VN Ren'Py Completed Leap of Faith [Ch. 8 v1.0.3] [DriftyGames]

[txe320]

Hello here. I've finished the game and done 3 path (Cece + Steph + Lexi with Chris+Linda on every path). Obviously it's one of the best game here but nothing to add to this that hasn't been said here. I've also read a lot of comment here, the first ~200+ pages, mostly because i wanted to see some reaction after each new chapter release. I find it fun to read how people make theory about the game after playing a bit, when you know what would come but people who are writting a comment at a time when it wasn't possible.

They are still some thing i've not understand yet, like who is this guy with the binocular at the end of chapter 4? Is it Melvin, the fake husband of Steph? I've always welcomed Steph in Lexi's house in my 3 runs, so maybe it's why i've not the answer but i find it odd that they show you this guy and nothing was done with it. Did someone know who is it or what's the theory?

Yes, it's Melvin, the partner who worked with Steph. If you don't forgive Steph, you'll see her taking his place in all scenes we've seen him (like this one, and in the end when the MC's grandpa was arrested).

 

[Elhemeer]

Yes, it's Melvin, the partner who worked with Steph. If you don't forgive Steph, you'll see her taking his place in all scenes we've seen him (like this one, and in the end when the MC's grandpa was arrested).

Actually, in that case they're both there when you talk to the old man. And he's not getting arrested, they're his detail. He's already been collected and is in whatever program he's in.

 

[K.T.L.]

They are still some thing i've not understand yet, like who is this guy with the binocular at the end of chapter 4? Is it Melvin, the fake husband of Steph? I've always welcomed Steph in Lexi's house in my 3 runs, so maybe it's why i've not the answer but i find it odd that they show you this guy and nothing was done with it. Did someone know who is it or what's the theory?

I always assumed all the weirdo's were paparazzi keeping an eye on Lexi and the people she associated with. Never occurred to me to think about Steph's fake ex.

 

[Eldiran]

Yes, it's Melvin, the partner who worked with Steph. If you don't forgive Steph, you'll see her taking his place in all scenes we've seen him (like this one, and in the end when the MC's grandpa was arrested).

Thanks for the answer. I don't really see why they are watching him. Maybe they are just protecting Lexi and they also watch him in the same time? That would make sense because i think Stephanie was in metronome because she has to protect Lexi, but i'm not sure of it all. And in the same time, if they are here at the MC's grandpa scene, it mean that they could be watching because of the MC, not because of Lexi. It's confusing : s

 

[txe320]

Thanks for the answer. I don't really see why they are watching him. Maybe they are just protecting Lexi and they also watch him in the same time? That would make sense because i think Stephanie was in metronome because she has to protect Lexi, but i'm not sure of it all. But in the same time, if they are here with at the MC's grandpa scene, it mean that they could be watching because of the MC, not because of Lexi. It's confusing : s

Not really, Steph said it all when the MC and Cece go check on her in the bar. After, when she had a phone call, she refused it and after that when you have the sex scene with Steph at Lexi's, she basically said she was assigned to investigated at protect the MC.

At Metronome, she was there for a one-night job to be Lexi's bodyguard, kinda.

Now, if you refuse Steph at the bar, she answers the phone call and her new job is basically to continue protecting the MC.

Elhemeer, thanks man. I always thought he was basically arrested but was able to talk to MC "one last time" before going to prison.

 

[Eldiran]

I always assumed all the weirdo's were paparazzi keeping an eye on Lexi and the people she associated with. Never occurred to me to think about Steph's fake ex.

I think the paparazzi was the one who took the golfball but the fact that Melvin was using a binocular and not a camera was always an odd thing to me. The fact that they show you matt on the same time seemed to me that Drifty where teasing a potential conflict with these 2 antagonist. In the end they wheren't much to do with them so i was confused. (or maybe they are more for matt, i dunno i haven't done the linda route)

 

[Eldiran]

Not really, Steph said it all when the MC and Cece go check on her in the bar. After, when she had a phone call, she refused it and after that when you have the sex scene with Steph at Lexi's, she basically said she was assigned to investigated at protect the MC.

