Chapter 3 just feels like I am high on drugs truth be told. :oops:

Can I just get help understand what the fuck happened in the ending of chapter 3?
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The ending of chapter 3 is where I struggled too - I really don't get all of it as it's just a mind fuck and that reset sequence was AWFUL (IMO) but it basically looks like in the end, Maya caved and the illusion of Sana turned into the legitimate fuck fest of Maya + Akira. Which then lead to the genuine reality that is Maya Prime being lost for the moment, which broke Akira in a way that then flipped Ami into ultra fucked kidnapper mode.
 
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ratmanirl said:
I mean, it's the same thing with Futaba. She literally doesn't have a point most of the time, just that either no one calls her out on it or she's somehow right. Which ruins my immersion because it's like the world is set up to make us take her seriously even though, without the setting, she would be a total retard.

Like with Futaba, they point out that it's really easy to tell that it's her and then the conversation just ignores it? And with Io, her explanation of "she doesn't have good relationship with women therefore she must have been raped" isn't complete stupidity because somehow it's true. Again, no one would take Nodoka seriously if the world didn't just magically allow her to be unquestioned and correct whenever it needs her to be so she can seem smart.
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I have to agree that a lot of the events are convoluted in general. These people are all teenage girls that live together, there's absolutely no way Akira would have survived a single week without everyone being aware of a LOT more than what they are in years.

That's just something we have to ignore for the sake of plot I guess (or maybe the dorms really don't exist when we're not looking at them).
 
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TheSeedy1 said:
The ending of chapter 3 is where I struggled too - I really don't get all of it as it's just a mind fuck and that reset sequence was AWFUL (IMO) but it basically looks like in the end, Maya caved and the illusion of Sana turned into the legitimate fuck fest of Maya + Akira. Which then lead to the genuine reality that is Maya Prime being lost for the moment, which broke Akira in a way that then flipped Ami into ultra fucked kidnapper mode.
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Well, I was unsure whether Sel was high when writing some of the game, but this time... this time I am absolutely sure.
 
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ratmanirl said:
I mean, it's the same thing with Futaba. She literally doesn't have a point most of the time, just that either no one calls her out on it or she's somehow right. Which ruins my immersion because it's like the world is set up to make us take her seriously even though, without the setting, she would be a total retard.

Like with Futaba, they point out that it's really easy to tell that it's her and then the conversation just ignores it? And with Io, her explanation of "she doesn't have good relationship with women therefore she must have been raped" isn't complete stupidity because somehow it's true. Again, no one would take Nodoka seriously if the world didn't just magically allow her to be unquestioned and correct whenever it needs her to be so she can seem smart.
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I was going to say there is probably some supernatural reason like her being under the influence of our of the gods or Sekai (which has kinda been implied by the manic state she gets in when she has writer's block) but even as I type it out it feels like a cop-out. I just don't buy it being down to her being a Sherlock Holmes level deducer so that leaves me with the cop-out, goddammit Sel.
 
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