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ST-9Pol

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I thought the new update would include lesbian scenes :/
From what I can see, and this I know will be an unpopular comment.. But L&P has become his own Fan art creator with these side arc updates, he no longer uses his own base characters for the renders produced, and instead has substituted the quality artwork he/she was famous for, and allowed it to be substituted for hit/miss AI drivel ... I mentioned a few posts back https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-p2-v0-225-p1-v0-152-lust-passion.5944/post-18640780 about the disconnect from the story, the use of rubbish AI, and the derogation of the characters this post will deliver...

The AI used in the artwork that is changing Patricia and Sophia into almost unrecognisable characters is also reflected into the personality changes that in the cannon of the story that is completely mystifying to me.. Now this coming from me who over time has become the corruptor of the base story through my fan art GN, and who has been criticised numerous times because of it, leaves me scratching my head in confusion as L&P has time and time again talked the big game .. The comments (Praise) I see over a non related story arc that will end here for players, that, and remember this, will not contribute into later chapters, and is being talked up just because the MC might drop to her knees and gobble the cock of a completely insignificant character.. Could be argued is just to up Dev's Subscribers prior to Xmas, and further, I will repeat here again "Might" "maybe" give a BJ to a character that will never appear again in the game, but also will not contribute in anyway to future corruption, and not being mentioned, too be ever be in the game again... He/She is being praised that this might be the best update ever????? Sorry... I must be missing something here... Are all the player's of this game so shallow that you cant see what is going on? or are all just L&P (Sophia) sheep, come on!!!... There is good story telling.. and there is instant gratification... OOhhh my bad... I suppose I answered my own question there huh... I hope you can all see through the fog????... My two cents...
 
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From what I can see, and this I know will be an unpopular comment.. But L&P has become his own Fan art creator with these side arc updates, he no longer uses his own base characters for the renders produced, and instead has substituted the quality artwork he/she was famous for, and allowed it to be substituted for hit/miss AI drivel ... I mentioned a few posts back https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-p2-v0-225-p1-v0-152-lust-passion.5944/post-18640780 about the disconnect from the story, the use of rubbish AI, and the derogation of the characters this post will deliver...

The AI used in the artwork that is changing Patricia and Sophia into almost unrecognisable characters is also reflected into the personality changes that in the cannon of the story that is completely mystifying to me.. Now this coming from me who over time has become the corruptor of the base story through my fan art GN, and who has been criticised numerous times because of it, leaves me scratching my head in confusion as L&P has time and time again talked the big game .. The comments (Praise) I see over a non related story arc that will end here for players, that, and remember this, will not contribute into later chapters, and is being talked up just because the MC might drop to her knees and gobble the cock of a completely insignificant character.. Could be argued is just to up Dev's Subscribers prior to Xmas, and further, I will repeat here again "Might" "maybe" give a BJ to a character that will never appear again in the game, but also will not contribute in anyway to future corruption, and not being mentioned, too be ever be in the game again... He/She is being praised that this might be the best update ever????? Sorry... I must be missing something here... Are all the player's of this game so shallow that you cant see what is going on? or are all just L&P (Sophia) sheep, come on!!!... There is good story telling.. and there is instant gratification... OOhhh my bad... I suppose I answered my own question there huh... I hope you can you see though the fog????... My two cents...
"Let the chuch say...Amen!" :ROFLMAO: :love:
 
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ST-9Pol

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"Let the church say...Amen!" :ROFLMAO: :love:
It is sad but true.. I don't as a rule comment on on anything as a throw away or trivial items, and I have always not questioned or criticised the "Game" directly.. But following the progress as I do thru the gallery, and running in parallel with my GN in an alternate timeline for the past 5 years, even if only watching the game evolve as my fan art story also did on a completely different storyline... It does give me pause, and I think to question.. WTF...
 

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It is sad but true.. I don't as a rule comment on on anything as a throw away or trivial items, and I have always not questioned or criticised the "Game" directly.. But following the progress as I do thru the gallery, and running in parallel with my GN in an alternate timeline for the past 5 years, even if only watching the game evolve as my fan art story also did on a completely different storyline... It does give me pause, and I think to question.. WTF...
Ikr??? But it also leads me to believe the notion that if you give a starving man a few morsels of food then starve him again, you will keep him around looking for more. That way, when you feed him bugs or crap, he'll be Grateful for Whatever you give him. It's similar to Stockholm Syndrome.
 

