VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Bane71]

I'm not the person you responded to. But I have the same feelings as he does.

Personally I earn more than $10k a month on my day job, so I'm not jealous of him financially. I actually think it's awesome he's built this game, this novel and he has this level of financial support.

But for me, it's clear as day, whether it's intentional or not, he's milking his patrons with his release schedule. And, a small % of patrons are not happy with him. It's not difficult for that to snow ball from a small % to a large %

I make $ 100,000 a month and I think you are wrong. It's just your opinion against mine! Your accusations of milking are empty and incompetent! Although it can be said and rougher.

 

[Jason1986Z]

Is this game like Being a Dik or Milfy City

no

 

[Bane71]

To bring down the heat of controversy and bring a good mood!

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Have a nice evening everyone!

P.S. There is no desire to argue, but these stupid accusations are excessively annoying!

 

[abram1]

I'm not the person you responded to. But I have the same feelings as he does.

Personally I earn more than $10k a month on my day job, so I'm not jealous of him financially. I actually think it's awesome he's built this game, this novel and he has this level of financial support.

But for me, it's clear as day, whether it's intentional or not, he's milking his patrons with his release schedule. And, a small % of patrons are not happy with him. It's not difficult for that to snow ball from a small % to a large %

First of all, I've no faintest idea why you've decided to split my reply to 2 separate individuals by combining it into the new one, as if I was referring to the guy in your quote. Is that what you're doing at your job, falsifying and manipulating data?
I'm not a weatherman, but if it's that clear, good for you, man.

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Your wishful thinking sort of contradicts this info. The amount of his patrons is still going up and unless he screws up his project royally he'll only gain new backers.

How do I increase the score with Ivanka? The guard does not allow me to enter the building

Well, I have sad news for you, son. Donald has left the building alongside with Jared, so of course the security service won't let you in. And I'm pretty sure Ivanka isn't in the Oval Office anymore except uncle Joe increasing his score with her.

 

[Lust&Pateron]

First of all, I've no faintest idea why you've decided to split my reply to 2 separate individuals by combining it into the new one, as if I was referring to the guy in your quote. Is that what you're doing at your job, falsifying and manipulating data?
I'm not a weatherman, but if it's that clear, good for you, man.

You must be registered to see the links

Your wishful thinking sort of contradicts this info. The amount of his patrons is still going up and unless he screws up his project royally he'll only gain new backers.


Well, I have sad news for you, son. Donald has left the building alongside with Jared, so of course the security service won't let you in. And I'm pretty sure Ivanka isn't in the Oval Office anymore except uncle Joe increasing his score with her.

Well the website you sent, shows he's lost 150 patrons. So confirming what I'm saying

Anyway, are you happy with a game taking 10 years to be made? And paying $100 + for that wait.

 

[Satburn]

Well the website you sent, shows he's lost 150 patrons. So confirming what I'm saying

Anyway, are you happy with a game taking 10 years to be made? And paying $100 + for that wait.

From what I have read elsewhere, a developer will often get new patrons just before an update comes out, so they will be first in line to get the new update, after that they then leave the developer.

So this may have happened in this case.

 

[Lust&Pateron]

You talk like a dog every step of the way! The game is created only 3 years, not 10 years!

When is the game going to be complete?

 

[Bane71]

When is the game going to be complete?

It is not known today.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Well the website you sent, shows he's lost 150 patrons. So confirming what I'm saying

Anyway, are you happy with a game taking 10 years to be made? And paying $100 + for that wait.

It's common for devs, both big and small, to lose patrons before the start of a month since this is when Patreon takes payments. Their numbers will then tick up during the next few months as people rejoin in anticipation of updates or because they can now afford to restart their support.

You talk like a dog every step of the way! The game is created only 3 years, not 10 years!

3 years so far (2 for the current Ren'py version), but at the current rate of development, if each day continues to have as many events and side stories in it, it will take more than 10 years to be completed.

But whilst we're on the subject, let's just remind ourselves of how long this game potentially might take, but first, some contextual info:

• Between 0.100 and 0.115, there were roughly 3 months
• L&P has said days will now be split in threes; Morning, Noon/Afternoon, Evening/Night
• There are going to be 30 playable days and we've just started Day 12
• We know that playable Day 15 will be one long event (Sophia and Patricia horse-riding event)
• L&P has said some updates may have 2 times of day in 1 if the events are relatively small, i.e. an update may have the Morning and Noon/Afternoon events.

So, now the maths:

• 17 playable days remaining
• Assuming each gets 3 updates, that's 51 more updates
• Assuming these take 3 months each to be completed, that's 153 months (12 years, 9 months)
• 2 more updates potentially remaining for playable day 12 (153+6 = 159 = 13 years, 3 months)
• Playable day 15 will be one single update (159+3 = 162 = 13 years, 6 months).

So, at most, this game will be done some time in 2034 at its current rate of development.

Now, it's possible that as the game progresses, certain plot threads and characters will be gone, others may merge, and this may reduce the number of events per day thus resulting in each playable day being in just a single update each. There's also the possibility that some updates will have the events of different times of day in them. If this were to be the case then it would be take considerably less time for the game to be completed, but right now we can only base our prediction on the game's current development structure and pace, and this is what it looks like.

