VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Notretsam]

slow corruption is fine, but can he just add filler sex story like amber-neil, patricia-carl, liam with his models for example, ellie - her boyfriend

this is a fair point and a great suggestion, would allow developer to add sex scenes without going to fast with corruption.

although if you seeing it from MC perspective, only option logically is her catching and spying on people having sex.

it is fair to say that this is a erotic visual novel and therefore a sex scene isn't the only option to show erotic stuff in game, if you think that way, there is actually A LOT of erotic content in this game, there is just no sex scene with MC.

I do expect a sex scene within the next 3 months, and think we are getting close to pretty much every update having some sort of sex scene, developer established a lot of characters and story branches now.

 

[Creeping Death]

This thread is now a perpetuum mobile thread about AWAM release schedules/amount of content. One moment you think the x-th revision of this topic is now settled, new members (and old) starting it again. I will take a break from this thread, it became boring and annoying reading over and over the same shit which no one here will change.

 

[Notretsam]

This thread is now a perpetuum mobile thread about AWAM releases schedule/amount of content. One moment you think the x-th revision of this topic is now settled, new members (and old) starting it again. I will take a break from this thread, it became boring and annoying reading over and over the same shit which no one here will change.

yeah can't deny its getting a bit repetitive but I can't help myself, plus I find this topic interesting as I think this vn is a great lesson for other developers.

 

[Angmir]

So, you think people who are complaining about the slow pace are few idiots? they are complaining about something they are seeing right now. As you defend guesses and promises of the dev and nothing else. I am sure that you and all those who defend this dev will be very disappointed after several years of expectations and hope to see the birth of a masterpiece. And at that moment the only idiot and fool here would be you and no one else.

Yeah I think that.

Because in the story right now there is no room for straight up sex.

Only justifiable vaginal sex that could happen in the story at this point is:
A straight up rape
B sex with husband - that is compleatly unnecessery in corruption game.

But that is besides the point.

And that Point is - Author has the whole story pre-planned from the very begining ! All event are mapped and structured into cohesive story. He had it planned 2 years ago when the sex scenes are going to happen, and restructuring that story on the fly just to please the crowd of simpletons that lack imagination would be worst thing he could do.

So man up people or move on.

 

[Angmir]

I think there's a difference between a story developing too slow and a game being developed too slow.

Storywise I think the pacing is just about right. It's a story about a woman slowly awakening to a world of moral gray zones, if she went from "oh, I love my husband and want to stay true only to him" to "gimme cock and pussy" in a matter of days or even weeks, it would be something like a cheap porn flic, not a real story.

Now, as for the development speed, I can see people complaining about that.
I mean, I'm content to wait for the quality of renders and writing I get here, but I do understand that people are frustrated with the seemingly snail pace the updates come along.

Exacly how I see it.

 

[Angmir]

this is a fair point and a great suggestion, would allow developer to add sex scenes without going to fast with corruption.

although if you seeing it from MC perspective, only option logically is her catching and spying on people having sex.

it is fair to say that this is a erotic visual novel and therefore a sex scene isn't the only option to show erotic stuff in game, if you think that way, there is actually A LOT of erotic content in this game, there is just no sex scene with MC.

I do expect a sex scene within the next 3 months, and think we are getting close to pretty much every update having some sort of sex scene, developer established a lot of characters and story branches now.

Look how the impacient bunch of people reacted to this Amber x Neil scene.

They were outraged - that only sex scene is among some "insignificant characters".
Theese people will keep on complaining no matter what. Most of them probably just fast forwards the text and just looks at the pictures ...

But what is even more important - making a side scenes like that each update will further slow down production of the game by A LOT. A decent sex scene could take as much as 2 additional weeks of production time (seeing the pace at which he works).

This is not a solution at all.

And I have to dissapoint your prediction.

There wont be sex scene with Sophia in next 2 updates for sure - Author has published a scene schedule for next 3 in game days - and there is no sex in plans for this time. But we are entering into a territory where some other kinds of sexual content will begin to show at last.

Eighter way - I dont think "waiting for Sophia to finaly have sex" isnt the best mindset for people, as they are going to get dissapointed.
"Waiting to see how the story will unfold" is much healthier.

 

[Notretsam]

Look how the impacient bunch of people reacted to this Amber x Neil scene.

They were outraged - that only sex scene is among some "insignificant characters".
Theese people will keep on complaining no matter what. Most of them probably just fast forwards the text and just looks at the pictures ...

