RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[RamirezRJBR]

I'm stuck I can't have dinner with athia how do I trigger it?

Do you have food stored in the house?

 

[herugrim123]

I don't fully understand how you would need someone else (creator or a walkthrough) to tell you what is good or evil before you decide to continue playing. Surely you have a moral compass of sorts yourself. Play the way you wish to play, do what feels right to you. If this means certain content remains locked out for you, who cares? That's pretty much life, ain't it?

Only deciding whether or not you support a game after the entire game is finished leaves you with very little choice I think, I don't know many games (that are worth playing) that were released fully completed from the get-go. Most best games (subjective, opinion) on here are still in progress.

I just want to see Kirlic.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

Regarding Julia, I haven't started her quest yet. However, I am not interested in having sex with her, nor in corrupting her, nor in marrying her. But I saw that there is a dialogue between her and the MC where the MC chooses to give her hope or not. What kind of hope? Something like marrying her or something like releasing her from Giron? I want to help her, but without sex, without corruption and without marriage. In friendship! lol

 

[RamirezRJBR]

I don't fully understand how you would need someone else (creator or a walkthrough) to tell you what is good or evil before you decide to continue playing. Surely you have a moral compass of sorts yourself. Play the way you wish to play, do what feels right to you. If this means certain content remains locked out for you, who cares? That's pretty much life, ain't it?

Only deciding whether or not you support a game after the entire game is finished leaves you with very little choice I think, I don't know many games (that are worth playing) that were released fully completed from the get-go. Most best games (subjective, opinion) on here are still in progress.

I just want to see Kirlic.

Yup. A new map with Kirlic would be really cool. Evolve some stories like Katie's, for example.

 

[H2R]

Do you have food stored in the house?

I figured it out, apparently I had to talk to her in her room first before she could start cooking

 

[zARRR]

Regarding Julia, I haven't started her quest yet. However, I am not interested in having sex with her, nor in corrupting her, nor in marrying her. But I saw that there is a dialogue between her and the MC where the MC chooses to give her hope or not. What kind of hope? Something like marrying her or something like releasing her from Giron? I want to help her, but without sex, without corruption and without marriage. In friendship! lol

I think the only hope you can give to her, is the marriage, Julia is still in construction so wait how she will develop when her poll option gets voted.

I don't fully understand how you would need someone else (creator or a walkthrough) to tell you what is good or evil before you decide to continue playing. Surely you have a moral compass of sorts yourself. Play the way you wish to play, do what feels right to you. If this means certain content remains locked out for you, who cares? That's pretty much life, ain't it?

Only deciding whether or not you support a game after the entire game is finished leaves you with very little choice I think, I don't know many games (that are worth playing) that were released fully completed from the get-go. Most best games (subjective, opinion) on here are still in progress.

I just want to see Kirlic.

Kirlic next year at this rate

 

[Yotetar]

When you need someone to tells what is right and what is wrong, what is good or what is evil, it means, by fact, that the parents made a huge mistake.Parents are responsible of their kids, and that means, education.School teachs you about maths, parents teachs you about responsability, morality, rules,etc. If you are not being educated in house, you cannot expect being educated outside.

And that's a downfall of an age in humanity.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

When you need someone to tells what is right and what is wrong, what is good or what is evil, it means, by fact, that the parents made a huge mistake.Parents are responsible of their kids, and that means, education.School teachs you about maths, parents teachs you about responsability, morality, rules,etc. If you are not being educated in house, you cannot expect being educated outside.

And that's a downfall of an age in humanity.

Not necessarily. It was understood that family education is responsible for the formation of a child's character, but this is not decisive. There are people who are very well educated in the moral field and are later corrupted, just as there are people who do not have any education and throughout life, only and from their character (which is born with them) they are able to have a high morality regardless of middle where they live. That is, you can even blame the family and the world, but in the end you were the one who made the mistake. Your choice.

 

[a1fox3]

Its not about right or wrong but which way is best for the best outcome for the game and at this time there is not enough info for that.
1. Who do we side with the king or the brother.
2. Dark elves.
3. Raven.
4. Demons.
5. Gods/deities.
6. Emily's family seems the best is to help each one.
7. Grion and his fucked up shit.
8. And we can not forget the wear wolf cult.
Regardless I will play a none corrupt way with love only when the game is done or enough info is out there for each of the girls and the game to know which way is best.
I am after all the women as long as its best for the game and will chuck any other male.

 

[zARRR]

Its not about right or wrong but which way is best for the best outcome for the game and at this time there is not enough info for that.
1. Who do we side with the king or the brother.
2. Dark elves.
3. Raven.
4. Demons.
5. Gods/deities.
6. Emily's family seems the best is to help each one.
7. Grion and his fucked up shit.
8. And we can not forget the wear wolf cult.
Regardless I will play a none corrupt way with love only when the game is done or enough info is out there for each of the girls and the game to know which way is best.
I am after all the women as long as its best for the game and will chuck any other male.

