VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

It is not quite what I say.

To think 'Choose between the (best) quality and the (best) quantity is a false dilemma' and do it, it's even a big mistake.
I'm saying, you can have decent quality, decent quality, and decent delivery time.

And that's one problem that will not come across with L&P. I would have to conclude that the word decent doesn't exist to him based on the text from his Patreon page.

L&P's Patreon:
After seeing so many lower-quality adult games, the primary goal is to show as much skin or as many h scenes as possible right from the beginning, without any good story or character development (and not even good or authentic renders!)! So, I've decided to develop my own ambitious, realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused adult game, which has become like a little obsession.

Just using a couple of words in there like realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused phase the word decent out.

No one can be 100% on everything, but saying I have reached 85% of what i think is the best, on time, quantity, quality, story, that's sane.

We are talking about L&P here.
Equation > L&P * OCD = 100%

The quality of its renderings is already more than decent. But by choosing 100% on quality and quantity, we can all see that the delays are significantly longer.

The best picture is long-distance running : if you go to your max (heart rate, speed, breathing, ...), you will not have a good result in the end, you will be tired and demotivated before the finish line, you may even not finish the race due to injury, hyper-ventilation, respiratory failure or worse.

I don't have to convince L&P, it's up to him to figure it out, if not... whatever, it's not that I don't care, but almost.

Yeah, L&P doesn't really settle for decent. However, some animated rendering scenes surprised me in the condition they were in and it confused me (Liam & Sophia's Bedroom scene after the hot tub and Sophia riding "Antonio") as he only looped 4 frames on both if I can recall that correctly.

The long-distance analogy I can agree with as his scenes keep growing and growing. The finish line will keep moving exponentially as he doesn't have a stopping point. I mean going from 1 full day > 2 - half days > 3 - one-third days but the renders/cs keeps increasing.

 

[armion82]

Well, When L&P makes a statement like Quantity is the byproduct of Quality, How do you convince him otherwise? When he creates a "Quality" Scene it may have 10 CS/renders, He may say all ten are needed to achieve the quality he wants for that scene. However, you look at the same scene with 10 CS/renders that he created, and you conclude that 4 out of 10 CS/renders are needed and the other 6 are redundant but you feel he can achieve or keep the same level of quality.

How do you convince him of that?

I really hope,when we finally reach sex scenes with other characters,he will pay same attention.
So far all sex scenes with Liam are lackluster.Barely anything to see there.

 

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[Cold brew]

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I'll let you decide what L&P is saying here. Some might think this is a cryptic response.

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See!! Dylan the cockblocker is at it again!! FCK! FCK! FCK!
I blame him. You know he is at fault with everything with Aiden. Just so everyone knows, Dylan also whispers "we need more pigeons" and "Add another pigeon lady in the park in addition of Sophia... by the bench would be good". Meanwhile, we are left yelling and pounding on the thick glass in the background. "Don't let Dylan turn Sophia into a bird lady! Sophia is not a BIRDLADY!!"
He is at fault for everything delaying this update. It is ok for everyone to acknowledge the absolute fact now that without Dylan the update would be complete. Just sending him to an all boys football/soccer academy in another country would solve everything and save L&P from all drama. Dylan has established what he needed for the story and keeping him in a central role is a mistake. The story is about Sophia and it is not all about Dylan. Considering this L&P would have no need for assistance or debates on quality over quantity. But now we get to wait so we can see him introduced to Emma, I am so excited.

That little cockblocker...

 

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It's funny how sophia can kill the shota boys, chop them into pieces, cook them and server to Ava for dessert and still LP don't break any Patreon rule. But if she show them a half of a quarter of her
breasts LP could be completely banned.

 

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[Alley_Cat]

"we need more pigeons"
Do you know what we need ?

'we get to wait so we can see him introduced to Emma'

Maybe Emma will ignore him, because she loves Sophie ! or she will be interested to have more opportunity to see Sophie, who knows ?

I do find it strange that L&P creates interesting female characters as LIs for Sophia, and then in Emma's case (and to a lesser extent Marie too) makes them an LI for Dylan instead, when even he doesn't like the idea.

 

[Cold brew]

"we need more pigeons"
Do you know what we need ?

'we get to wait so we can see him introduced to Emma'

Maybe Emma will ignore him, because she loves Sophie ! or she will be interested to have more opportunity to see Sophie, who knows ?

Got Triggered... Thanks for the prescription.
You saved the rest of my day. More Cowbell!!

"Maybe Emma will ignore him..." Nice. Thank you!

 

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[Kodek]

I do find it strange that L&P creates interesting female characters as LIs for Sophia, and then in Emma's case (and to a lesser extent Marie too) makes them an LI for Dylan instead, when even he doesn't like the idea.

