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Josus Joestar

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Actually, one of the factors that contribute to the model's aging appearance is what we call the "Naso-labial fold" or the skinfold from the nose to the corner of the lips, which is present in the first pictures. Some darker colour make-up also plays a role here.

If I will use some examples that I can think of are the early renders of some BADIK characters, IIRC when they smile the said folds are prevalent and deep which I feel overall contradicts the age of those characters. Fortunately, these have been fixed on the later eps.
 

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Hey everyone! Hubby Bunny here. We know it’s been a long time since we’ve posted a DevLog and apart from an occasional image post at , it pretty much was radio silence. As some of you might know, I was away for military service during August and came back with a nasty flu. As if it wasn’t enough, I’ve managed to get Wifey Bunny sick too. We’ve been trying to get back on our feet with regular hospital visits, tons of medication and sleeping. Still not %100 there but we believe we’ve recovered enough to get back into action and pick up the development where we left.
Welcome back, I'm glad to hear that you are both okay (or, at least, almost fully recovered). Here's hoping to a full recovery very soon!

The first reworked character you're about to meet is our beloved naughty blonde and main character, Jennifer Green (Jennie). Yes, I admit that it is a drastic change, however the result has finally satisfied the bunny team. I would love to give you a brief(!) list of changes, heheh:
  • Head and face: Well, at first I wasn't planning on making such a huge change on her face because we kinda liked the vibes she was giving off. Childish, mischievous, shameless yet could be an innocent cutie if she wants. However, the more I look at it, the more it became toonish style to my eye. So I thought maybe I should create everything about her from the start, all over again. Now her face is more lifelike, I mean has more realism into it, yet not that much dialed in terms of detailing and shape. To me, she still keeps that childish and soft look, but you can feel that she's not "that" innocent.
  • Hairstyle: Although I'm in love with OOT's hair meshes, using their assets significantly slows our workflow down. Not only for that reason, but also her new face now lets her wear a messier bun, hereby leading to have a more modern and sporty finish.

  • Body: Now less voluptuous but the juicy parts didn't dry out. From neck to toe, she now has more details; e.g. collarbones, shoulders, chest area, arms, veins, hands, abdomen, pelvis, legs, knee bones, feet... Everything now is designed with more meticulous effort. One of the main issues that gave rise to those changes is, not being able to pose the character without weird collisions and awfully stretched UVs (even with bend controllers, shape enhancers, etc). That "thicc" anatomy was restricting us to pose her in many complex ways. Toning that thickness down has finally given us the freedom, hopefully.

  • Skin: After a long research, we finally found the best one suits our blondie. She now has freckles, yaaay! (Coral will be surprised hehehe) Again, our pursuit was to create a better look under every lighting rig. Bump maps, normal maps, SSS settings and every other aspects on the skin are all optimized now.
Yes, these are the major changes related to the rework. Most probably this is the final version, yet there could be tiny minor fixes since we couldn't have the chance to try it in all of the possible occasions. I don't think there would be anything can affect the overall look from now on.
She's still gorgeous, if anything I find she looks younger now, maybe it's the hair? Also, she now looks, stylistically at least, closer to the other characters, and I agree with lanxorn regarding Jenni's breasts, they definitely look more natural for the reworked Jenni.

All four renders are lovely, but I am going to (only ever so slightly) disagree about the best pic, for me it's this one...



...I love that's it's a bit playful, a bit mischievious, oh, and I think the use of "gravity" (the necklace and hair... wait, you thought I meant her b...) is a little more evident here than in the other pic, which, along with the greater DOF, really makes this render pop!

I also have mixed feelings about the rework of the "Ginger Devil", but I trust that she will look amazing as always, though don't you dare change Xerrin and her "2 huge, squishy pillows"! Well, not too much anyway ;)
 

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Welcome back, I'm glad to hear that you are both okay (or, at least, almost fully recovered). Here's hoping to a full recovery very soon!
Thank you so much! Hubby bunny is now very well recovered and I am finally feeling much much better :3 Thanks again :3

She's still gorgeous, if anything I find she looks younger now, maybe it's the hair? Also, she now looks, stylistically at least, closer to the other characters, and I agree with lanxorn regarding Jenni's breasts, they definitely look more natural for the reworked Jenni.
If I were to define my/our artistic vision regarding to Jennie's new hair, I would say that the low bun + messy style + more volume to it equals to be highlighting the "cool but not a simple bitch" vibes. In addition, her face still looks "young" yet the "immature" look in her previous face is gone now, which is a thing we wanted to portray in her character.