At Metronome, she was there for a one-night job to be Lexi's bodyguard, kinda.

Now, if you refuse Steph at the bar, she answers the phone call and her new job is basically to continue protecting the MC.

Elhemeer, thanks man. I always thought he was basically arrested but was able to talk to MC "one last time" before going to prison.

"she was assigned to investigated at protect the MC." I missread that! I was thinking she was refering at the time when they where younger. Thanks, all make sense now.

 

[Elhemeer]

I always assumed all the weirdo's were paparazzi keeping an eye on Lexi and the people she associated with. Never occurred to me to think about Steph's fake ex.

The guy with a golf-ball in his camera lens is definitely Paparazzi, but the guy with the binocs is Melvin (or Steph if you leave her at the bar).

Thanks for the answer. I don't really see why they are watching him. Maybe they are just protecting Lexi and they also watch him in the same time? That would make sense because i think Stephanie was in metronome because she has to protect Lexi, but i'm not sure of it all. And in the same time, if they are here at the MC's grandpa scene, it mean that they could be watching because of the MC, not because of Lexi. It's confusing : s

Not really, Steph said it all when the MC and Cece go check on her in the bar. After, when she had a phone call, she refused it and after that when you have the sex scene with Steph at Lexi's, she basically said she was assigned to investigated at protect the MC.

At Metronome, she was there for a one-night job to be Lexi's bodyguard, kinda.

Now, if you refuse Steph at the bar, she answers the phone call and her new job is basically to continue protecting the MC.

Elhemeer, thanks man. I always thought he was basically arrested but was able to talk to MC "one last time" before going to prison.

The whole implication with MC's family is that Grandpa was connected to some kind of Arab terrorist organization, and his dad fled the family before getting caught up in it, but he still was a person of interest because of that.

So when he sent MC the $200k, that put him in Homeland's crosshairs; and Steph's actions -- plus the mysterious pictures that turned up -- only exacerbated that situation. If she'd reported in and left as soon as she got what she needed ... well, then there's no story.

As for Grandpa, my take from the conversation they have in the park was that he lost his desire to fight sometime relatively recently, had enough pull to find his family in the US (probably the source of the mysterious pictures right before Steph was arrested), then came over and turned states evidence on the condition he gets one chance to talk with MC, maybe his son as well. So while he wasn't BEING arrested, he was probably under protection as a witness. If he was just under arrest I don't think he gets that chance with so small a group watching him.

All of this is just speculation of course. Drifty purposefully does not include any information about anyone in the game that isn't relevant to the time frame of the story and the 9 main characters. Even the identity of the binocs guy, and that he's Homeland, is just speculation. If you don't bring Steph along, she could have been called by a different agency for all we know. She doesn't get back with Homeland in that case until after Cece is out of the hospital.

 

[HiP1]

We don't actually know the guy with the binocular is Melvin. could just be a random spy.
and we don't really know if the old guy in the park is related to MC or not, either. let alone his grandpa.
we can only speculate and imagine from there if MC's family were terrorists, it would be in MC's file and Steph would know and would have told him at some point. if the old guy in the park is related to MC, he could just be someone important from an enemy state that wanted to come visit. that would set tons of alerts at Homeland and they would scramble to find someone to watch MC. MC's dad seemed rich enough to study abroad in the UK and the US. i'm not sure the family of known terrorists would be allowed to come and study freely for months/years.

 

[Eldiran]

The guy with a golf-ball in his camera lens is definitely Paparazzi, but the guy with the binocs is Melvin (or Steph if you leave her at the bar).


The whole implication with MC's family is that Grandpa was connected to some kind of Arab terrorist organization, and his dad fled the family before getting caught up in it, but he still was a person of interest because of that.

So when he sent MC the $200k, that put him in Homeland's crosshairs; and Steph's actions -- plus the mysterious pictures that turned up -- only exacerbated that situation. If she'd reported in and left as soon as she got what she needed ... well, then there's no story.

