RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[bebe33]

How often those he update the game? know there was a update some week ago, just finished that part, still missing the new city where every char wanna go

Lol just look at the changelog. Or his patreon.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I may have expressed myself incorrectly. In short, I meant that there is no point in avoiding NTR content

That's subjective. People have a variety of reasons for avoiding it.

because there is no serious nonlinearity as such.

What do you think "nonlinearity" is, and how does it relate to avoiding any content/kink in the game?

:EDIT:
bebe33 Multi-quote is always better than multi-post...

 

[bebe33]

Can someone give latest update ntr save?

Can someone add 6.0.5b

How often those he update the game? know there was a update some week ago, just finished that part, still missing the new city where every char wanna go

Use search feature. And check changelog for update frequency.

Snugglepuff THanks!

 

[Jeferss12]

I may have expressed myself incorrectly. In short, I meant that there is no point in avoiding NTR content, because there is no serious nonlinearity as such. That's what I meant by (PUNISHING) the player, that he will lose his scenes, but there will be scenes with other people, in fact this is not so. So the characters do not react (against) the fact that they are in the NTR branch. The player will punish himself by not seeing the content.
The maximum CHOICE (which is not to say that it depends on NTR) that I have encountered in the game is :
1) the queen's daughter - tell her what is happening or not. 2) If Dazan remains the Chieftain of the tribe, he will simply choose for you so that the orc girl becomes more like a human. 3) Events in the cathedral and the succubus - and what to do with all the characters. 4) Will girls come to Thomas at night, 5) betray the witch or not and what will happen to the one who was summoned (will she be like a servant or like a normal person) , 6) Release the Raven or capture him and 7) WHERE is it better to bring the princess - to the baron or to your camp.
In fact, this is the maximum branching in the game, and all the other events do not affect the relationship with the hero in any way.

I personally think that there really is a point in giving the player the option to evade the NTR, in any story there are always a character or characters that the player or reader would not like to see in certain scenes, so it is the developer working to give players the freedom to choose a linearity in the story that is more to their liking, now in this game what would really make players miss most of the content is evading the corruption of the characters, that is really what cannot be evaded in this game the corruption if or if you will need a certain degree of corruption to access most of the content, since the content that is obtained only through the affection is really little compared to everything that the game covers, as for the NTR it is more to the personal taste of each player if they enjoy seeing sex scenes in which a love interest of the protagonist or a character who has a romantic relationship with the deceived party, gets involved with someone else, or if they enjoy sex with multiple participants then It allows them the option of sharing the girls with other male characters, such as Kate with the MC's best friend, Bianca with the goblin who appears after completing the goblin trouble quest, or the girls in the mercenary camp with the MC's mercenaries, or the women in the Rumah village with the other male members of the tribe. This is optional if the chief is the leader, but mandatory if Dazan is the leader.

So, it really is a fundamental point to avoid certain routes in order to give each of the characters a proper and logical ending.

What I do think the developer should change are the dialogues in swinging, when the MC allows the girls to have sex with other men besides him, since from the dialogues it really appears that the girls are cheating on him with others, as is the case of Mira when you are in the route where you have a romantic relationship with her, and she sees you having sex with Heater and after that she asks you if it would be okay for her to have sex with other men without any commitment, in the dialogues that she has with Adalain, it is mentioned how the two are in love and supposedly have planned to get married all this while having sex, which is not logical given that the MC allowed her to have sex without any commitment, so an adjustment for the dialogues in that route would be convenient to avoid confusion and make it agree with what would be Sharing and not NTR

 

[Pa3uk]

Possibly found a bug that allows you to pump up your hacking skills+dex practically standing still at the start of the game. As soon as you get the Lockpick , you need to open INN, basically it's all. Repeat until you get bored or until the skill is upgraded. Regardless of 0 energy, the hero will continue to do this, and to all other doors he will say - I'm tired. ^_^
Although apparently karma punished me for this method and when I decided to CHECK and hack Emily's house at night, but as soon as I appeared on the threshold, I caught SOFTLOCK and could not move and the game menu did not respond The hero just got stuck, it's also funny that I turned off Autosave, because of which I threw away +- an hour of life ^_^

 

[al.shm]

Is game have gallery i cant find nowhere

 

[Overlord070]

Long story short, the game heavily favors the NTR route, and it looks like that’s the better way to play (again -_-).