It's the power of the Dylan wave that we all know and love.

And i fear that it's just Dylan in this case as Dylan IS at least important to the game, but add someone like Deshawn (who adds NOTHING to the game btw and only removes time and interactions with Vicky) and then there's no excuses, i will actually bite my hand off if they introduce Nathalie's boyfriend in the same way too.

 

[Alley_Cat]

don't know, really
There is also Julia with a story of separation with Ellie.
Marie looks more interested in Sophia rather than Dylan.
Patricia is the one who perverts, but is she going to sleep with Sophia or Dylan ?
I like Amber too...

I am in the fog

Julia separating from Ellie? Where did you hear that? Although I am curious what will happen with Jules on day 16 with the Ellie/Sam branch that seems to be setting up with the concert.
Anything significant with Patricia/Dylan is a non-starter with Patricia's "no dick in the pussy" rule.
Amber has never been an LI for Sophia, but Dylan/Amber is confirmed.

It's the power of the Dylan wave that we all know and love.

And i fear that it's just Dylan in this case as Dylan IS at least important to the game, but add someone like Deshawn (who adds NOTHING to the game btw and only removes time and interactions with Vicky) and then there's no excuses, i will actually bite my hand off if they introduce Nathalie's boyfriend in the same way too.

I'm more making the point is that there is no reason to have them be able to get Lesbian Temptation points if they're ultimately LIs for a male character.

 

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[Kodek]

I'm more making the point is that there is no reason to have them be able to get Lesbian Temptation points if they're ultimately LIs for a male character.

Oh, got that. But i still don't like seeing lesbian temptation characters getting scenes with guys, there are very few of them already and they are getting shipped to other LIs or having to choose between two female characters too (Ellie and Alyssa).

I think in Julie's case, if we go down on Ellie/Sam route or a slutty Ellie (which have some flags already, at least i see them), she will maybe go down to Sophia's lesbian route as well? She was originally Ellie's LI exclusively, but Ellie got her with Sophia... so this could mean something.

 

[Cold brew]

Julia separating from Ellie? Where did you hear that? Although I am curious what will happen with Jules on day 16 with the Ellie/Sam branch that seems to be setting up with the concert.
Anything significant with Patricia/Dylan is a non-starter with Patricia's "no dick in the pussy" rule.
Amber has never been an LI for Sophia, but Dylan/Amber is confirmed.


I'm more making the point is that there is no reason to have them be able to get Lesbian Temptation points if they're ultimately LIs for a male character.

This got me thinking more about Patricia. Another perspective to wonder about.
Patricia could be hyper aware of the sexual tensions around Sophia and others I suppose. Looking for future opportunities to add the right partners for her open relationship. Wasn't totally sold on Patricia's rule statement. It could be true but it also could be the more acceptable statement she could make socially at the time. Open to possibilities making it more acceptable. However, maybe the rule is true. Then Patricia hard crushing on Sophia and pushing her buttons take on a more specific meaning.
I never really focused much on Patricia in the past but I have to admit she is playing a role here and it is not minor.

 

[Cold brew]

don't know, really
There is also Julia with a story of separation with Ellie.
Marie looks more interested in Sophia rather than Dylan.
Patricia is the one who perverts, but is she going to sleep with Sophia or Dylan ?
I like Amber too...

I am in the fog

I would like to walk into that fog very much. This kind of fog causes shipwrecks.

 

[Alley_Cat]

This got me thinking more about Patricia. Another perspective to wonder about.
Patricia could be hyper aware of the sexual tensions around Sophia and others I suppose. Looking for future opportunities to add the right partners for her open relationship. Wasn't totally sold on Patricia's rule statement. It could be true but it also could be the more acceptable statement she could make socially at the time. Open to possibilities making it more acceptable. However, maybe the rule is true. Then Patricia hard crushing on Sophia and pushing her buttons take on a more specific meaning.
I never really focused much on Patricia in the past but I have to admit she is playing a role here and it is not minor.

Look at it this way: Carl is rich and influential. As I've said before, he thinks nothing of throwing money at lawyers to help out with Dylan's Aiden problem. He also knows that Patricia is a shameless flirt. So the rule is the understanding that at the end of the day, Patricia is still going to come home to him. And why would she risk their relationship and all the money he throws at her by breaking the rule? The only one she's emotionally connected to enough to tempt her so far is Sophia, and she doesn't break the rule, since she doesn't have a dick in the first place.

Patricia hasn't cheated on Carl yet that we're aware of (although I kinda wonder if she's ever fooled around with Claire).

 

[Cesar43]

Hola, salió una versión 130, del juego esposa y madre ?? Agradezco la ayuda