VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[JJVOODOO]

anyway to make it so you dont have to name your saves?

 

[BorgiaBou]

so i will definitely not see the end of the game at the current pace. 18 match dayseach 18 months is 27 years. i would have to be 94 years old.

Holy shite man don't you need to be playing with your gradchildren or something and not be here...

 

[palmtrees89]

i think the same even is update was going "fast"until the big concert with 18 people.still we got the last event with a new Location i guess the Apartment of Andy/cathy.but is a small event.

I still don't see the release happening this year. Once L&P starts working on the new location for the Andy/Cathy event, progress is gonna come to another halt, leaving us with pretty much no progression for another 2-3 weeks. After that, there's going to be the usual translation issues, power outages, missing socks, wardrobe malfunctions, 2 week vacation in hawaii and his goldfish eating the harddrives. And after Santa Claus put his apartment on fire for being a bad boy, he'll only be able to continue working on the game in January, which leaves us with a release in mid February 2022.

 

[lockerxx]

I still don't see the release happening this year. Once L&P starts working on the new location for the Andy/Cathy event, progress is gonna come to another halt, leaving us with pretty much no progression for another 2-3 weeks. After that, there's going to be the usual translation issues, power outages, missing socks, wardrobe malfunctions, 2 week vacation in hawaii and his goldfish eating the harddrives. And after Santa Claus put his apartment on fire for being a bad boy, he'll only be able to continue working on the game in January, which leaves us with a release in mid February 2022.

way too long late november looks good december like worst case.maybe if he had again like 46 pages of plot

 

[Alley_Cat]

I still don't see the release happening this year. Once L&P starts working on the new location for the Andy/Cathy event, progress is gonna come to another halt, leaving us with pretty much no progression for another 2-3 weeks. After that, there's going to be the usual translation issues, power outages, missing socks, wardrobe malfunctions, 2 week vacation in hawaii and his goldfish eating the harddrives. And after Santa Claus put his apartment on fire for being a bad boy, he'll only be able to continue working on the game in January, which leaves us with a release in mid February 2022.

Assuming Cathy and Andy's apartment is a new location. For all we know, Cathy and Andy could be neighbours with Alyssa. So, change the rug, wallpaper, etc and it looks a bit different from Alyssa's, and he's only spent about 30 mins.

Of course, that's best-case scenario.

 

[Old Dog]

Assuming Cathy and Andy's apartment is a new location. For all we know, Cathy and Andy could be neighbours with Alyssa. So, change the rug, wallpaper, etc and it looks a bit different from Alyssa's, and he's only spent about 30 mins.

Of course, that's best-case scenario.

I was thinking the same thing,we can hope.

 

[mulerider]

Excuse me, could you explain the difference to me? I will be very grateful.

to me, they are pretty much the same thing

 

[leg28]

The game is in no mans land. I agree with you that the 5+ month development cycles aren't the crux of the problem. Instead the problem is that it takes 5+ months and nothing/very little happens. This game lives in the details, so it's going to be really difficult to change the pacing of the game, even if he were to cut everything right to the bone. He doesn't want this game to be nothing but scenes with Dylan, Ellie, and Aiden; and I applaud him for that. It's good to mix the game up and have stories that crisscross one another. It's also good (on paper) that multiple days can go by without seeing a major character, that helps keep things fresh. I recently tried to play a game but quit because literally every scene was with the LI and no one else. After awhile it was just boring that every single conversation had to be so sexually charged. And a lot of game suffer from that. But not AWAM, but it has swung too far in the other direction. We have scenes and characters that are nice but do little but delay progress with the characters we'd rather be spending time with. And since each update covers such a small proportion of the game, and each update takes so long to come out, it's frustrating that everything moves sooooo slowly.

But now I'm just bitching and I don't want to do that. I've mulled over this topic for a long time, and I know we've discussed it to death; but I still think the only way to move the story forward quickly without sacrificing too much of what makes this game unique is to use time jumps. I know it's complicated, and that story lines could get mishandled in the process, but there just doesn't seem to be that much fat to cut. Yeah, you could cut the two side jobs, and that would save a lot of time, but if you start cutting other characters then you're treading on thin ice. I'd rather he cut the two side jobs and then focus on some well positioned time jumps to get the story moving a little. Instead of cutting "fat" he could prioritize and structure the scenes that we're only seeing the important ones. So, for example, Ellie isn't having a shower with Sophia every day- but every time we see her in the morning it is for a shower. We could also consolidate scenes so that something important happens in each one. Right now there are scenes that only add details for the future, but contribute little for titillation or entertainment. If the time jump could eliminate these scenes and consolidate them into other scenes that are simply more entertaining, I think that would be a huge win.