But it’s pretty much clear then if it is with the women.
1) Most difficult choice, that will probably bring good things and bad things from both sides, and yet it’s clear how their methods

2) Dark elves are evil, fight alongside Gavina and Bianca and don’t let them fall into the goblins

3) Raven is just a bandit, just fight against him, it’s not even that morally questionable.

4) Pretty clear, Sypha is a mischievous devil, if you fuck her in front of Mira you just get shit from ber, but that’s logic

5) Athia: Love no corruption against an evil bitch, Isha corruption slave route with the evil bitch (and going kill bill with all the other deities probably)

6) Of course helping them is the right choice, as all girls after all, are you telling me that leaving Emily to Giron isn’t bad?
It’s shining clear that you doing the quest of the girls, are helping them, while sending them to the NTR option, ain’t so much

7) every action against Giron is clearly the best outcome if you don’t want NTR, and with the mercenary group is pretty linear

8) easy, kill them or interfere with them

See it’s easy.
Defeating them no ntr, dealing with them possible ntr, failing to them ntr

 

[RamirezRJBR]

Its not about right or wrong but which way is best for the best outcome for the game and at this time there is not enough info for that.
1. Who do we side with the king or the brother.
2. Dark elves.
3. Raven.
4. Demons.
5. Gods/deities.
6. Emily's family seems the best is to help each one.
7. Grion and his fucked up shit.
8. And we can not forget the wear wolf cult.
Regardless I will play a none corrupt way with love only when the game is done or enough info is out there for each of the girls and the game to know which way is best.
I am after all the women as long as its best for the game and will chuck any other male.

I don't know if the plot is that obvious/linear like that. In Glew's case, even though he hated her, helping her meant gaining a lot of magical powers. For now, there is no other way. Even if we didn't side with Athia at first, having a lot of magical powers can be decisive throughout the story. And it is also not clear whether up ahead Gwen can be our enemy and Athia our new ally. The doubt between our choices, light or dark, moral or immoral, is what makes the game fun and tense.

 

[odino]

lets see it this way struggle betwen 5 evil
1:eric/giron side
2:van/hekima/raven side
3:isha/MC side
4orc/gromthel
5:dark elve /demon
and cult that is part of one and who know that MC stay with isha or join 1 of 4 other or makes new evil side

and with blow comment its ended with 3 comment above does not needed another full text book to continue it

 

[Yotetar]

Not necessarily. It was understood that family education is responsible for the formation of a child's character, but this is not decisive. There are people who are very well educated in the moral field and are later corrupted, just as there are people who do not have any education and throughout life, only and from their character (which is born with them) they are able to have a high morality regardless of middle where they live. That is, you can even blame the family and the world, but in the end you were the one who made the mistake. Your choice.

I will gonna write this once, and thenif you keep with the topic I will not respond, I dont want the posts be deleted or being banned because of offtopic:


On what part of what I said, I talked about freedom choice in the unit as individual being?

I only told that your parents are responsibles of teaching you what is right and what is wrong, about good & Evil, responsability,morality and rules, that are some basics for the human being when you are a child. Because childs will not know from themselves what is good and what is wrong.

Your parents are responsible to give you enough education to make your own choices in the future(Having freedom).The next is up to you.

If you are asking people what is right and what is wrong, in the world. It means you lack the basics, and you cannot make your own choices, so you are condemned to follow the script of others, instead of being free.

I didnt talk about corruption of human being(but you talk about it because lolz). I didnt said about "If you make bad mistakes blame your family and the world"(and you said it) I didnt even digged depth about "What happens when you are an adult"? But you mention it (because lolz.)

That's it, I am done with the topic, moving on.

About ASWS on some girls I think there is enough information to know what is good and what is evil. I think is pretty clear:


-Do you want to Frisha get fucked by someone who doesn't give a shit, just for their body?You know what is right and what is wrong about this decision.

-Do you want to Bianca and Gavina being fucked by Goblins to breed even more goblins? You know what is the right and wrong about decisions.

-Do you want Ruman fall to murderer that doesnt give a shit about women and fear the orcs? You know what is right and wrong about decisions.

I could continue but it would be repetitive.

The best outcome is subjective and can only be appreciated by every player who makes their own decisions.

 

[Ottoeight]

1) Most difficult choice, that will probably bring good things and bad things from both sides, and yet it’s clear how their methods

Siding with the King or his brother? it's not a difficult choice to make at all.

Arenfield is your village. You, your family and your friends live in it. Foreign and dangerous soldiers built a camp near your village: YOU MUST ERADICATE THEM. As soon as possible.

Secondly, your mercenaries are the only troops in Arenfield, therefore your mercenaries are their first main target.

 

[odino]

Siding with the King or his brother? it's not a difficult choice to make at all.

Arenfield is your village. You, your family and your friends live in it. Foreign and dangerous soldiers built a camp near your village: YOU MUST ERADICATE THEM. As soon as possible.