As for Grandpa, my take from the conversation they have in the park was that he lost his desire to fight sometime relatively recently, had enough pull to find his family in the US (probably the source of the mysterious pictures right before Steph was arrested), then came over and turned states evidence on the condition he gets one chance to talk with MC, maybe his son as well. So while he wasn't BEING arrested, he was probably under protection as a witness. If he was just under arrest I don't think he gets that chance with so small a group watching him.

All of this is just speculation of course. Drifty purposefully does not include any information about anyone in the game that isn't relevant to the time frame of the story and the 9 main characters. Even the identity of the binocs guy, and that he's Homeland, is just speculation. If you don't bring Steph along, she could have been called by a different agency for all we know. She doesn't get back with Homeland in that case until after Cece is out of the hospital.

So you do hear of her at the end. Like you see her new house near the beach or something else? I don't have the faith to redo a new route just to see that for now.

 

[Elhemeer]

We don't actually know the guy with the binocular is Melvin. could just be a random spy.
and we don't really know if the old guy in the park is related to MC or not, either. let alone his grandpa.
we can only speculate and imagine from there if MC's family were terrorists, it would be in MC's file and Steph would know and would have told him at some point. if the old guy in the park is related to MC, he could just be someone important from an enemy state that wanted to come visit. that would set tons of alerts at Homeland and they would scramble to find someone to watch MC. MC's dad seemed rich enough to study abroad in the UK and the US. i'm not sure the family of known terrorists would be allowed to come and study freely for months/years.

The terrorist part is complete speculation, although why else would the dad be on the watch list in the first place?

Melvin is also speculation with only hints, but the hints are pretty strong.

Guy in park is different. Drifty in the commentaries all but confirms he's a blood relation of some kind, so whether he's a grandfather, an uncle, or something else, it's a safe bet that he's more than just a random person. The fact that he's being secretly escorted by a government agency, but allowed to wander with a small detail means he's not a flight or rescue threat, so whatever his role is, it's either been accomplished already and he's just under permanent protection, or the threat isn't domestic and he's relatively safe in public in the states.

Everything else you suggested is possible, but doesn't fit the narrative of the story. For Homeland to investigate him for receiving a large sum of money from someone on the watch list means Homeland most likely suspects his dad at least MIGHT have a connection to a terrorist group. The photos that could never be traced were commissioned and leaked by someone two years prior, and the only person that shows up that fits the bill of being interested in him that Homeland shouldn't know about at the time is "grandpa."

I know the narrative isn't perfect, and there are definite logic and timing flaws, but the thing that would make the most sense is that everything IS connected, so I take that as my Cannon.

 

[Elhemeer]

So you do hear of her at the end. Like you see her new house near the beach or something else? I don't have the faith to redo a new route just to see that for now.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Steph is the only one who gets a beach house, and she gets it no matter what route you take. If you're on her route, you both get the beach house together (Well, she finds it and buys it with your combined money).

 

[HiP1]

The terrorist part is complete speculation, although why else would the dad be on the watch list in the first place?

Melvin is also speculation with only hints, but the hints are pretty strong.

Guy in park is different. Drifty in the commentaries all but confirms he's a blood relation of some kind, so whether he's a grandfather, an uncle, or something else, it's a safe bet that he's more than just a random person. The fact that he's being secretly escorted by a government agency, but allowed to wander with a small detail means he's not a flight or rescue threat, so whatever his role is, it's either been accomplished already and he's just under permanent protection, or the threat isn't domestic and he's relatively safe in public in the states.

Everything else you suggested is possible, but doesn't fit the narrative of the story. For Homeland to investigate him for receiving a large sum of money from someone on the watch list means Homeland most likely suspects his dad at least MIGHT have a connection to a terrorist group. The photos that could never be traced were commissioned and leaked by someone two years prior, and the only person that shows up that fits the bill of being interested in him that Homeland shouldn't know about at the time is "grandpa."