No it doesn't, in fact the NTR doesn't even make sense for most characters.

Except for TIA and orcs (if you keep losing to them like a loser) and the goblins that apparently have some kind of aphrodisiac magic to them, the other NTR characters are just there for the sake of ntr patrons and the situations are entirely contrived. There is no reason why any LI would prefer them over the MC who is much better in bed and has a bigger dick.

The player will punish himself by not seeing the content.

For most people the punishment would be to see the MC as a cuck.
It depends on if you enjoy cuck content or not.

 

[Nihlos]

Nope. Her only way to transform is sex, and without her transformation there is no way to learn dark magic.
At some point there will be possible Sabrina futa content and you can get some rest if you choose it.

Got it, thanks. Unfortunate but understandable from a story perspective. May just avoid it for now. Plenty of other great content in the game.

 

[Pa3uk]

No it doesn't, in fact the NTR doesn't even make sense for most characters.

Well, that's more or less what I was talking about, in fact, the NTR tag doesn't work in the game because if you're picky, it means when your other half is fucked WITHOUT your knowledge, i.e. you shouldn't know about it, and the fact that the hero watches or knows is already a cuckold, and such a one can even (passively) participate. And in the game, these tags don't work because there are no people CLOSE to the main character, well, yes, Tia becomes (supposedly a wife), but she doesn't voluntarily cheat on the hero so that he doesn't find out, the same applies to Emily(who we learn is a nobody to the hero, because the FATHER killed at the beginning is not his biological father and therefore she is a stranger to him), even taking into account that we marry her, the hero can still find out that she goes to the baron. So. the use of these tags is still in question and that's why I called the walkthrough a) Love line, when I tried to persuade ALL the characters to be as close as possible to the hero, b) Cupid line, this is when everyone knows about each other and consciously fucks everything that moves (here they call it NTR, although I don't agree with this).
The maximum that is in the game and this needs to be taken into account is BRANCHES in the plot, which (for now) are not entirely clear what they can lead to and I have already voiced some of them.
If I repeat quickly, then:
1) our main quest is to REVENGE (i.e. KILL Gurtak), but we can not kill, but enslave - with a spell and therefore the quest will not be complete, but the ORC can become a leader.
2) What to do with the queen's daughter (let her eavesdrop on the conversation or not).
3) What to do with the princess who was kidnapped (take her to the baron or to the camp).
4) What to do with the RAVEN (let him go or take him prisoner).
5) What to do with the CUP (drink it, do not touch it or bring it).
6) Agree with the succubus and corrupt the cathedral or not...
7) Interfere in Ophilia's conversations or leave her alone.
8) Be faithful to the Witch or betray her.
9) The best outcome with Penny's sister.
10) The best outcome with Anya and the resistance.
11) Who will become the leader of the village and if NOT to kill Dazan and let him escape...
In fact, these are all the moments (at the moment) that raise questions because the moments are not obvious. And everything else is absolutely unimportant.

 

[Overlord070]

Got it, thanks. Unfortunate but understandable from a story perspective. May just avoid it for now. Plenty of other great content in the game.

She's tied to a few other characters and plot points, I'd advise just spamming sex with her and pressing the pagedown button (massively speeds up dialogue) and getting it over with until she transforms.

Then later on there is a route to "conspire" against her by siding with Athia (this route is only at the begining for now).

Well, that's more or less what I was talking about, in fact, the NTR tag doesn't work in the game because if you're picky, it means when your other half is fucked WITHOUT your knowledge, i.e. you shouldn't know about it, and the fact that the hero watches or knows is already a cuckold, and such a one can even (passively) participate. And in the game, these tags don't work because there are no people CLOSE to the main character, well, yes, Tia becomes (supposedly a wife), but she doesn't voluntarily cheat on the hero so that he doesn't find out, the same applies to Emily(who we learn is a nobody to the hero, because the FATHER killed at the beginning is not his biological father and therefore she is a stranger to him), even taking into account that we marry her, the hero can still find out that she goes to the baron. So. the use of these tags is still in question and that's why I called the walkthrough a) Love line, when I tried to persuade ALL the characters to be as close as possible to the hero, b) Cupid line, this is when everyone knows about each other and consciously fucks everything that moves (here they call it NTR, although I don't agree with this).