Secondly, your mercenaries are the only troops in Arenfield, therefore your mercenaries are their first main target.

first MC is refuge from kirlic its not his village second his mercenary are van undercover member bandit was disguise its now explain how they managed to kill all eric soldier and only lyvia and frank survived it was battle betwen 2 brother

 

[zARRR]

I don't know if the plot is that obvious/linear like that. In Glew's case, even though he hated her, helping her meant gaining a lot of magical powers. For now, there is no other way. Even if we didn't side with Athia at first, having a lot of magical powers can be decisive throughout the story. And it is also not clear whether up ahead Gwen can be our enemy and Athia our new ally. The doubt between our choices, light or dark, moral or immoral, is what makes the game fun and tense.

Nah man, if there was a failing route, Chyos would have not put it.
Athia is going to regain magic or to counterattack that bitch.
In the end you can have a game as branched as you want but it needs to take a linear path at some moment.
Don’t need to repeat the things already said.

first MC is refuge from kirlic its not his village second his mercenary are van undercover member bandit was disguise its now explain how they managed to kill all eric soldier and only lyvia and frank survived it was battle betwen 2 brother

First: he lived there for more than 10 years, he has no memory of Kirlic, Arenfield is where he has his friends and women, Arenfield, is his fucking village.

Second: what. The. Fuck.

 

[odino]

sorry i hurt your saint MC that go from one house into another house and promise to marry them to fuck them and so far he not stand on his promise for once and keep switching girls cuz cannot ressit isha deposite inside him

 

[zARRR]

sorry i hurt your saint MC that go from one house into another house and promise to marry them to fuck them and so far he not stand on his promise for once and keep switching girls cuz cannot ressit isha deposite inside him

Whatever you say man, you are clearly deaf to any reason or you just really love to troll, don’t quote back, you are going to the shadow realm of ignored

 

[RamirezRJBR]

sorry i hurt your saint MC that go from one house into another house and promise to marry them to fuck them and so far he not stand on his promise for once and keep switching girls cuz cannot ressit isha deposite inside him

In this regard you are right. With some women Chyros was right leaving the "I love you" and "just having fun like adults" alternatives. As in the cases of Emily and Sabrina, for example. Also adjusted this in the case of Frisha who knowingly knows about other women and doesn't care (for now). However, others you are conditioned to say I love you to progress in the quest and/or sex. As the game is still in development, it would be nice if these alternatives were standardized for all women and saying "I love you" could truly influence the MC's life for better or worse. I haven't closed Bianca until now because I don't know how to say I love you to have sex.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Regarding Julia, I haven't started her quest yet. However, I am not interested in having sex with her, nor in corrupting her, nor in marrying her. But I saw that there is a dialogue between her and the MC where the MC chooses to give her hope or not. What kind of hope? Something like marrying her or something like releasing her from Giron? I want to help her, but without sex, without corruption and without marriage. In friendship! lol

You tell her that you will take her away from her current home, she'll be free from Giron and Yasmine or even Dave who apparently gives her some stares atleast.
She doesn't want to face that new world alone though, so she asks for your companionship.
She isn't askeing for a public relationship but atleast a mental one, I think she is fine to give sex for such a relationship as she is far more open to the MCs advances than most of the girls.

Not necessarily. It was understood that family education is responsible for the formation of a child's character, but this is not decisive. There are people who are very well educated in the moral field and are later corrupted, just as there are people who do not have any education and throughout life, only and from their character (which is born with them) they are able to have a high morality regardless of middle where they live. That is, you can even blame the family and the world, but in the end you were the one who made the mistake. Your choice.

It's more like these people choose to act differently than the way they were raised.
They didn't question which way they should go based on social norm.
Parents are supposed to teach children the social norm, but it's up to them to decide wether or not they agree to them... askeing what the social norm is would be considered a failure in raising a child.

Its not about right or wrong but which way is best for the best outcome for the game and at this time there is not enough info for that.
1. Who do we side with the king or the brother.
2. Dark elves.
3. Raven.
4. Demons.
5. Gods/deities.
6. Emily's family seems the best is to help each one.
7. Grion and his fucked up shit.
8. And we can not forget the wear wolf cult.
Regardless I will play a none corrupt way with love only when the game is done or enough info is out there for each of the girls and the game to know which way is best.
I am after all the women as long as its best for the game and will chuck any other male.

That's entirely up to you... each choice has a meaning in the game as they progress down a road, it's not a question about what is best, but what you want to achieve and how you consider yourself enjoying the road chosen the most.
You will reach an end on each route, the path you take and the Events you can see and enjoy are something that you have to decide on, and the game is very clear about what branching pathes will entail.

In this regard you are right. With some women Chyros was right leaving the "I love you" and "just having fun like adults" alternatives. As in the cases of Emily and Sabrina, for example. Also adjusted this in the case of Frisha who knowingly knows about other women and doesn't care (for now). However, others you are conditioned to say I love you to progress in the quest and/or sex. As the game is still in development, it would be nice if these alternatives were standardized for all women and saying "I love you" could truly influence the MC's life for better or worse. I haven't closed Bianca until now because I don't know how to say I love you to have sex.

Keep training with her and eventually she'll tell MC that she doesn't want to marry a Dwarf anymore, if you accept her feelings you'll tell Gavinah and agree to still visit the enclave in order to atleast have her return to her people... well we know how that ended...