VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[ancienregimele]

It's not a matter of blackmail. I'm perfectly fine with Aiden blackmailing Sophia and some of the tasks have been interesting, specifically modeling for the art class. It's a matter of how poorly the blackmail was set up, and the borderline pathetic reason for it. Like I said, Sophia did basically nothing and then capitulated. All things considered, the second Dylan was enrolled in self defense, the whole thing should have been wrapped up.

Dylan's self-defence expertise after a couple of lessons was grossly exaggerated in order for him to drop a drunken hobo twice his size & 3 or 4 times his weight, while 3 of that man's friends stood by. That was totally unrealistic (& so doesn't feature in my playthrough). Nobody gets that good, that quick, even a physically fit football (soccer) player. It doesn't matter how proficient a marshal artist Dylan may eventually become, because he's never going to be able to take on a gang with connections & large amounts of muscle. It's not credible.

Some time ago the Dev intimated that the martial arts lessons were not about the Aiden situation.

I disagree about the blackmail set up, while acknowledging it could have been handled better in it's portrayal & it's causes. Schools do very little about bullying, despite what their mission statements commit to. Police do not want to be involved. Seeking to protect her son while "initially" (from Sophia's POV), agreeing to a deal was an immediate solution to imminent danger. Other than sending Dylan to boarding school, or home tutoring, the only solution with any sense of reality would be Carl & his fortune.

What ticks me off is that a satisfactorily nasty end is available for blackmail/Aiden haters but the complaints don't stop. I understand the hate. I loathe the shota with a passion but the Dev is not about to provide a suitable terminal event for it. Anti-blackmail lobbyists are lucky. None of us will ever get ANY game that suits us exactly, unless we can afford to commission one. Aiden is meant to be hated. That's how he's written & people do hate him. That's a sign of a successful character.

 

[Blurpee69]

Dylan's self-defence expertise after a couple of lessons was grossly exaggerated in order for him to drop a drunken hobo twice his size & 3 or 4 times his weight, while 3 of that man's friends stood by. That was totally unrealistic (& so doesn't feature in my playthrough). It doesn't matter how proficient a marshal artist Dylan may eventually become, because he's never going to be able to take on a gang with connections & large amounts of muscle. It's not credible.

Some time ago the Dev intimated that the martial arts lessons were not about the Aiden situation.

I disagree about the blackmail set up, while acknowledging it could have been handled better in it's portrayal & it's causes. Schools do very little about bullying, despite what their mission statements commit to. Police do not want to be involved. Seeking to protect her son while "initially" (from Sophia's POV), agreeing to a deal was an immediate solution to imminent danger. Other than sending Dylan to boarding school, or home tutoring, the only solution with any sense of reality would be Carl & his fortune.

Yes, but Dylan has big main character energy. So he's kicking everyone ass after 4 lessons of self defense.

 

[Alley_Cat]

It's not a matter of blackmail. I'm perfectly fine with Aiden blackmailing Sophia and some of the tasks have been interesting, specifically modeling for the art class. It's a matter of how poorly the blackmail was set up, and the borderline pathetic reason for it. Like I said, Sophia did basically nothing and then capitulated. All things considered, the second Dylan was enrolled in self defense, the whole thing should have been wrapped up.

Aiden should have caught Sophia doing something with Dylan, Sam, Ellie, or any of the other people Sophia can have an affair with. That would have been a more viable reason to put Sohpia into the dilema of doing what Aiden says. Just my opinion.

One of the games I occasionally refer to here is Dog Days of Summer. I played the blackmail route there, because it made sense - the MC engaged in academic misconduct and should have been kicked out of college and not graduated.

And while not accepting the blackmail leads to hotter content at the moment, I know at some point it's going to bite her in the arse.

So far, with no intention of playing the Dylan route, there's been no consequence to either Sophia, and Dylan is even going to a better school. The latest event even shows it, with Dylan being in the city without fear.

 

[Chucked_Sandwich]

2 weeks to get it update ready..... ok..... characters..... done..... locations done unless you go to a “different” shop. All presets should be done from previous updates. Story done...... what’s the hold up?

 

[ancienregimele]

Yes, but Dylan has big main character energy. So he's kicking everyone ass after 4 lessons of self defense.

