VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Lord_Xanatos]

that could be morello,but yea there are too many

I thought Morello was actually older than Sophia, A man younger than her and a Mob Boss in these modern times? Nah, it's more likely that Morello is older to command the authority and own a Casino plus his other business.

I also agree, there are too many characters, at least L&P is trying or starting to implement the "end of storylines" method for such problems.

Morello's a gangster, probably not the best or "nicest" guy she could fall for. Had Bennett not been an ass he could've filled the "nice, mature guy" role fine, even if he's not as well-off as Liam seems to be.

I agree, Morello could be cultured, well-spoken, and wealthy but the "nicest"??? I don't know, he still needs to portray a Mob boss and not just a Casino Owner so he can't or shouldn't play the nice man Mobster.

The nice guy closer to her age would be pointless, since why would she then cheat on Liam?

I suspect Ellie might be your Emma archetype, just on the incest path.

Hehehe I know! The others must represent what Liam isn't and is not giving Sophia so there could be an opening in her mind for a "temptation" of what Sophia is either curious to experiment in some paths or missing experiencing, which includes incest with her children of course.

I suspect more like Nathalie than Emma.

I just can't see Ellie as sweet and innocent like Emma, exploring her sexuality? fine but innocent nubile? after what she likes in men and logan? hehehe nope, I don't buy that.

Emma wouldn't go to clubs or date men like Logan as Ellie does so I can't see her as innocent. That's why I think she is more like Nathalie even when she talks with Dylan she sounds like someone like Nathalie's personality or sexually matured and less shy than Emma. As for Ellie's lesbian version, I don't know, I don't know her path at all but I think she is the less shy compared to Julia or the other lesbian girl from the pool scene.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sophia doesn't have a dildo. ...

There's no evidence to confirm or deny that. She can tease Sam talking about her dildo, so she may actually have one.

That said, we find out in the Ellie route she prefers oral anyway. Also backed up by the GW sex scene day 11

 

[Old Dog]

Sophia doesn't have a dildo.So, we can say that she was not that desperate or her needs are not very high. With little that Liam gives her it was enough or so she thought. Sophia needs a good fuck experience to "discover" that it can be much better than with Liam.
It's possible that Sophia will accompany Dylan to his defense lessons? This Navy-Seal is ... tempting

Sophia will have her dildo/dildo's in time

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The nice guy closer to her age would be pointless, since why would she then cheat on Liam?

I suspect Ellie might be your Emma archetype, just on the incest path.

For the same reason most people cheat; loss of feeling in the relationship. Not doing the good wife stuff leads to this feeling that their relationship is not what it once was because it lacks passion, romance, and most of all just lacks Liam. If another guy of similar age gave her the kind of attention she seeks from her husband, she'd easily be tempted and this is the role Bennett could have filled had he been a nicer guy.

 

[Old Dog]

If Dylan is sent away till the Aiden tasks are either completed or another solution is found then Dylan has to be away till the tasks are completed or solved.Also what about the other students that Sophia was so concerned about?
Aiden has 10 tasks left so say 2 weeks,in game time,to complete them all.
The earliest Dylan could come back is Day 20 (playable day 13),4 more updates or is Dylan away till Aiden is sorted?
Crazy how so much stuff is connected with Aiden

 

[Alley_Cat]

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Crazy how so much stuff is connected with Aiden

Only for the Dylan route. There needs to be some reason for her to be that depraved to sleep with her son. Aiden just happens to be that vehicle.

I don't believe you need to deal with Aiden at all for the Sam and Ellie routes. Can someone on the Sam route confirm/deny?

 

[HulaMaster]

What ever happened to the two young guys who took Patricia and Sophia's photo and invited them to a museum? Will we see them again or are they out?

 

[Old Dog]

What ever happened to the two young guys who took Patricia and Sophia's photo and invited them to a museum? Will we see them again or are they out?

They will be back Playable day 14

 

[Old Dog]

Only for the Dylan route. There needs to be some reason for her to be that depraved to sleep with her son. Aiden just happens to be that vehicle.

I don't believe you need to deal with Aiden at all for the Sam and Ellie routes. Can someone on the Sam route confirm/deny?

I would of thought that the only way to avoid Aiden was on the good wife route?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

If Dylan is sent away till the Aiden tasks are either completed or another solution is found then Dylan has to be away till the tasks are completed or solved.Also what about the other students that Sophia was so concerned about?
Aiden has 10 tasks left so say 2 weeks,in game time,to complete them all.
The earliest Dylan could come back is Day 20 (playable day 13),4 more updates or is Dylan away till Aiden is sorted?
Crazy how so much stuff is connected with Aiden

Which is why I'm worried that we may get forced NTR. I don't want Sophia to send Dylan to boarding school because I want her to continue doing things with him, but if Aiden wants to start touching her, or have her touch him, it's going to lead to a situation where you're forced into doing one of two things you don't want to do; send Dylan away and miss out on scenes with him at home, or NTR. I hope L&P won't do this, but it seems to be worryingly going down this road because there's no way Aiden doesn't want to do things to her.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I would of thought that the only way to avoid Aiden was on the good wife route?

