Kolya4677

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in my playthrough i have nothing on cami except house chores. so we dont know. but sidney i think she was the 1st to fully become MCs girl and a loyal one if we make her close to the girl not the boss.
This is good news, she was more willing to have sexual contact than others, maybe she wanted it earlier or she liked him?
 

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Seems like there is a bug, no idea if it was reported but i was on the loyalty path, i had 1 NTR i think, and then at the first beach event when OC screw his mom and then Joey screw her too everything took a turn : now Matt is Lauren's bf and the mom fucks him too (he was never at that point). It seems that now Lauren think she didn't win the election (except that she did)
 
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Kolya4677

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Seems like there is a bug, no idea if it was reported but i was on the loyalty path, i had 1 NTR i think, and then at the first beach event when OC screw his mom and then Joey screw her too everything took a turn : now Matt is Lauren's bf and the mom fucks him too (he was never at that point). It seems that now Lauren think she didn't win the election (except that she did)
maybe it was intended that way or was it a loss?
 

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I think some NTR is intended, but the part where Matt become Lauren's BF and fucks the mom seems really off, like if a trigger was broken. It's the only event in wich he is considered that
To me, that's when the route began to go off the rails. It was one thing when Ryan agreed with Matt's scheme so that he could fuck Jacky but then Jacky goes whole hog into Matt without Ryan doing something about it. Once Ryan's goal of getting to screw his mom was accomplished and Matt kept pursuing her, Ryan first, should have confronted him and when that didn't work, have Matt cut out of the picture through Diaz. With none of that happening and everyone seemingly getting fucked by his rival (and Matt is Still Ryan's rival), it kind of turned me off. Considering all of the scheming that he did to get to his sisters and Jacky, plus the tactics he used to help Lauren win the election, there's No Way that Ryan should have allowed events to get this far.
Now, I get that it's the NTR route But, that could have been continued on with the mob boss, considering that he helped set Ryan up to see his mom naked and dancing as a stripper. That part of the storyline is more justifiable than Ryan allowing Matt to destroy everything that he's schemed so hard for in the first place. As I said, that particular part of the story is off the rails.
 

chuck69

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To me, that's when the route began to go off the rails. It was one thing when Ryan agreed with Matt's scheme so that he could fuck Jacky but then Jacky goes whole hog into Matt without Ryan doing something about it. Once Ryan's goal of getting to screw his mom was accomplished and Matt kept pursuing her, Ryan first, should have confronted him and when that didn't work, have Matt cut out of the picture through Diaz. With none of that happening and everyone seemingly getting fucked by his rival (and Matt is Still Ryan's rival), it kind of turned me off. Considering all of the scheming that he did to get to his sisters and Jacky, plus the tactics he used to help Lauren win the election, there's No Way that Ryan should have allowed events to get this far.
Now, I get that it's the NTR route But, that could have been continued on with the mob boss, considering that he helped set Ryan up to see his mom naked and dancing as a stripper. That part of the storyline is more justifiable than Ryan allowing Matt to destroy everything that he's schemed so hard for in the first place. As I said, that particular part of the story is off the rails.
at the end of the day, this is a fun game despite some pretty big logic, and continuity flaws. the core story is good, so ill keep playing.
To your point, I completely agree. matts route requires the player to disregard an awful lot of logic. apparently matt has the power to make anyone (especially ryan) drop an alarming amount of IQ points just by entering the room. lol
its also really unfortunate that 99% of devs cant write a black male charactor that isnt a racist jackass, who will inevitably start spewing cringe lines like "take my onyx rod, white bitch." at this point, that b.s. is just cliche, kind of sad, and in this case, made worse by the fact that we know this devs capable of better writing.

unless its a bug, the joey stuff can be disabled if you make all the mob payments before the scene "smoked joeys cigar", even with ntr turned on. if you can choose matt only, then the reverse should also be an option. the game would be even better if winning the election could turn off matts side of the ntr. however, this is just my opinion.
 

Kolya4677

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I think some NTR is intended, but the part where Matt become Lauren's BF and fucks the mom seems really off, like if a trigger was broken. It's the only event in wich he is considered that
but ryan can fuck lauren too, or should i choose lauren or sydney?
 

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Seems like there is a bug, no idea if it was reported but i was on the loyalty path, i had 1 NTR i think, and then at the first beach event when OC screw his mom and then Joey screw her too everything took a turn : now Matt is Lauren's bf and the mom fucks him too (he was never at that point). It seems that now Lauren think she didn't win the election (except that she did)
We did a bugfix file for this exact issue, and the latest build for our subscribers has this bug fixed as well. I’m guessing the build posted here on the OP must be an older build.
 