"Big main character energy" eh what?. I wish I'd had some of that when I did judo in my youth. Then I wouldn't have ended up on the mat as much. AFAIK the only way to fit Dylan's park event 'realistically' into the story is just to say that he got lucky.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

"Big main character energy" eh what?. I wish I'd had some of that when I did judo in my youth. Then I wouldn't have ended up on the mat as much. AFAIK the only way to fit Dylan's park event 'realistically' into the story is just to say that he got lucky.

The alcohol-drinking hobo was the lucky part.

 

[Romazeo]

2 weeks to get it update ready..... ok..... characters..... done..... locations done unless you go to a “different” shop. All presets should be done from previous updates. Story done...... what’s the hold up?

Two weeks till new update or what? Don't quite get it

 

[XKJ333]

Meanwhile Dylan and sophia in the car

 

[Romazeo]

This is not quite a place to ask, but no millionaires here? I would ask L&P can he do some events in first place for good money? Wishes, wishes...
Or we have some deep problems that money can't solve.
I mean start of the game really baited me with many aspects and keep doing well without disappointment except time of development.

 

[migsszx]

Meanwhile Dylan and sophia in the car

what kinda movie is that scene even from

 

[sheatfish]

Yes, but Dylan has big main character energy. So he's kicking everyone ass after 4 lessons of self defense.

Dylan has been involved in sports all his life, he has a strong and enduring body, well-developed vestibular apparatus and reaction. And here he was shown a couple of not difficult tricks. It's not hard to knock out a drunk guy. Trust me. Just hit first. Did it a hundred times.

 

[ancienregimele]

The alcohol-drinking hobo was the lucky part.

That & the fact his mates did nothing.

 

[ancienregimele]

Must have been their well-developed sense of fair play. Who'd have guessed?

 

[菊花献给党]

Dylan's self-defence expertise after a couple of lessons was grossly exaggerated in order for him to drop a drunken hobo twice his size & 3 or 4 times his weight, while 3 of that man's friends stood by. That was totally unrealistic (& so doesn't feature in my playthrough). Nobody gets that good, that quick, even a physically fit football (soccer) player. It doesn't matter how proficient a marshal artist Dylan may eventually become, because he's never going to be able to take on a gang with connections & large amounts of muscle. It's not credible.

Some time ago the Dev intimated that the martial arts lessons were not about the Aiden situation.

I disagree about the blackmail set up, while acknowledging it could have been handled better in it's portrayal & it's causes. Schools do very little about bullying, despite what their mission statements commit to. Police do not want to be involved. Seeking to protect her son while "initially" (from Sophia's POV), agreeing to a deal was an immediate solution to imminent danger. Other than sending Dylan to boarding school, or home tutoring, the only solution with any sense of reality would be Carl & his fortune.

What ticks me off is that a satisfactorily nasty end is available for blackmail/Aiden haters but the complaints don't stop. I understand the hate. I loathe the shota with a passion but the Dev is not about to provide a suitable terminal event for it. Anti-blackmail lobbyists are lucky. None of us will ever get ANY game that suits us exactly, unless we can afford to commission one. Aiden is meant to be hated. That's how he's written & people do hate him. That's a sign of a successful character.

Compared with Sam, Dylan is normal. According to Sam's level of artistic knowledge, he can go to university to teach

 

[ancienregimele]

Compared with Sam, Dylan is normal. According to Sam's level of artistic knowledge, he can go to university to teach

Yes, in that sense Dylan is more normal than Sam. He could start his art related academic career right now covering both theory & practice.

 

[XKJ333]

Olga

You must be registered to see the links

what kinda movie is that scene even from

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Dylan's self-defence expertise after a couple of lessons was grossly exaggerated in order for him to drop a drunken hobo twice his size & 3 or 4 times his weight, while 3 of that man's friends stood by. That was totally unrealistic (& so doesn't feature in my playthrough). Nobody gets that good, that quick, even a physically fit football (soccer) player. It doesn't matter how proficient a marshal artist Dylan may eventually become, because he's never going to be able to take on a gang with connections & large amounts of muscle. It's not credible.

Some time ago the Dev intimated that the martial arts lessons were not about the Aiden situation.

I disagree about the blackmail set up, while acknowledging it could have been handled better in it's portrayal & it's causes. Schools do very little about bullying, despite what their mission statements commit to. Police do not want to be involved. Seeking to protect her son while "initially" (from Sophia's POV), agreeing to a deal was an immediate solution to imminent danger. Other than sending Dylan to boarding school, or home tutoring, the only solution with any sense of reality would be Carl & his fortune.