Yeah it's being a cuck and until they rework the tags (sometime never) that is the NTR tag.
On this website, NTR tag = Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

 

[Overlord070]

1) our main quest is to REVENGE (i.e. KILL Gurtak), but we can not kill, but enslave - with a spell and therefore the quest will not be complete, but the ORC can become a leader.
2) What to do with the queen's daughter (let her eavesdrop on the conversation or not).
3) What to do with the princess who was kidnapped (take her to the baron or to the camp).
4) What to do with the RAVEN (let him go or take him prisoner).
5) What to do with the CUP (drink it, do not touch it or bring it).
6) Agree with the succubus and corrupt the cathedral or not...
7) Interfere in Ophilia's conversations or leave her alone.
8) Be loyal to Velma or betray her.
9) The best outcome with Penny's sister.
10) The best outcome with Anya and the resistance.
11) Who will become the leader of the village and if NOT to kill Dazan and let him escape...
In fact, these are all the moments (at the moment) that raise questions because the moments are not obvious. And everything else is absolutely unimportant.

Doesn't this go against your own view that the game is for ntr route? None of the options you mentioned require ntr.

Also we CAN kill gurtak and no clue who velma is I'm guessing you gave an LI a custom name.

 

[Matiur13]

I have a questions:

When the MC gets acquainted with Melissa she mentions a popular girl from the Kirlic's University. Could this person be Coldstone's daugther?

 

[al.shm]

if avoid ntr path but corrupt womans is game go to ntr path auto?

 

[al.shm]

its just confuse me more the choice paths are way to lot and with diffrent outcomes dev is so fucking talented its very rare in type of games

 

[XSelLint]

its just confuse me more the choice paths are way to lot and with diffrent outcomes dev is so fucking talented its very rare in type of games

Yea, that's what makes this game special. Also, the dev pays attention to little details. Like MC making his house bigger, Rick will come over and ask if MC is settling down to start a family. If you haven't done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, he will assume it's Mira that MC is settling down with. If you done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, Rick will assume that MC is settling down with Arianna, and you get a little funny dialogue in exchange. It's nothing important but little details like this makes a difference for playing and enjoying.

 

[al.shm]

Yea, that's what makes this game special. Also, the dev pays attention to little details. Like MC making his house bigger, Rick will come over and ask if MC is settling down to start a family. If you haven't done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, he will assume it's Mira that MC is settling down with. If you done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, Rick will assume that MC is settling down with Arianna, and you get a little funny dialogue in exchange. It's nothing important but little details like this makes a difference for playing and enjoying.

Thats why i try use walkthrough to not screw the choices

 

[anyone121]

is there any future of babies in rumah and using them to attack other places after they grow up?

 

[Messerah]

A small question. I have pumped up the minimum necessary skills with quests, etc. Theft remains. But as I understand it, Bianca will help. So I still have a lot of skill points left and as I understand it, in the future they will only grow with level, etc. What is better to focus on and pump up to the maximum? I saved Sabrina, I will soon learn magic. How strong is magic, compared to weapons? Does it make sense to pump up intelligence to the maximum? Or dexerity better? Or other?

 

[Lewdboyzzz]

I have a questions:

When the MC gets acquainted with Melissa she mentions a popular girl from the Kirlic's University. Could this person be Coldstone's daugther?

her roommate? that is sabrina the witch apprentice

 

[Chii]

A small question. I have pumped up the minimum necessary skills with quests, etc. Theft remains. But as I understand it, Bianca will help. So I still have a lot of skill points left and as I understand it, in the future they will only grow with level, etc. What is better to focus on and pump up to the maximum? I saved Sabrina, I will soon learn magic. How strong is magic, compared to weapons? Does it make sense to pump up intelligence to the maximum? Or dexerity better? Or other?

Right now there is no point or need in maxing any given stat and most is just personal taste.
You can ignore Nature (Have Tia be your herbs finder) Weapons mastery (MC can't learn any skill yet) and even Armor proficiency (MC is beefy enough and Tia/Lyvia are perfectly fine tanks) and basically evenly spread your points through the rest.
10 Dexterity will already grant you 1st in battle, 9 iirc Hunting will allow you to get all skills from Corven, 8 thievery will get you all skills from Bianca, 3 armor will allow you to equip normal armor.

her roommate? that is sabrina the witch apprentice

Only reading your comment now did I remember the Sabrina the teenage witch, makes me wonder if Chyos drew any inspiration lmao.