But what is even more important - making a side scenes like that each update will further slow down production of the game by A LOT. A decent sex scene could take as much as 2 additional weeks of production time (seeing the pace at which he works).

This is not a solution at all.

And I have to dissapoint your prediction.

There wont be sex scene with Sophia in next 2 updates for sure - Author has published a scene schedule for next 3 in game days - and there is no sex in plans for this time. But we are entering into a territory where some other kinds of sexual content will begin to show at last.

Eighter way - I dont think "waiting for Sophia to finaly have sex" isnt the best mindset for people, as they are going to get dissapointed.
"Waiting to see how the story will unfold" is much healthier.

solution of other characters having sex is a solution that was presented to resolve the issue some have with no sex scene, whether you agree with it or not, any type of sex scene would be a solution to the complaints, so therefore it is a solution.

I don't know if they next 2 updates covers the next 3 months of updates, but I stated within 3 months for sex scene, in other posts I have stated people should show patience like you have as well.

however I have also stated that between 3 to 6 months, maybe I be proven wrong and peoples complaints are right.

otherwise I expect a sex scene with the MC (Sophia) within the next 3 updates or within 6 months at most, I truly believe the story is naturally close to the point of that happening.

As for you saying "waiting for Sophia to finally have sex" , well of course they are, the whole point of the slow corruption of her, is so she eventually becomes corrupted and pretty much becomes the complete opposite of who she originally was, therefore has regular sex with variety of people.

I personally trust the developers vision and maybe the story isn't going to develop into her pretty much having sex with loads of people, maybe whatever dev does will be just as good, but the whole point of choosing filthy route, is to lead her to becoming filthy.

 

[jack_daniels_]

any news on patreon about the update?

 

[penmaster]

There should be a blackmailroute

 

[lockerxx]

any news on patreon about the update?

end of the month between 24 and 28.

 

[Angmir]

As for you saying "waiting for Sophia to finally have sex" , well of course they are, the whole point of the slow corruption of her, is so she eventually becomes corrupted and pretty much becomes the complete opposite of who she originally was, therefore has regular sex with variety of people.

I personally trust the developers vision and maybe the story isn't going to develop into her pretty much having sex with loads of people, maybe whatever dev does will be just as good, but the whole point of choosing filthy route, is to lead her to becoming filthy.

1. Waiting for sex scenes is just a bad midset - it leads to frustration. Frustration leads to Anger, Anger leads to Violance and Violance is a path of the Dark Side ...

But seriously - it is wrong becouse it makes it feel like that 1 sex scenes is end goal of the game - and I god hope it is not. Sex scenes should be just parts of the overall story not a reward or checkpoint because that makes it feel gamey and stupid.

2. As for your second point here - about filthy route beeing not filthy enough.
I told this to developer at the begining that the whole split into Good Wife / Bad Wife just doesnt work. The routes are only ilusionary btw, as there is no branching of the storyline at all.

It is more like one route when you can eighter play it right - and collect Filthy points, or fail at playing the game and chose Good wife choices - that makes you skip 2/3 of the events.

So yeah - IMO there is no Filthy Wife route. There is single Route in the game that can be played more or less successfull ...

 

[nexer]

Sophia needs a "push". She has a "underwear deal" with Dylan which can go to a bit more and Sam could show up. A way to "a kind" of blackmail which could break up her resistence.

 

[momojean]

Yeah I think that.

Because in the story right now there is no room for straight up sex.

Only justifiable vaginal sex that could happen in the story at this point is:
A straight up rape
B sex with husband - that is compleatly unnecessery in corruption game.

But that is besides the point.

And that Point is - Author has the whole story pre-planned from the very begining ! All event are mapped and structured into cohesive story. He had it planned 2 years ago when the sex scenes are going to happen, and restructuring that story on the fly just to please the crowd of simpletons that lack imagination would be worst thing he could do.

So man up people or move on.

unless you are his close collaborator, there is nothing to prove that he has written everything from scratch except his words. and if it were true and if he was so organized that he would be able to control the time between updates. But at the beginning he had promised monthly updates (playable day) and now it takes him 3.5 months and maybe more in the future. it proves that he does not plan anything and he does not control anything. And as I said before the only thing he decided at the beginning is how long his game will last and what is the amount he has to earn at the end of the project. after that he has to fill the game with endless slices of life, dialogues, useless side stories and tons of characters as the game progresses. and that's exactly what he's doing right now. these are my convictions. I know yours are different. only time will show us who's right ... maybe in 4 or 5 years.