 

[Bane71]

3 years so far (2 for the current Ren'py version), but at the current rate of development, if each day continues to have as many events and side stories in it, it will take more than 10 years to be completed.

This can be assumed! And when asserting this, it is necessary to indicate that this is an assumption, and not an established fact!

 

[abram1]

Well the website you sent, shows he's lost 150 patrons. So confirming what I'm saying

Anyway, are you happy with a game taking 10 years to be made? And paying $100 + for that wait.

Do you even know what an uptrend is? Or an exponential growth? We may both look at the same graphs seeing different data. I highly recommend clicking on the "All" button before jumping to any conclusions. Or is that way too tough to grasp for a guy making more than $10k per month?
I'm paying jack shit for this game, pirating it from this forum like the most of us, let's start calling things by their names, so where did you get the $100 number, I wonder? My life, shock and awe, doesn't revolve around AWAM, so the timing is irrelevant to me. If I need to wank, I'll find other means to do that.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

This can be assumed! And when asserting this, it is necessary to indicate that this is an assumption, and not an established fact!

The only thing that can't be established is whether or not the number of events per day will lessen as the days progress in the game. However, if things continue as they are right now, those numbers will be fairly accurate because it's maths, and the maths doesn't lie here.

Even if L&P were to get the events per day down to around 3 or 4 from Day 20 onwards allowing them to produce one full day per update, you're still looking at around 2028 as the completion at the earliest.

As I said, the maths doesn't lie.

 

[brainman]

The idea that 10 years has stopped being a joke and has slid into becoming an established fact is pretty damn funny. Undertale, Stardew valley, Braid, there are countless more examples of fully completed games that have been completed in near the same amount of time as AWAM has been in development. All with a one person dev team. If you really believe that AWAM is so intricate and expansive that it will take longer to develop then games like that then your just delusional at this point.

 

[Bane71]

The only thing that can't be established is whether or not the number of events per day will lessen as the days progress in the game. However, if things continue as they are right now, those numbers will be fairly accurate because it's maths, and the maths doesn't lie here.

Even if L&P were to get the events per day down to around 3 or 4 from Day 20 onwards allowing them to produce one full day per update, you're still looking at around 2028 as the completion at the earliest.

As I said, the maths doesn't lie.

Listen, I've read clever, sensible things from you more than once, but now it's as if a completely different, unintelligent youngster is writing! Is it you?

How seriously can you say that if he shortens the plots and the like?
And we can probably say that the development of the game will take 10 years or more! But on one condition! If nothing changes! Do you understand this?

So who can give any guarantees for tomorrow? This is incredible stupidity. Sorry, but I can't understand this.

This has nothing to do with math! Everything can change tomorrow! Not to mention the fact that tomorrow may not come for some of us. ((

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report. Ver. 0.130

45% - 40%
0% - 0%

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Listen, I've read clever, sensible things from you more than once, but now it's as if a completely different, unintelligent youngster is writing! Is it you?

How seriously can you say that if he shortens the plots and the like?
And we can probably say that the development of the game will take 10 years or more! But on one condition! If nothing changes! Do you understand this?

So who can give any guarantees for tomorrow? This is incredible stupidity. Sorry, but I can't understand this.

This has nothing to do with math! Everything can change tomorrow! Not to mention the fact that tomorrow may not come for some of us. ((

And I'm not really sure what you're saying here, but to try and explain it once more, what I'm saying is that if things keep going the way that they are (L&P working as a one-man team, updates being 1/3 of each playable day, each update taking around 3-4 months each), then mathematically speaking, it will take more than 10 years to be completed. Those numbers and calculations do not lie.

Unless L&P can figure out a way to produce their renders faster (lighting, posing, set designing, etc), or they hire people to help them (unlikely), or if they are somehow able to get the updates down to one full playable day per update at some point, once certain side stories have played out and all that's left are the core characters, it's really not going to be done any sooner and will likely take as long as I've calculated.

 

[Bane71]

And I'm not really sure what you're saying here, but to try and explain it once more, what I'm saying is that if things keep going the way that they are (L&P working as a one-man team, updates being 1/3 of each playable day, each update taking around 3-4 months each), then mathematically speaking, it will take more than 10 years to be completed. Those numbers and calculations do not lie.

Unless L&P can figure out a way to produce their renders faster (lighting, posing, set designing, etc), or they hire people to help them (unlikely), or if they are somehow able to get the updates down to one full playable day per update at some point, once certain side stories have played out and all that's left are the core characters, it's really not going to be done any sooner and will likely take as long as I've calculated.

Your clarification radically changes the essence of your statement and it is impossible not to agree with it.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Progress Report.
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I'm still feeling pretty good about an early April release.

 

[abram1]

Not to mention the fact that tomorrow may not come for some of us. ((

NOOOO! Please, I beg you, tell us, give us some hints or signs.
Is Skynet about to launch its nukes?
Or the asteroid is about to collide with this planet from the blindspot?
Is it too late already to sign up for the SpaceX program?
To what god should I pray, to all of them at once or is there any particular order?
AWAM won't be completed by tomorrow, does that mean we've lived our lives in vain?
Is your source of info credible, can we trust him/her?
Don't make me wait, tomorrow is nigh. Should I get high if the end is nigh?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

How do I increase the score with Ivanka? The guard does not allow me to enter the building

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