VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[strenif]

I'm sorry, what's JOHN?

 

[armion82]

JOHN is updated every two monthes, AWAM is updated every 1.5 monthes. You can say that each JOHN's update is a whole gameday and each AWAM is 0.5 gameday, but in terms of renders they are quite identical. Dont get me wrong, I really like JOHN. it has wonderful remders and an interesting, well written storyline. Stoper does a great job and I'm sure (and hope) he'll get tons of patrons in the near future.
But you can't be serious when you're calling l&p slow (in term of renders and being a lone developer)

Actualy he is realy slow.50 days for half day is simply not enough.Don't forget that he claim that he wrote all the scenes 1 year and half ago.So that should actualy make the work much easier.Sadly it is one of two- he lie to us about that or he just don't work on the game.

 

[roro]

Actualy he is realy slow.50 days for half day is simply not enough.Don't forget that he claim that he wrote all the scenes 1 year and half ago.So that should actualy make the work much easier.Sadly it is one of two- he lie to us about that or he just don't work on the game.

Why just one of two? maybe there's another explanation? have you ever rendered a scene with the same detail level as l&p or stoper? have you ever post processed an image file? What about the coding? there is a limit for single dev, and stoper once said that thats his limit, and there is no reason to think that l&p has a different limit... As for the claims about the pre-written story, I think he ment that the story's outline is already written. I don't think he wrote the whole dialogues, and even if he did, that's not as time consuming as the renders.

 

[armion82]

Why just one of two? maybe there's another explanation? have you ever rendered a scene with the same detail level as l&p or stoper? have you ever post processed an image file? What about the coding? there is a limit for single dev, and stoper once said that thats his limit, and there is no reason to think that l&p has a different limit... As for the claims about the pre-written story, I think he ment that the story's outline is already written. I don't think he wrote the whole dialogues, and even if he did, that's not as time consuming as the renders.

You realy think that he can make only 3-4 renders per day?WOW.

 

[roro]

I also would like the updates to arrive faster. damn, I would like to play the whole finished game today (you know it would be a fabulous game when finished...). But good things take time, you cant have such renders without spending a lot of time on them. You can't have a realistic corruption story if you rush it. I want it to be as good as it can be, that's why I live with the slow updats. I prefer delays over compromise...

 

[armion82]

I also would like the updates to arrive faster. damn, I would like to play the whole finished game today (you know it would be a fabulous game when finished...). But good things take time, you cant have such renders without spending a lot of time on them. You can't have a realistic corruption story if you rush it. I want it to be as good as it can be, that's why I live with the slow updats. I prefer delays over compromise...

I'm Ok with time but he must do something otherwise his idea that the game will be finished in 3,max 4 years is just a lie.15-16 months are already gone.And we still have 22-23 days left.Speculations that the game will need at least 5 more years don't seem so unbelievable.

 

[roro]

You realy think that he can make only 3-4 renders per day?WOW.

you haven't done your homework
No less than 300 renders per update. Even if he's working each and every day, in 45 days its 6-7 renders per day. But most of the updates had much more than 300 renders, so I guess l&p's pace is of 10 renders per working day. I don't think you work 30 days a month, so don't expect devs to do so...

 

[momojean]

Why just one of two? maybe there's another explanation? have you ever rendered a scene with the same detail level as l&p or stoper? have you ever post processed an image file? What about the coding? there is a limit for single dev, and stoper once said that thats his limit, and there is no reason to think that l&p has a different limit... As for the claims about the pre-written story, I think he ment that the story's outline is already written. I don't think he wrote the whole dialogues, and even if he did, that's not as time consuming as the renders.

of course L&P has a different limits. he earns five times what stoper earns. he could hire a part timer helper to speed up the development. Stoper can't do that since his monthly income is only 1K.

 

[momojean]

you haven't done your homework
No less than 300 renders per update. Even if he's working each and every day, in 45 days its 6-7 renders per day. But most of the updates had much more than 300 renders, so I guess l&p's pace is of 10 renders per working day. I don't think you work 30 days a month, so don't expect devs to do so...

300 per half playable day!!!??? are you sure? he did updates with only 120 renders. don't try to confuse people between a full update and half update. because since the demo version (800 renders) he never made an update with 300 renders.

 

[roro]

I'm Ok with time but he must do something otherwise his idea that the game will be finished in 3,max 4 years is just a lie.15-16 months are already gone.And we still have 22-23 days left.Speculations that the game will need at least 5 more years don't seem so unbelievable.

I assume l&p believe that in time, the pledges will rise above 8k. He promised that with this goal, He will quite his job or his university courses and will put all his time in this game.
let's do the math. if the patrons support continue it's way up the same pace as before (~250$ with each update if I'm not mistaken), than with 12 updates he will reach his goal. that's 1.5 years from now. The game will be in it's 14-15 gameday, and will need another 15-16 gameday updates. If from that point l&p will be able to make things faster (with buying better hardware, quiting job etc...) and deliver a whole gameday in 1.5 months, than the game will be finished in another two years. So, I guess the best case scenario is a finished game in 3-3.5 years from now. As I wrote before, I want it now, but knowing the limts, I can live with that time frame.