 

[Notretsam]

1. Waiting for sex scenes is just a bad midset - it leads to frustration. Frustration leads to Anger, Anger leads to Violance and Violance is a path of the Dark Side ...

But seriously - it is wrong becouse it makes it feel like that 1 sex scenes is end goal of the game - and I god hope it is not. Sex scenes should be just parts of the overall story not a reward or checkpoint because that makes it feel gamey and stupid.

2. As for your second point here - about filthy route beeing not filthy enough.
I told this to developer at the begining that the whole split into Good Wife / Bad Wife just doesnt work. The routes are only ilusionary btw, as there is no branching of the storyline at all.

It is more like one route when you can eighter play it right - and collect Filthy points, or fail at playing the game and chose Good wife choices - that makes you skip 2/3 of the events.

So yeah - IMO there is no Filthy Wife route. There is single Route in the game that can be played more or less successfull ...

please don't misquote or misrepresent my posts

I never said filthy was not filthy enough and I never said I was waiting for sex scenes, I basically said sex scenes was a natural progression of the filthy route story-line, and I think the story is close to naturally including them.

also if you read all my posts (going back quite a few threads now) on this topic of discussion, you will see I have already stated many of the points you posting about.

 

[Angmir]

please don't misquote or misrepresent my posts

I never said filthy was not filthy enough and I never said I was waiting for sex scenes, I basically said sex scenes was a natural progression of the filthy route story-line, and I think the story is close to naturally including them.

also if you read all my posts (going back quite a few threads now) on this topic of discussion, you will see I have already stated many of the points you posting about.

Well I guess we both kind of missunderstood each other.
No hard feeling, as you say - we are largely of similar mindset anyway.

 

[armion82]

Yeah I think that.

Because in the story right now there is no room for straight up sex.

Only justifiable vaginal sex that could happen in the story at this point is:
A straight up rape
B sex with husband - that is compleatly unnecessery in corruption game.

But that is besides the point.

And that Point is - Author has the whole story pre-planned from the very begining ! All event are mapped and structured into cohesive story. He had it planned 2 years ago when the sex scenes are going to happen, and restructuring that story on the fly just to please the crowd of simpletons that lack imagination would be worst thing he could do.

So man up people or move on.

He miss the opportunity to actualy make a good distinction between good wife path and corruption path.
We all remember the scene when Sophia was dressing for Liam and the idiot left when she was wearing the red lingerie.This was the the best way to make something more of that scene if you are on good wife route.Sadly nothing realy happen.And that was the point that I know for sure that Dylan and Sam must cuckold Liam.

unless you are his close collaborator, there is nothing to prove that he has written everything from scratch except his words. and if it were true and if he was so organized that he would be able to control the time between updates. But at the beginning he had promised monthly updates (playable day) and now it takes him 3.5 months and maybe more in the future. it proves that he does not plan anything and he does not control anything. And as I said before the only thing he decided at the beginning is how long his game will last and what is the amount he has to earn at the end of the project. after that he has to fill the game with endless slices of life, dialogues, useless side stories and tons of characters as the game progresses. and that's exactly what he's doing right now. these are my convictions. I know yours are different. only time will show us who's right ... maybe in 4 or 5 years.

Don't worry around playable day 20 there will be so much sex that many will stop playing the game

 

[dirtyoldmanlol]

Go to tag and then check the actual content of this game it is just a lie

I've played it, there's no lie. The developer said right from the beginning it's going to be a slow process. Knowing that and then complaining that its moving too slow, simply shows a lack of comprehension.

 

[momojean]

I've played it, there's no lie. The developer said right from the beginning it's going to be a slow process. Knowing that and then complaining that its moving too slow, simply shows a lack of comprehension.

yes he did promise a slow pace. and since you have a good memory why don't you remind people about the monthly update (playable day) he promised too?

 

[DjKillerDev]

I can see only Husband Wife Scene, No Other ,
Is anybody Get Other Scenes!!!

 

[roberto1982]

If you want to enjoy this game don't count sex scene or naked scene player must focus to story and must see how to wife become slut part by part. There is too many games make me happy when i see new version but there is only this game make me count days and hours for new updates sorry for my english