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colombianhoes

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at the end of the day, this is a fun game despite some pretty big logic, and continuity flaws. the core story is good, so ill keep playing.
To your point, I completely agree. matts route requires the player to disregard an awful lot of logic. apparently matt has the power to make anyone (especially ryan) drop an alarming amount of IQ points just by entering the room. lol
its also really unfortunate that 99% of devs cant write a black male charactor that isnt a racist jackass, who will inevitably start spewing cringe lines like "take my onyx rod, white bitch." at this point, that b.s. is just cliche, kind of sad, and in this case, made worse by the fact that we know this devs capable of better writing.

unless its a bug, the joey stuff can be disabled if you make all the mob payments before the scene "smoked joeys cigar", even with ntr turned on. if you can choose matt only, then the reverse should also be an option. the game would be even better if winning the election could turn off matts side of the ntr. however, this is just my opinion.
How would you write a ntr character?
I think you dont like it just cuz you dont like the kink in the first place
People that do like ntr is pretty much standard, theres even more extremes lol
Hes supposed to be a racist jackass, i really dont see any way around unless hes a normal dude that doesnt fuck his sister
 

chuck69

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How would you write a ntr character?
I think you dont like it just cuz you dont like the kink in the first place
People that do like ntr is pretty much standard, theres even more extremes lol
Hes supposed to be a racist jackass, i really dont see any way around unless hes a normal dude that doesnt fuck his sister

tbh, it sounds like you have ntr confused with a fetish for bigoted black men (meh, you do you). hate to break it to you, but neither are required for a ntr tag.

i guess part of what you said is true. no, i dont have a kink for racially motivated content, which is why i pointed out that theres a perfect spot to turn it off, and still get the club path. especially considering that it seems like a player can get the matt content, but skip joey.

the fact that you seem to be stating that its impossible to write a black male without race baiting is pretty messed up, but that holds no weight concerning my ability to enjoy ntr games, including this one. cheers!
 
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strenif

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Are there any scenes with Matt's mother? If not are there any plans in the future to be included in the future? If that shithead has the option to ntr the mc, then we should have the option to ntr him.
Not currently.

She's someone Will and I have talked about adding many times.
It's something we'd like to do but she's not currently on the road map.

At the moment, we're focused on Cami's story. At the end of which, a lot more group content can start being made.
Following Cami's story, we will swap over to Daiz as well as some main story progression.
 

colombianhoes

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the fact that you seem to be stating that its impossible to write a black male without race baiting is pretty messed up, but that holds no weight concerning my ability to enjoy ntr games, including this one. cheers!
Well, like you said, 99% of the devs seem to disagree with you, so...
Its pretty popular to have interracial ntr and being a jackass is part of it and i can name way more with those than without it. The point of whole ntr is to get humiliated and yet you cant handle race baiting lol?
 

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The interracial kink was popular for the same reason incest is popular.
Its taboo nature.
Obviously as time has gone on, interracial is less and less taboo. But thous are it's root.

Bringing race into the dirty talk isn't necessary but that's the direction Will went with it.
It's not a plot point, just a bit of dialog. If someone chooses to be offended by it, there's not much I can say to them.

Originally Matt was going to me more of a buddy than an antagonist. Basically someone Ryan would share girls with.
That was changed (my fault) during Lauren's story as we needed someone for Lauren to run against, and Matt was the only male student at school with a name.

Later once it became clear what a nightmare having a harem route, a NTR route, and a sharing route. Will just cut the sharing route out of the game plan.

We're still working on issues when player pick NTR for Jacky and Loy for Lauren. It's frankly not something we expected players to do. The thinking was, if you liked NTR, you'd stick with that for each girl. And if you didn't, you'd avoid it for each girl.

Clearly we missread that.
 
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colombianhoes

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The interracial kink was popular for the same reason incest is popular.
Its taboo nature.
Obviously as time has gone on, interracial is less and less taboo. But thous are it's root.

Bringing race into the dirty talk isn't necessary but that's the direction Will went with it.
It's not a plot point, just a bit of dialog. If someone chooses to be offended by it, there's not much I can say to them.

Originally Matt was going to me more of a buddy than an antagonist. Basically someone Ryan would share girls with.
That was changed (my fault) during Lauren's story as we needed someone for Lauren to run against, and Matt was the only male student at school with a name.

Later once it became clear what a nightmare having a harem route, a NTR route, and a sharing route. Will just cut the sharing route out of the game plan.

We're still working on issues when player pick NTR for Jacky and Loy for Lauren. It's frankly not something we expected players to do. The thinking was, if you liked NTR, you'd stick with that for each girl. And if you didn't, you'd avoid it for each girl.

Clearly we missread that.
Yeah probably the same way yall gonna make either everyone or none pregnant.
But i wont bust your balls to make it individual i guess
 
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