What ticks me off is that a satisfactorily nasty end is available for blackmail/Aiden haters but the complaints don't stop. I understand the hate. I loathe the shota with a passion but the Dev is not about to provide a suitable terminal event for it. Anti-blackmail lobbyists are lucky. None of us will ever get ANY game that suits us exactly, unless we can afford to commission one. Aiden is meant to be hated. That's how he's written & people do hate him. That's a sign of a successful character.

Now that we have an off ramp for the Aiden Blackmail (courtesy of Don Morello), there is no reason I can see for the Aiden hate.

If L&P had not given us the boarding school route or the Don solution, then this would be a very different story and Sophia would have just been reduced to a victim who was destined to be passed around as Aiden's party favor.

I think that would have destroyed the premise of AWAM.

I'd like to see less blackmail and more Sophia driven choices now.

We are far enough into AWAM where Sophia needs to start taking a more active role in what she wants.

The scene with Sam was hot, but there was no sexual reciprocation - not even anything half-hearted, like Sophia giving Sam a quick grope through the pants.

Sophia's introspection, that inner dialogue, helps tell us what she finds exciting, but it is still incredibly light on having Sophia strongly considering acting on something because she Likes it.

She could be masturbating while fantasizing about different scenarios, for example:

Sophia finds herself thinking about:

a lesbian encounter with a younger girl (as she gets close to orgasm - she chooses the younger girl ... is it Julia or is it Ellie?)

a hot encounter with a younger guy (as she gets close to orgasm - she chooses the younger guy ... is it Sam or is it Dylan?)

a lesbian encounter with a woman (Claire or Patricia)

a hot encounter with a powerful older man (Don Morello or Liam's boss)

Once L&P starts weaving these fantasies into the story, especially when Sophia starts to take a more active role in her fantasies, then hot, Sophia initiated, encounters with Natalie, Ellie, Sam, Dylan and others become much more accessible as gradual story progression.

 

[bardock8114]

I wonder if we will get the first Teaser today. Its been a while and the percentage is still at 0....

 

[ancienregimele]

Now that we have an off ramp for the Aiden Blackmail (courtesy of Don Morello), there is no reason I can see for the Aiden hate.

If L&P had not given us the boarding school route or the Don solution, then this would be a very different story and Sophia would have just been reduced to a victim who was destined to be passed around as Aiden's party favor.

I think that would have destroyed the premise of AWAM.

I'd like to see less blackmail and more Sophia driven choices now.

We are far enough into AWAM where Sophia needs to start taking a more active role in what she wants.

The scene with Sam was hot, but there was no sexual reciprocation - not even anything half-hearted, like Sophia giving Sam a quick grope through the pants.

Sophia's introspection, that inner dialogue, helps tell us what she finds exciting, but it is still incredibly light on having Sophia strongly considering acting on something because she Likes it.

She could be masturbating while fantasizing about different scenarios, for example:

Sophia finds herself thinking about:

a lesbian encounter with a younger girl (as she gets close to orgasm - she chooses the younger girl ... is it Julia or is it Ellie?)

a hot encounter with a younger guy (as she gets close to orgasm - she chooses the younger guy ... is it Sam or is it Dylan?)

a lesbian encounter with a woman (Claire or Patricia)

a hot encounter with a powerful older man (Don Morello or Liam's boss)

Once L&P starts weaving these fantasies into the story, especially when Sophia starts to take a more active role in her fantasies, then hot, Sophia initiated, encounters with Natalie, Ellie, Sam, Dylan and others become much more accessible as gradual story progression.

I found it incredible that Sam not only didn't attempt to go further but that he calmly then initiated a nude drawing sequence, combined with a discourse on art history. We've all been there, you remove a beautiful woman's panties, or she strips in front of you & you immediately think, "art materials, where did I put them? Let's show this lady how really clever I am." There's cool....& then there's too cool for the suspension of disbelief.

 

[Sadowdark]

I found it incredible that Sam not only didn't attempt to go further but that he calmly then initiated a nude drawing sequence, combined with a discourse on art history. We've all been there, you remove a beautiful woman's panties, or she strips in front of you & you immediately think, "art materials, where did I put them? Let's show this lady how really clever I am." There's cool....& then there's too cool for the suspension of disbelief.

This whole Sam thing was so unreal and implausible and far-fetched. Even Sam didn't get an erection. As long as Sam gets an erection someday, I always laugh about it in games. He'll walk down the street and see Sophia, and his penis will pop out of his pants all the way to his belly button. Not possible in RL