Asifgadha

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Does the game end at the first weekend? Stuck "waiting for the DeCapos to come. Can't seem to do anything and any time I try to pass time it just says "I can't waste time right now, the DeCapos will be here any minute."
 

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Does the game end at the first weekend? Stuck "waiting for the DeCapos to come. Can't seem to do anything and any time I try to pass time it just says "I can't waste time right now, the DeCapos will be here any minute."
Go in the livingroom

EDIT: Everyone can go on to get help with the game, there is a specific channel just for that...
 

Rendeer

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Can not get the other day! He say all the time i have to look if lauren is ok before i can go to bed but nothing happend if i have a look in her room.... help

This is worse. Game is unplayable with this bug....
 

Tanwise

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Willtylor, since you said you're open to criticism, I've come across a few major annoyance after only the first 20 minutes of game play or so. First is the over sized penis sticking out of the MC's boxers at the very beginning. I don't know if that some sort of crud way of saying, "hey, look at me, I'm a big man". But personally you could accomplish the same thing MUCH more tactfully by having the character wear larger tight boxers and just having the shape of the "thing" showing under the boxers.

Second is the MC's younger sister who while giving her background in the portrait, she's described as having been extremely close, practically best friends with the MC up until recently. Yet during the conversation the MC has with her while Jacky (the mother) is talking to the Mafia. The younger sister basically tells the MC that the mother is awesome and can handle anything, then all but proceeds to tell the MC he's a worthless turd. This has become an overused and boring cliche, ESPECIALLY when their backstory doesn't align that way.

I'm not sure if you've heard of the phrase, "cookie cutter", but the first two examples in your game. Are just that, repetitive boring characteristics that far too many game dev have in their games for their characters. Dev's need to stop copying and pasting bad, terrible, crud, and disappointing features they find in other games. And instead do what developing a game, creating a story is suppose to be about, original, fresh, and creative.

Oh and one last example, this is why I put the game on hold to type this message, this is where I had enough! If you're going to make a multiple choice game, DON'T have ALERT messages of any sort suddenly appear with the intention of insulting or belitting or sneering at the player for choices the player just previously made in the game. I don't know if as a developer you thought you were being clever, or witty. But to me, if I want try a safer route versus a risky route, just to see if it gets me where I'm trying to go in the game. I don't need or want the dev throwing a game alert in my face intended as peer pressure, for "not being man enough". Then on top of that having it say, too bad game over.

EDIT: Another example after I went back to the game. Stop with damned cliche of "MC has their lust in overdrive monologue thoughts.

Are you telling the player what they can and can't do in the game or are you going to give players actual options?!

Anyway, this is far longer than I meant to type. But I figured since you said you're new at gave development, I thought I'd post my critique.
 

Rendeer

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noone can tell me why i cant sleep in my bad without looking to laura? This do not work.... it is silly!
 

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Can not get the other day! He say all the time i have to look if lauren is ok before i can go to bed but nothing happend if i have a look in her room.... help

This is worse. Game is unplayable with this bug....
noone can tell me why i cant sleep in my bad without looking to laura? This do not work.... it is silly!
You must go to Laurens room, also you can get more help on the channel.

Did you use game version v0.01b Bugfix of the game?
 

WillTylor

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Willtylor, since you said you're open to criticism, I've come across a few major annoyance after only the first 20 minutes of game play or so. First is the over sized penis sticking out of the MC's boxers at the very beginning. I don't know if that some sort of crud way of saying, "hey, look at me, I'm a big man". But personally you could accomplish the same thing MUCH more tactfully by having the character wear larger tight boxers and just having the shape of the "thing" showing under the boxers.
Thanks for taking the time to post a critique, I know my tastes are different from a lot of people, and I'll be the first to acknowledge my weakness as a writer. So I just thought I'd respond to a few things, and tell you why I did what I did, and the rest I'll use to try to better the story in the future.

