VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Given the above, we decided to act decisively and strictly - after only seven years of turning a blind eye

 

[Bibifoc]

Pretty clear in L&P's case I'd say. I mean, we can pretend that the 2nd sidejob doesn't exist, we can pretend that all the incest doesn't exist, underage looking characters... Sure, we can do that, or we don't.

I agree that there are cases where it's questionable tho.

In this case Patreon themselves prentended the 2nd side job doesn't exist. And suddenly it exists and it's over. That what annoys me.

Patreon mentionned AWAM years ago. Since then never (even in the last messages). Each time the Patreon page was under review, they pointed out stuff from DOL, L&P fixed it and the page got back. AWAM wasn't in the line.

If it was really a problem for Patreon. It was obviously easy for Patreon to mention AWAM and accuse L&P of deceiving them. And that would have been normal. But Patreon never do that and I'd even say they encourage devs to do what they do.

 

[BillieKimochi]

I sincerely hope he will completely remove the pedo side jobs it will be a lot less trouble in the future but can he learn the lesson ?

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

believe what you want; but it was L&P himself who posted on his discord the email received from patreon banning him for shota and incest. Was it a photomontage? I don't think so, I was there

Oh my God, seriously. It is like you have to spell everything.
Of course it was the content of AWAM that was against Patreon's terms of service, but it was the link here that allow them to connect the two titles together. Without it, there would be no case as Patron was for a completely different game!

Also, as stated and confirmed, screen captures of the actual DMs are showing everything and clearly state the reason. Written in black and white. No ambiguity.

Why there even is a discussion on the subject still?

 

[sssaam.cindy.2019]

Oh my God, seriously. It is like you have to spell everything.
Of course it was the content of AWAM that was against Patreon's terms of service, but it was the link here that allow them to connect the two titles together. Without it, there would be no case as Patron was for a completely different game!

Also, as stated and confirmed, screen captures of the actual DMs are showing everything and clearly state the reason. Written in black and white. No ambiguity.

Why there even is a discussion on the subject still?

Funny how this illegal / hacking group had such a big effect

 

[Jafo]

Well seeing this on graphtreon.com/ I think it is game over for him and us. Even after the shit we have had last years I think I am going to miss the entire circus. Where are the letters DOL stand for? Is that the game where everything is possible with Sophia?

 

[meduusa]

its weird that patreon loses a client that techincally follows the rules and earns them a good amount, I don't know how much he made monthly

 

[DylansMoM_001]

I sincerely hope he will completely remove the pedo side jobs it will be a lot less trouble in the future but can he learn the lesson ?

It won't be enough. He'll have to remove "AWAM" start selling "DOL".
Awam has a lots of other things that goes against patreon tos. incest for example. Also there is a group of people who got pissed when 2nd side bodied their favorite character In the latest Pol.

 

[tofhdns]

The very reason he created a different version of the game (DOL) was because he himself was aware that AWAM was against Patreon's TOS. He was able to get away with it for a long time. And it's not as if Patreon was not aware of AWAM. As long as there is no direct link between his patreon account and awam, chances are that he would continue to get away with it.

That is where the link in f95zone comes in. When, his account was last suspended, he made a request for the link to be removed in the OP from this thread and one of the admins did that. His patreon account was reinstated after that. Another admin could not satisfy his/her ego though and went , how dare a third party site tell us what we can and cannot do here and added the link back. Inspite of multiple requests from L&P. And now his account is banned.

The underlying reason behind the ban is definitely shota and incest but chances are, he might have continued to get away with it if not for this avoidable mess with f95zone link.

But you are right about one thing, it is what it is.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

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It was a huge mistake to add patreon link there

 

[1879]

Well seeing this on graphtreon.com/ I think it is game over for him and us. Even after the shit we have had last years I think I am going to miss the entire circus. Where are the letters DOL stand for? Is that the game where everything is possible with Sophia?

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Now L&P thinks: shit, I should have let her fuck

 

[tofhdns]

It was a huge mistake to add patreon link there

At the same time, it was also a big mistake that he did not delete the link in the game.

He had the chance but didn't do it.

 

[BillieKimochi]

Well seeing this on graphtreon.com/ I think it is game over for him and us. Even after the shit we have had last years I think I am going to miss the entire circus. Where are the letters DOL stand for? Is that the game where everything is possible with Sophia?

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Plz don't say that i don't want to lose y'all

 

[Wbwbd85]

If I remember correctly when lp patreon page got suspended after the sauna update someone said the line( I didn't get what I paid for) was the thing that started this. More than likely that was someone who found the game on f95 and has played awam then they probably signed up for patreon and got Dol and they didn't understand and complained.

 

[lockerxx]

its weird that patreon loses a client that techincally follows the rules and earns them a good amount, I don't know how much he made monthly

it was Strange because the DOL version was the "safe version" and AWAM was outside of Patreon.they hate money.

 

[1879]

Now would be the opportunity for L&P to draw a line under it and tell people some story that unfortunately he can't continue and is ending the game.

As you can see from the current discussions, no one is able to find out the truth, good for L&P.
The Dylan nerds had their erection, good too.

Now he can continue with a new title, for example "a confused wife" and can finally let her fuck around town with adults, just like it should be.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

At the same time, it was also a big mistake that he did not delete the link in the game.

He had the chance but didn't do it.

he should've completely keep awam away from DOL. Remove all the links between DOL and awam or should've sold awam on SS and other Platforms and tell his patreons to subscribe there "if" they want to play the VN with "patreon forbidden" contents .

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I disagree. Patreon can apply whatever rules they want and ban whoever they want. No problem ... but they are never never never clear in their messages. Never. In all messages I saw (not only for L&P), devs have always to guess what they really want to say or know. They can't just clearly name things. And suddenly you get those lovely unclear messages where you have 48/72 hours to fix things or you'll be banned. It's tiring.

I don't know why they do that but I'm quite sure it's on purpose. I saw messages where devs asked clear questions and answers are really vague. Whoever you talk to. It can't be a coincidence.

Here is the question: What unclear message did L&P receive from Patreon, and how was it interrupted? I haven't seen any correspondence between L&P and Patreon that said the link on F95 was the issue and he must remove it, no exceptions. If the information exists, would he share it to prove what is being said?

Many people here can only conclude that his Patreon page was banned for questionable content (Incest and Shota) based on the email that was presented, and with the "clean" version of DoL, it's only logical that AWAM was the game Patreon was speaking about in that email. So until other information becomes available to refute the current information presented, that is the only source of information people can go on. Everything else is conjecture.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

If I remember correctly when lp patreon page got suspended after the sauna update

So It turns out Ellie is really a BITCH

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Well seeing this on graphtreon.com/ I think it is game over for him and us. Even after the shit we have had last years I think I am going to miss the entire circus. Where are the letters DOL stand for? Is that the game where everything is possible with Sophia?

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Nah. I think he will rebuild, while suffering a setback. He's got a good product and took steps to reintroduce PayPal payments.
Frankly the setback is fully deserved for not maintaining the correct communication channels and not building backups.
He was always on borrowed time with Patreon.