All four renders are lovely, but I am going to (only ever so slightly) disagree about the best pic, for me it's this one...



...I love that's it's a bit playful, a bit mischievious, oh, and I think the use of "gravity" (the necklace and hair... wait, you thought I meant her b...) is a little more evident here than in the other pic, which, along with the greater DOF, really makes this render pop!
If the render's coming out of my hubby bunny's lovely hands, every single piece is beautiful and priceless :3 (romantic wifey bunny's on duty nihahahha) Thank you for your precious critique about it! It gives us indescribable feelings when we see such beautiful and detailed comments about our work!

I also have mixed feelings about the rework of the "Ginger Devil", but I trust that she will look amazing as always, though don't you dare change Xerrin and her "2 huge, squishy pillows"! Well, not too much anyway ;)
OMG I'm honored to see that you guys still remember Xerrin and her "huge and squishy pillows"! Whoa I don't know what to say just got a huuge smile on my face! Thank you <3
Btw, don't ever worry, neither our ginger devil nor her bestie mama will be "downgraded" in any ways, just gonna be "optimized" and hopefully the results will satisfy everyone!
 
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Vera is here with some news everyone!

Vera:
Hey everyone! Vera the Vertex Bunny is finally here. I've been neglecting my duties as the face of Vertex Bunny since god knows when but I've been working behind the scenes. My work finally pays off. Here is our new discord community channel. Hoping to see you all . Fair warning though, it still is in its early states so much will change and become more beautiful as the time passes.

Ones that are following us since day 1. We didn't forget you either. For a limited time, everyone joining the discord will have a special Early Bunny rank.

Currently, ranks doesn't have much differences but in the future, there will be tons of benefits with events, releases, announcements and such.

Again, thank you so much for your support everyone, however it may be. Hoping to drop more stuff soon.

Vera out.
<3

PS: Uncropped version of my selfie here can be found in our discord server. You might wanna check that out too...
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Vera is here with some news everyone!

Vera:
Hey everyone! Vera the Vertex Bunny is finally here. I've been neglecting my duties as the face of Vertex Bunny since god knows when but I've been working behind the scenes. My work finally pays off. Here is our new discord community channel. Hoping to see you all . Fair warning though, it still is in its early states so much will change and become more beautiful as the time passes.

Ones that are following us since day 1. We didn't forget you either. For a limited time, everyone joining the discord will have a special Early Bunny rank.

Currently, ranks doesn't have much differences but in the future, there will be tons of benefits with events, releases, announcements and such.

Again, thank you so much for your support everyone, however it may be. Hoping to drop more stuff soon.

Vera out.
<3

PS: Uncropped version of my selfie here can be found in our discord server. You might wanna check that out too...
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Hello Vera! Nice workspace.
I hope the smoke is not from the PC :ROFLMAO:

Link has expired :(
 

Vertex Bunny

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Hey everyone! Hubby Bunny here. We're back with another rework post. This time it is our beloved Lithuanian, the one and only, Anastasiya Volkova. Annie for you all :D (Yeah, tad a bit of spoiler from the upcoming game. She has Lithuanian roots everyone)

With Annie and Jen out of the way, we are getting closer and closer to rapid production phase. You will of course be notified when that happens but for now, let's just say something good is happening. Stay tuned. I'll keep mine short this time and give the mic to my Wifey Bunny for the details of Annie's rework:

Heyyo minnaa! Been a time since I last appeared here. Was working behind the scenes for what you're gonna witness from now on! And yessss...

Here's our second character rework: Anastasiya Volkova (Annie). Once again, I tried to bring Annie to the bunny family's vision about the rework of our characters. Dialled down the toonishness (whoa is that a word?) and up the realism a bit more to optimize the overall shape and look.

  • Head and face: This is supposed to be a serious explanation about the current changes... Ah come on... Just look at THAT SMILE!!! ❤ She now has the "innocent and cheerful" look as she's supposed to do. At least much more innocent than our blondie Jennie now. I couldn't help myself but to give her bright blue eyes :3

  • Hairstyle: This short hairstyle (particularly this asset) was the one we originally wished to use on her, however somehow it didn't work with her previous face. Plus, the old hair asset has slightly less fidelity compared to the other girls' hair. Now she has a dynamic and fresh look as ever!

  • Body: Like in Jennifer's rework, our Annie's new body is now less voluptuous but the juicy parts didn't dry out. Annie's signature "twin assets" remain huge as always :3 Toned down the "thicc and bold" features and now she is more proportionate. This can be actually deduced as the "absolute value reduction" instead of the loss of relative proportions. From neck to toe, all of our reworks do and will include more details and meticulously craft.