In the end I think no option is great. It's just the nature of how he has structured the game. There is a lot to learn from AWAM about how to structure a slow burn and how to reign in your ambition. I'd really like to make a voyeurism game, but since I don't know DAZ that seems impossible. But anytime I really think about it I find myself really using AWAM as one of the primary guides for what, and what not, to do.

Note- Maybe splitting the game up into seasons would be something that could work. Maybe changing the landmarks would help with expectations and anticipation. Right now most people are frustrated that sex is likely 7+ years away. But what if a season-ending climax could be reached in say 2 years? It wouldn't include sex, but with some restructuring maybe it could be something sexy, dramatic, and attainable. The problem that most of us have is that so much of what this game offers feels unattainable because it's too many years away. But what if a season ending climatic event could be achieved that would act as a pressure relief valve? Maybe setting more short term goals and adding more sexual content than what currently exists would be a good compromise.

Or maybe I'm writing too much.

no changes will happen since dev's milking business works perfect. want progress? cut his finances. like when you cut allowance from lazy teen who won't do chores. this is the only language milkmen like him understand
about seasons and suggestions that we wait season climax in 2 yrs that wouldn't include sex: sorry but wtf are you talking about? it is adult game, sex is necessary part of it. waiting for 2 years that sex finally happen in adult game is riddiculous. i liked slow corruption progress in the very beginning but after year of mc's pretentious internal dilemmas and mental blue-balling it was time to tell him either put up or shut up. chance is misseed and consequences are visible: 2-3 updates per year with no sexual content. just teasers to enhance milking industry. he is opening routes for all available adult kinks but mostly stops with mc's internal process of situation and +1 bad wife/lesbian point. any main stream romance, non-adult novel has more sexual, erotic content inside than this so-called adult novel

 

[Bishop Robert]

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On day 3, when Sophia is talking to Amber before the guitar lesson. Not that it's much of a hint. If Juls' room is next to Sam's at the rear of the house, she's got almost the same view of the backyard. It's just not as obvious.

Sophia: "Reminds me of my own childhood and the 'truth or dare' games!"

Alright yeah something at some some point will happen in the treehouse.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sophia: "Reminds me of my own childhood and the 'truth or dare' games!"

Alright yeah something at some some point will happen in the treehouse.

Something is planned for the treehouse. Whether it's this update, or playable day 13, at some point in the future we never get to because the game is cancelled is anyone's guess.

 

[Old Dog]

Something is planned for the treehouse. Whether it's this update, or playable day 13, at some point in the future we never get to because the game is cancelled is anyone's guess.

Well, if/when it does happen, I can't really see Sophia climbing up there so I guess maybe somebody peeping on some one.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Well, if/when it does happen, I can't really see Sophia climbing up there so I guess maybe somebody peeping on some one.

I don't know, don't show her climbing up the tree?

But since L&P is L&P we will probably get that as a pointless render.

 

[Old Dog]

I don't know, don't show her climbing up the tree?

But since L&P is L&P we will probably get that as a pointless render.

Or he will use it in a POV event like he did on the 2nd part of the yoga event,even more renders.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Or he will use it in a POV event like he did on the 2nd part of the yoga event,even more renders.

Who's the other POV?

 

[Old Dog]

Who's the other POV?

Could be Dylan/Sam or maybe Julia,who knows

 

[TomUK]

The Office, Anna Exciting Affection, Fashion Business, Good girl gone bad, Lisa...

Use the search engine, with all tags you want (female protagonist + corruption) and sort the results

I quite like "ProjectMyriamLifeandExplorations", also "The Office Wife", "Lily of the Valley" all female protagonists.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Something is planned for the treehouse. Whether it's this update, or playable day 13, at some point in the future we never get to because the game is cancelled is anyone's guess.

I have no doubt that, at some point, Sam is going to have permission from Sophia to watch her from his tree house.

 

[BRTT]

in a while this game will be abandoned just because it's too boring it doesn't get anywhere

 

[I_Love_Moms]

I quite like "ProjectMyriamLifeandExplorations", also "The Office Wife", "Lily of the Valley" all female protagonists.

Watch out for Le Desir by Wild Candy Productions. The game has only had one release but looks promising. I'm not sure how the dev will live up to the expectations but it looks good for now.

 

[theEmirate43]

Lmao 2 years for something that we hope will be good? Miss me with that shit