First as far as the MC's huge Penis. I'm a big fan of porn, and I especially enjoy when a girl almost gets split in half on someones dick, and since this is a porn game that presents a fictional scenario, I chose to have the MC's penis be closer to the porn cliche than that of real life. I tried not to go too overboard though, trust me it could have been bigger. ;)

Second is the MC's younger sister who while giving her background in the portrait, she's described as having been extremely close, practically best friends with the MC up until recently. Yet during the conversation the MC has with her while Jacky (the mother) is talking to the Mafia. The younger sister basically tells the MC that the mother is awesome and can handle anything, then all but proceeds to tell the MC he's a worthless turd. This has become an overused and boring cliche, ESPECIALLY when their backstory doesn't align that way.
I know there are plenty of examples in this game of my poor writing skills, but I was a little surprised this one bugged you so bad. I don't know if you have siblings, but I do, and you can be very close to a sibling and still be condescending and derisive to each other. (maybe it's different in other families.) I personally think this is a more realistic portrayal of sibling dynamics than if she just totally doted over the MC and just went along with everything he says and does.

I'm not sure if you've heard of the phrase, "cookie cutter", but the first two examples in your game. Are just that, repetitive boring characteristics that far too many game dev have in their games for their characters. Dev's need to stop copying and pasting bad, terrible, crud, and disappointing features they find in other games. And instead do what developing a game, creating a story is suppose to be about, original, fresh, and creative.
I freely admit that this game is "cookie cutter". I decided to take the things that I really like from other developers games and make my own version of it. In no way do I claim to be an innovator in porn game development. I'm really just trying to create a game that I enjoy playing.

Oh and one last example, this is why I put the game on hold to type this message, this is where I had enough! If you're going to make a multiple choice game, DON'T have ALERT messages of any sort suddenly appear with the intention of insulting or belitting or sneering at the player for choices the player just previously made in the game. I don't know if as a developer you thought you were being clever, or witty. But to me, if I want try a safer route versus a risky route, just to see if it gets me where I'm trying to go in the game. I don't need or want the dev throwing a game alert in my face intended as peer pressure, for "not being man enough". Then on top of that having it say, too bad game over.
This part of developing a game is what I have found to be the hardest. I want to create a game where the player feels like he has some freedom to choose, but since I'm just one guy. I don't have the time or energy to develop hundreds of different story arcs. So the way I see it is there are several different types of choices in the game. There's the kind that is meant to just create an illusion of choice, but don't actually have any consequences on the story. There are the types of choices that effect the way a character reacts to the MC (changing their stats one way or the other) making them able to trigger or miss certain events, and then there's the choices that change the arc of the story. I would love to have more of the last type, and maybe will have more of them in the future, but for now as a brand new game if I created too many arcs, the updates would be very disappointing to anyone who is focusing on one arc of the game, since I would have to spread my time and attention to all of the different arcs. For this reason, for now, I'm trying to steer the player down a fairly bi-linear story line that rewards player for making certain choices, and punishes them for making others.

EDIT: Another example after I went back to the game. Stop with damned cliche of "MC has their lust in overdrive monologue thoughts.
He's a kid who wants to fuck his mom and sisters, what else would motivate him down such a devious course.

Are you telling the player what they can and can't do in the game or are you going to give players actual options?!

Anyway, this is far longer than I meant to type. But I figured since you said you're new at gave development, I thought I'd post my critique.
Anyways, thanks again for your critique, I hope I was able to answer some of your questions of why I did things the way I did. I really do appreciate constructive criticism, as it gives me things to think about and hopefully will make the story better going forward.
 

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I wonder what the new revenue option will be in the future? If it means earning respect, it probably won't be from spy cams... Any thoughts guys?
Personally, I can't wait either!
The only thing that I can confirm is that you'll have another way to earn money and it'll be by tacking some pictures... Please wait for the new game update and you'll not be disappointed.
 
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would be interesting to have a storyline that involves the MC and his "harem" taking over the crime syndicate bit by bit...
either by involving yourself and rise through the ranks or by instigating a bloody coup... maybe with the help of some agents that have an axe to grind (literally) against the mob...
maybe there could be an option to train one of the women to become an escort/killer...

or maybe i should stop watching too many crime dramas ;-)
 
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