  • Skin: Same skin texture is used as the previous one, with some tweaks on the maps and surface & material settings, to be able to get better results in distinct light rigs and setups.

And once again (somebody pls put a counter on it lol) most probably this is the final version, yet there could be tiny minor fixes since we couldn't have the chance to try it in all of the possible occasions. I don't think there would be anything can affect the overall look from now on (this part is copy-pasted from Jennifer's rework post, sorry, I am a bit lazy recently).

Hope you like our new Annie! The next one in the rework queue is our GINGER DEVILLLL!!!! Don't worry, don't ever worry, her precious lovers, she will definitely remain ginger, and devil, hehehe

Can't promise an ETA on that, however, I'm frequently posting the rework WIPs and ask for feedback on our Discord server!

Love you guys :3 Thank you for your support and being with us!

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PS: Hey! Vera here. Last I heard, Annie was going to a photoshoot for you guys. I would expect some sexy stuff from her real soon. ;)
 

Vertex Bunny

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Heyyo minnaaa! Wifey Bunny (Coral's Dream ) here! Our dear Vertex Bunny family, here we are with another DevLog of our character rework sessions! (Lazy wifey bunny finally completed it, terribly sorry for this delayed post)
Let's take a look at our ginger devil's new look

Don't wanna repeat myself in every rework descriptions, yet I could proudly say that Coral's new face and body now have a new level of balance and spiciness!

Head and face: We preferred a tiny bit "mature" look with her face. Starting with the cranium shape to the tip of her nose, I tried my best to give her much better ratios and style. As you see, she's still our lovely Coral but now has more defined features in many terms. Especially her new nose. I'm in love and can't take myself off of looking at!

Hairstyle: One of the hardest choices I've ever made in my life. I haven't planned to change its color at first, yet I've tried many many, maaany many styles and assets to find the best one suits her face. In the end, I decided to stick with the initial style. Moreover, Coral's most probably be the one having the most freedom in having different hairstyles depending on the occasion and my taste ^^ She's a very recognizable face, so my last decision in her hairstyle comprehends many hairstyles she can use time to time.

Body: I'm finally satisfied with the fact that I've rescued her from the painful lordosis she's been suffering from day 1. I know, she seems to get completely changed in body shape. However, her juicy parts remain the same, in fact, she now has a much more unique shape with some realistic details.

Skin: Same skin texture is used as the previous one, with some tweaks on the maps and surface & material settings, to be able to get better results in distinct light rigs and setups (nihihi copy-pasted this one from Annie's rework post, excuse this lazy lady please)

This is the final version, yet, as always there could be tiny minor fixes since we couldn't have the chance to try it in all of the possible occasions.

Hope you like the new look of our ginger devil!
I love you guys! Thank you for your support

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Geigi

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As usual with those games, huuuge titties everywhere. Mostly it looks caricaturally and not sexy.
Big breasts on female characters usually means that the game is made by a male developer. Based on the theme and looks of the fmc characters the target audience will be, again, straight male players which is disappointing.
 
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Big breasts on female characters usually means that the game is made by a male developer. Based on the theme and looks of the fmc characters the target audience will be, again, straight male players which is disappointing.
Hello hello! Thank you for your comment!

I am our ginger devil Coral's virtual mother, as well as the wifey bunny to Vertex Bunny !
As the designer and original creator of the characters and the visual contents of our works, I can proudly say that I am a bi mature woman who also loves big booty and curvy, voluptuous figured woman :)

These are what people called "tastes and colors". You know the rest.
The kind of assumptions you've unfortunately made also disappointed us :(

Ah, if you are not into women in the shape you've been seeing in our posts, don't worry, we have plenty more characters not only present but also incoming in various body shape and physical features!

Feel free to join our discord server and see what's going on:


And please, humbly consider reading all of the messages posted in this thread to better understand about us, the developers, and our target audience, before making any presumptions.
Thanks again :3
 
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Hello hello! Thank you for your comment!

I am our ginger devil Coral's virtual mother, as well as the wifey bunny to Vertex Bunny !
As the designer and original creator of the characters and the visual contents of our works, I can proudly say that I am a bi mature woman who also loves big booty and curvy, voluptuous figured woman :)

These are what people called "tastes and colors". You know the rest.
The kind of assumptions you've unfortunately made also disappointed us :(

Ah, if you are not into women in the shape you've been seeing in our posts, don't worry, we have plenty more characters not only present but also incoming in various body shape and physical features!

