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The data says exactly the opposite. Dylan and Ellie are the most popular characters in the game, far above the insipid Sam and the other insignificant characters.
Sam is also an important character as stated by L&P and while I do not dispute that Ellie/Dylan are amongst the most popular characters in the game.
It was a really a daft idea to have a poll in the first place as Sophia is the main mc NOT DYLAN and now he is the 2nd mc with his own updates and now we will get an Amber/Dylan update just to keep his kiddie patrons happy,sad really sad.
This Dylan V Sam shite is crazy as both characters can be very annoying
 
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This dude changed Sophias model to look like crap but still keeps that goofy Zoolander ass on the right but also Logan and whats-his-face from the club and sauna event.

For someone who displays themselves as a sort of perfectionist he really likes to contradict himself.
 

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Like that approach. Adding to the comments before in regard to Dylan and Sophia. The good point of the story is the tweaking possibility and there are many more options down the road feasible than mother and son. That she is teasing Dylan, okay, but to prepare him for Marie and the others to come. Anyway, looking forward to the next chapter, when finally Sophia is fully opening to whomever
 

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... and now we will get an Amber/Dylan update just to keep his kiddie patrons happy,sad really sad. ...
It is very tempting for developers to introduce different levels for supporters in order to generate more revenue. There are always people who think the experience offered by a particular game is worth a lot of money. And I'm talking about people who pay $50 a month or more to be close to the game's development, get first-hand information, and yes, influence the gameplay.
And that's exactly the problem with these V+ supporters. The idea of high revenues is tempting, but the downside is that as a developer, you give up control.
If you, as a developer, lose 10 $5 supporters because they are dissatisfied, that's $50 a month, which is manageable if your supporter base is large enough, but if that's 10 V+ supporters, that's already $600 and not funny at all.
His “small patrons” are not the problem, his V+ supporters are the problem.
Under certain circumstances, and L&P is one such case, a developer becomes dependent on precisely these supporters (V+) because they have too small a supporter base and these supporters have a significant influence on development by threatening to withdraw their support.
L&P has fallen into this trap and can't get out of it, and we have to live with such decisions – like Dylan, who is now popping up everywhere.
 

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It is very tempting for developers to introduce different levels for supporters in order to generate more revenue. There are always people who think the experience offered by a particular game is worth a lot of money. And I'm talking about people who pay $50 a month or more to be close to the game's development, get first-hand information, and yes, influence the gameplay.
And that's exactly the problem with these V+ supporters. The idea of high revenues is tempting, but the downside is that as a developer, you give up control.
If you, as a developer, lose 10 $5 supporters because they are dissatisfied, that's $50 a month, which is manageable if your supporter base is large enough, but if that's 10 V+ supporters, that's already $600 and not funny at all.
His “small patrons” are not the problem, his V+ supporters are the problem.
Under certain circumstances, and L&P is one such case, a developer becomes dependent on precisely these supporters (V+) because they have too small a supporter base and these supporters have a significant influence on development by threatening to withdraw their support.
L&P has fallen into this trap and can't get out of it, and we have to live with such decisions – like Dylan, who is now popping up everywhere.
You are wrong. L&P made Dylan the second MC long before he introduced LV+ tier. Dylan was obviously going to have a lot of scenes in the VN. LV+ tier was introduced after his Patreon got banned. In spite of Dylan being the top in the favorite poll and makes more money to L&P, he chose to focus on other characters, some characters who were even in the bottom of the poll.

L&P is not easily swayed by his LV+ subscribers otherwise he would have introduced penetrative sex with Sophia early and could have made more money.

L&P has a vision for his game and he wants to develop it accordingly. Yes, he has made a few compromises (like Ellie's Spa scene) here and there but his vision for the game won't let him make too big a compromise.

Dylan was only added to the Ranch event but not other future events. L&P wouldn't easily agree to to his LV+ demands. Only if an idea makes sense and he has enough time to plan for it then he would consider.

It took a lot of convincing/reminding him to include Dylan to the ranch event and it was addressed to him 1.5 year early in advance so he has time to plan for the event.
 

hzjujk

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You are wrong. L&P made Dylan the second MC long before he introduced LV+ tier. Dylan was obviously going to have a lot of scenes in the VN. LV+ tier was introduced after his Patreon got banned. In spite of Dylan being the top in the favorite poll and makes more money to L&P, he chose to focus on other characters, some characters who were even in the bottom of the poll.

L&P is not easily swayed by his LV+ subscribers otherwise he would have introduced penetrative sex with Sophia early and could have made more money.

L&P has a vision for his game and he wants to develop it accordingly. Yes, he has made a few compromises (like Ellie's Spa scene) here and there but his vision for the game won't let him make too big a compromise.

Dylan was only added to the Ranch event but not other future events. L&P wouldn't easily agree to to his LV+ demands. Only if an idea makes sense and he has enough time to plan for it then he would consider.

It took a lot of convincing/reminding him to include Dylan to the ranch event and it was addressed to him 1.5 year early in advance so he has time to plan for the event.
Thank you for the information, which does not entirely convince me and does not change the basic content of my post.
A developer enters into an unwanted dependency with such support levels because he cannot deliver what such a support level actually requires—round-the-clock customer service. Unless these customers are much less critical than I believe. Are they???
 

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The main reason LP made Dylan 2nd MC was so he can shoehorn in sexual content without it involving Sophia, such as the Amber and sleepover scenes, as well as potentially with Ellie.

So he made Dylan the 2nd MC for money, even if the LV tiers hadn't anything to do with it, specifically. But he did add Dylan to the ranch because of fan pressure, that is true.

He doesn't give in to Sophia sexual content demands because he thinks once that happens, interest will go down. Once Sophia has sex, there isn't more story to do, her having sex means the game is basically over, and LP doesn't want that.
 

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Dylan was only added to the Ranch event but not other future events.
That's for now, when the ranch event is the only one that's going to happen over next 1-2 years. But who is to say future events don't receive the same treatment when their time comes? After all the precedent for a supposedly "all planned out story" was already made.
 
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