 

[roro]

300 per half playable day!!!??? are you sure? he did updates with only 120 renders. don't try to confuse people between a full update and half update. because since the demo version (800 renders) he never made an update with 300 renders.

Yes, I'm sure. the last 3 updates (0.5 day each) had 330, 312 and 295 renders respectively.

 

[armion82]

I assume l&p believe that in time, the pledges will rise above 8k. He promised that with this goal, He will quite his job or his university courses and will put all his time in this game.
let's do the math. if the patrons support continue it's way up the same pace as before (~250$ with each update if I'm not mistaken), than with 12 updates he will reach his goal. that's 1.5 years from now. The game will be in it's 14-15 gameday, and will need another 15-16 gameday updates. If from that point l&p will be able to make things faster (with buying better hardware, quiting job etc...) and deliver a whole gameday in 1.5 months, than the game will be finished in another two years. So, I guess the best case scenario is a finished game in 3-3.5 years from now. As I wrote before, I want it now, but knowing the limts, I can live with that time frame.

Let me tell you that 3-3,5 years won't happen.
After all he already quit his studies but we actualy starting to get the updates not every 30 days,but first 35 days,later 40 days and now we are towards 45-50 days.

 

[stoper]

stoper are you a fan of a wife and a mother? or just watching the competition.

I just find this topic entertaining.
The game looks good and I like the slow burn idea. But incest is really not my thing.

 

[armion82]

I just find this topic entertaining.
The game looks good and I like the slow burn idea. But incest is really not my thing.

I want to play your version of AWAM with incest.Please send me the link.

 

[roro]

Let me tell you that 3-3,5 years won't happen.
After all he already quit his studies but we actualy starting to get the updates not every 30 days,but first 35 days,later 40 days and now we are towrds 45-50 days.

Maybe. I'm not a prophet and so are you. Things can change for the better of for the worse.
And when the game starts to get juicy, would you even want it to end? Haven't you read a good book and wished it would not end? a good game in development could be exactly that.

 

[armion82]

Maybe. I'm not a prophet and so are you. Things can change for the better of for the worse.
And when the game starts to get juicy, would you even want it to end? Haven't you read a good book and wished it would not end? a good game in development could be exactly that.

Of course I will want to end.What's the point of book that don't end?This is not fighting game or MMO after all.
You can go and check the Patreon.1 year ago I was asking him how he will release the updates.He answer that he will do monthly updates no matter how much content is ready.
Actualy forget about checking,he delete so many comments that I doubt it's still there.

 

[armion82]

Man, would you stop with your fake nuse already?
You can find the number of renders in l&p's post's on patreon with every new update. Even if you're not a patron, there are some patrons (including myself) that uploaded those posts to this site.
I just don't like people throwing false statements, and this hard statistic work took me 2 long minutes...

You realise that 295 renders in last update are not 295 unique renders,right?At least 10% are just a small variations,maybe even more.Also 295 renders for 52 days are nothing extreme.We have people that are making more than 1400 for 1 month.

 

[roro]

You realise that 295 renders in last update are not 295 unique renders,right?At least 10% are just a small variations,maybe even more.Also 295 renders for 52 days are nothing extreme.We have people that are making more than 1400 for 1 month.

I never said it's extreme, and yes, I know that some other devs are making more renders per month, but you can't compare those situations.
some of the devs that deliver more renders have a team that helps them. l&p won't do that and he has his own reasons, be it greediness, perfectionism or whatever. But most of the other devs also pay less attention to details. This is one of the main reasons why this game is special.
And i guess you also know that there are other devs who deliver less than 100 renders in more than a month.

 

[armion82]

I never said it's extreme, and yes, I know that some other devs are making more renders per month, but you can't compare those situations.
some of the devs that deliver more renders have a team that helps them. l&p won't do that and he has his own reasons, be it greediness, perfectionism or whatever. But most of the other devs also pay less attention to details. This is one of the main reasons why this game is special.
And i guess you also know that there are other devs who deliver less than 100 renders in more than a month.

Actualy I don't know those devsAnd I am pretty sure they don't make so much money anyway.
About teams.You know that almost in all teams actualy the dev is the single one who do the renders?The others mostly helps with the writing or coding if we're talking for Unity games.

 

[Rehxntai]

Played this game a while ago, not a lot of 'content' if you get what I mean (no hate I get that's what he's going for). Not sure if there was somewhere to look that I've missed but any updates on that yet or still working on the slow burn realistic build? Just wanna know before I download again,
Cheers