Feel free to join our discord server and see what's going on:


And please, humbly consider reading all of the messages posted in this thread to better understand about us, the developers, and our target audience, before making any presumptions.
Thanks again :3
OK, this post changed my perception, thank you for answering, I'll play the game when it's out.
 

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Heyyo minnaaa! Our dear Vertex Bunny family, here we are with another DevLog of our character rework sessions! (Lazy wifey bunny finally completed it, terribly sorry for this delayed post)
Let's take a look at our ginger devil's new look

Don't wanna repeat myself in every rework descriptions, yet I could proudly say that Coral's new face and body now have a new level of balance and spiciness!

Head and face: We preferred a tiny bit "mature" look with her face. Starting with the cranium shape to the tip of her nose, I tried my best to give her much better ratios and style. As you see, she's still our lovely Coral but now has more defined features in many terms. Especially her new nose. I'm in love and can't take myself off of looking at!

Hairstyle: One of the hardest choices I've ever made in my life. I haven't planned to change its color at first, yet I've tried many many, maaany many styles and assets to find the best one suits her face. In the end, I decided to stick with the initial style. Moreover, Coral's most probably be the one having the most freedom in having different hairstyles depending on the occasion and my taste ^^ She's a very recognizable face, so my last decision in her hairstyle comprehends many hairstyles she can use time to time.

Body: I'm finally satisfied with the fact that I've rescued her from the painful lordosis she's been suffering from day 1. I know, she seems to get completely changed in body shape. However, her juicy parts remain the same, in fact, she now has a much more unique shape with some realistic details.

Skin: Same skin texture is used as the previous one, with some tweaks on the maps and surface & material settings, to be able to get better results in distinct light rigs and setups (nihihi copy-pasted this one from Annie's rework post, excuse this lazy lady please)

This is the final version, yet, as always there could be tiny minor fixes since we couldn't have the chance to try it in all of the possible occasions.

Hope you like the new look of our ginger devil!
I love you guys! Thank you for your support

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I still stand by my opinion that the original ones were better, but of course it’s up to you to decide!
Do you have an approximate date for the first release?
 
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I still stand by my opinion that the original ones were better, but of course it’s up to you to decide!
Do you have an approximate date for the first release?
Awww I don't know even how to feel when I read "original ones better" :( That's a precious feedback that I respect too much, thank you. Yet, as you've stated, these changes reflect our intents of design in a more satisfactory way to us.

Our initial plan was to create and release a relatively short "Prologue" to show our audience about or MC Jennifer, before her adventures start in Marilyn's Mansion. However, we've come to a decision that it would be too short, bland and not comprehensive enough to make people get to know her better. Therefore, we've come up with an idea, which is an arcade game that includes Jen's prologue as a kinetic novel story along with many extra stuff such as exclusive galleries and contents. If everything goes according to plan, Steam Page of it will be up by the end of this month.
 

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Awww I don't know even how to feel when I read "original ones better" :(
I don’t know how to explain this because english is not my national language.

The "original models" were more "plump" and younger looking, the new ones are slimmer and look older, but again this is in my subjective opinion, i don't impose my opinion, i just share it!

I myself have my own opinion on 3d models, like an independent artist, which not everyone approves of either.
 
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I don’t know how to explain this because english is not my national language.

The "original models" were more "plump" and younger looking, the new ones are slimmer and look older, but again this is in my subjective opinion, i don't impose my opinion, i just share it!

I myself have my own opinion on 3d models, like an independent artist, which not everyone approves of either.
Oh love, thank you again for the explanation.
Frankly we're not native speakers as well, don't worry I've totally understood your points. Once again, thank you!

I tried my best to not deviate from their original voluptuous forms, yet after those months and even years, the more I look at my characters the more they've become "bulky" to me instead of sexy voluptuous (that's to me only most probably hehehe). Furthermore, as it's mentioned in our previous posts, it's become a real pain to pose them and make the clothes on them look natural. It was just enormously time-consuming. I had to optimize their shape either way.

I admit that they don't look "that" young any more. But still, I'm loving their new faces, nihihi :D
We'll see after a couple of promo shots maybe all of us will get used to their new era.

Thank you for your precious comments and feedback!
 

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I don’t know how to explain this because english is not my national language.

The "original models" were more "plump" and younger looking, the new ones are slimmer and look older, but again this is in my subjective opinion, i don't impose my opinion, i just share it!

I myself have my own opinion on 3d models, like an independent artist, which not everyone approves of either.
It is because the eyes appeared to be more sunken and also, while subtle the fullness of the cheeks in newer model is less than the previous one. Both of these can also create the illusion of more mature appearance.

Tldr; Her face got leaner so she looks older.