Nope. Never had to deal with Aiden on the Ellie/Patricia route. I just don't know about the Sam route

 

[armion82]

Hmm, I wonder if this means that the Sophia/Alyssa event is tied to this and if we aren't sending Dylan to boarding school then we won't be choosing between it and the Ellie/Julia event?

It's the other way around probably.
Remember if you send Dylan to a boarding school,Zac doesn't invite Sophia and she and Alyssa doesn't have the conversation about the pussy
About cuting down content-pretty sure the old guys from first side job will be axed.
No way this to happen for Aiden.After all this the biggest story,not counting the incest.

If Dylan is sent away till the Aiden tasks are either completed or another solution is found then Dylan has to be away till the tasks are completed or solved.Also what about the other students that Sophia was so concerned about?
Aiden has 10 tasks left so say 2 weeks,in game time,to complete them all.
The earliest Dylan could come back is Day 20 (playable day 13),4 more updates or is Dylan away till Aiden is sorted?
Crazy how so much stuff is connected with Aiden

You probably mean playable day 20,not 13.There is no way all 10 tasks to be done from day 11 to day 13.

 

[Old Dog]

Nope. Never had to deal with Aiden on the Ellie/Patricia route. I just don't know about the Sam route

Which is why I'm worried that we may get forced NTR. I don't want Sophia to send Dylan to boarding school because I want her to continue doing things with him, but if Aiden wants to start touching her, or have her touch him, it's going to lead to a situation where you're forced into doing one of two things you don't want to do; send Dylan away and miss out on scenes with him at home, or NTR. I hope L&P won't do this, but it seems to be worryingly going down this road because there's no way Aiden doesn't want to do things to her.

The line that had me worried was day 17.That's why this decision! Until then, Aiden's tasks won't be that extreme anyway!
Will all the tasks be not that extreme or just the tasks after day 17 will be extreme?
Open to interpretation but it has me worried


For now, Sophia just has no other chance than either continue Aiden's game or send Dylan away. But sending him away right now (day 17) will open another little interesting storyline. That's why this decision! Until then, Aiden's tasks won't be that extreme anyway!

 

[Old Dog]

It's the other way around probably.
Remember if you send Dylan to a boarding school,Zac doesn't invite Sophia and she and Alyssa doesn't have the conversation about the pussy
About cuting down content-pretty sure the old guys from first side job will be axed.
No way this to happen for Aiden.After all this the biggest story,not counting the incest.

You probably mean playable day 20,not 13.There is no way all 10 tasks to be done from day 11 to day 13.

I never said completed

 

[armion82]

I never said completed
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But if you send Dylan to boarding school you don't need a solution anymore.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I would of thought that the only way to avoid Aiden was on the good wife route?

I just did a quick playthrough on Autoskip, and I managed to get that cello dream thing on the Sam route and didn't accept the Aiden deal at all, same as the Ellie/Patricia route. I might try again, but it may well be possible to a Sam/Ellie playthrough without accepting the Aiden deal too.

 

[lockerxx]

off topic any idea how the emma/dylan/sophie could work we know that emma/dylan close the sophie/dylan path.maybe dylan cheats emma with chistine and sophie goes in her rescue?

 

[nexer]

I never said completed
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So, next Friday Sophia could finished with Aiden. Does Aiden make a mistake calling Sophia?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Deleted my last comment because I may have fudged the dates for this whole Aiden situation, so let me try again and see if I've got this right.

• Playable day 9 (in-game day 16, Monday) is the earliest point Sophia can decide to send Dylan to boarding school and not go through with Aiden's blackmail
• Dylan will eventually be taken to the boarding school on playable day 11 (in-game day 18, Wednesday)
• The "comfortable" way to end the Aiden blackmail will be on playable day 13 (in-game day 20, Friday)
• The second option to end it will be on playable day 18 (in-game day 25, Wednesday)
• Aiden has so far set 3 of the 10 tasks and there are still 2 days left in the week before the "comfortable" option
• Sophia can decide to send Dylan to boarding school at any point during this time.

So, it seems we don't have long before the Aiden situation can be resolved via the "comfortable" option, I just hope it's something good. Quitting her job seems like it could be what happens, but I hope not because it would be sad for her to have to do that because of that little shitstain. Could be that she switches classes but then it doesn't really get rid of him, it just puts him somewhere else and he can still harass Dylan and Zac.

Ideally, Sophia will keep her job and Aiden will be the one removed from the equation, but I guess we just have to wait and see.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

So, next Friday Sophia could finished with Aiden. Does Aiden make a mistake calling Sophia?

Possibly, it would lead to keep evidence, any texts, audio, calls recorded, something that would help Sophia proving that she is being coerced in order to keep her son safe. She tried once recording the conversation but Aiden didn't fall for it so now that Aiden has her number...who knows? Maybe is the "comfortable" solution and the self-defense lesson could be the fight against Aiden.