I know the narrative isn't perfect, and there are definite logic and timing flaws, but the thing that would make the most sense is that everything IS connected, so I take that as my Cannon.

honestly, there are flaws in that part of the story for sure.
if she had to investigate MC because of his family, Steph should know who and where his father is. She never tells him. if his family is full of terrorists, she should also know or at least deduce it as it would be the reason she investigates in the first place, and she doesn't tell him either.
and the money coming from life insurance should be VERY easy to trace back to the source. it was never hidden. MC's stepmother's death should also have been recorded, investigated and easily verified. there would be no need to investigate MC, AND it should tell Steph who and where MC's father is, and she could easily tell him.

 

[Eldiran]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Steph is the only one who gets a beach house, and she gets it no matter what route you take. If you're on her route, you both get the beach house together (Well, she finds it and buys it with your combined money).

Sorry but i was just acknowledging what you said because in my 3 route i always let steph in with me into the lexi house, so i didn't know she get the beach house even if we don't let her in. I also think that her new roommate must be a cameo from another game because Drifty do that a lot but it's just speculation : )

 

[TGafy]

honestly, there are flaws in that part of the story for sure.
if she had to investigate MC because of his family, Steph should know who and where his father is. She never tells him. if his family is full of terrorists, she should also know or at least deduce it as it would be the reason she investigates in the first place, and she doesn't tell him either.
and the money coming from life insurance should be VERY easy to trace back to the source. it was never hidden. MC's stepmother's death should also have been recorded, investigated and easily verified. there would be no need to investigate MC, AND it should tell Steph who and where MC's father is, and she could easily tell him.

I don't know the reach that homeland has so anyone please feel free to correct me. I understood that part of the story as MC's dad leaving the middle east to the uk. Likely changed his name too. As for the life insurance, where was the policy from? If it's a company in the states, I can see homeland discovering this information. However, finding out details of identity changes and insurance policies that take place in other countries... I can see how homeland wasn't able to find out.

Sorry but i was just acknowledging what you said because in my 3 route i always let steph in with me into the lexi house, so i didn't know she get the beach house even if we don't let her in. I also think that her new roommate must be a cameo from another game because Drifty do that a lot but it's just speculation : )

You're right, the new roommate, Amrit, is a potential main LI in STWA: Unbroken.

 

[turbojoe]

Just proceeding the Lexi path on my 2nd playthrough - it seem´s there is an option for a threesome with Holly?

 

[Elhemeer]

Sorry but i was just acknowledging what you said because in my 3 route i always let steph in with me into the lexi house, so i didn't know she get the beach house even if we don't let her in. I also think that her new roommate must be a cameo from another game because Drifty do that a lot but it's just speculation : )

Okay, I will admit, I have no idea of she gets the beach house if you don't bring her with you. You don't visit her in the final chapter, you only see her with the old man and Melvin in the park and since she doesn't spend time with YOU in Jersey (although you can guess she might be around somewhere) you don't know if get has the opportunity to get the beach house or ever meet Amrit.

 

[iamcomming]

Just proceeding the Lexi path on my 2nd playthrough - it seem´s there is an option for a threesome with Holly?

i didnt play, but i thinks so

 

[Eldiran]

Just proceeding the Lexi path on my 2nd playthrough - it seem´s there is an option for a threesome with Holly?

As a lot of people as already stated here, you can. In fact you can even get an Holly path but i warn you that it's a cheating path. It's why i didn't get there but it definitivly exist.

It remind me of what drifty said about holly. At first he didn't considerate holly as a potential LI but because a lot of people wanted that to happen, he did it. After that he stated something like, each time he will put a girl with minimum character devellopment in his game, they will have people who want to romance her.

I've not yet played his new game U4ia but i wonder how he has resolve this dynamic, especialy with the best friend of the mc (i postulate that the mc will have a male friend). But this isn't the place to rumble about it (better do that on the new game), especialy because i don't want to spoil myself too much with this probable gem who avait me : )

 

[Elhemeer]

Just proceeding the Lexi path on my 2nd playthrough - it seem´s there is an option for a threesome with Holly?

Spoiler: The Holly Path

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