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From what I can see, and this I know will be an unpopular comment.. But L&P has become his own Fan art creator with these side arc updates, he no longer uses his own base characters for the renders produced, and instead has substituted the quality artwork he/she was famous for, and allowed it to be substituted for hit/miss AI drivel ... I mentioned a few posts back https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-p2-v0-225-p1-v0-152-lust-passion.5944/post-18640780 about the disconnect from the story, the use of rubbish AI, and the derogation of the characters this post will deliver...

The AI used in the artwork that is changing Patricia and Sophia into almost unrecognisable characters is also reflected into the personality changes that in the cannon of the story that is completely mystifying to me.. Now this coming from me who over time has become the corruptor of the base story through my fan art GN, and who has been criticised numerous times because of it, leaves me scratching my head in confusion as L&P has time and time again talked the big game .. The comments (Praise) I see over a non related story arc that will end here for players, that, and remember this, will not contribute into later chapters, and is being talked up just because the MC might drop to her knees and gobble the cock of a completely insignificant character.. Could be argued is just to up Dev's Subscribers prior to Xmas, and further, I will repeat here again "Might" "maybe" give a BJ to a character that will never appear again in the game, but also will not contribute in anyway to future corruption, and not being mentioned, too be ever be in the game again... He/She is being praised that this might be the best update ever????? Sorry... I must be missing something here... Are all the player's of this game so shallow that you cant see what is going on? or are all just L&P (Sophia) sheep, come on!!!... There is good story telling.. and there is instant gratification... OOhhh my bad... I suppose I answered my own question there huh... I hope you can you see though the fog????... My two cents...
Dude, I'm not bothered by this crappy "museum at night" episode anymore. It's exactly like you said, it's for horny patrons, and it has nothing to do with the story. And I'm calm because in my game Sophia didn't go with the little kids, whose mothers wouldn't let her go after dark anyway, but she sleeps at home, snuggled up with her beloved son. I don't care what Patricia does either, even if she has a gangbang in a dirty dark alley, it doesn't advance the story. Anyone who's not stupid knows that all the side stories are just to make the game last longer and to set a fucking record in the "Longest to complete" category... That's it...
 

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that's the word: Stockholm Syndrome....
I just wonder: wouldn't it be better for everyone if L&P stopped with the same old "pretend and then do nothing" thing and started showing some healthy sex? But if that were the case, the visual novel would end very soon and with it the Patreon money... that's why L&P can't help but continue to take the piss out of its Patreons with the same old "tease and back off" bullshit...
Personally, I've had enough of it years ago, so I don't expect anything from this game anymore, but if L&P were to wake up and get some sense into it, it wouldn't be bad...
so still just wondering: you can make fun of anyone, but you can't do it twice, and no one can do it forever... so this absurd "make a promise and then go back" trend won't last forever: at a certain point, L&P will have to show some balls or he will lose even his most die-hard fans...
 

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Ikr??? But it also leads me to believe the notion that if you give a starving man a few morsels of food then starve him again, you will keep him around looking for more. That way, when you feed him bugs or crap, he'll be Grateful for Whatever you give him. It's similar to Stockholm Syndrome.
Yes but no... The L&P fans to me that are represtensive of those here in this thread are story driven, yes they were not happy with the delays between the posts, but always praised (mostly) the content... Now after 0.025 we have a diametrical change with the use of AI.. The narrative (One I myself was part of) that animations was not necessary and were a distraction, But what we have seen after 0.025 is now silence on Ai animations in the grand scheme of things.. This in short is meaning that AI will play a bigger part of the game (not to the benefit, but to the demise, my opinion only, and I long for the day one, or all of you can prove me wrong)... OK.. yes.. if this ups the update time fair enough, but, you also need to be OK that Sophia might on occasion have 6 fingers and not be recognisable, cars might have headlights out the back, and Patricia has boob's growing out her back.. These are things that when L&P with his eye for the finer points, and importantly for detail, never let past... I fear, this is a time of change, and the golden age is dead...
 
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Dude, I'm not bothered by this crappy "museum at night" episode anymore. It's exactly like you said, it's for horny patrons, and it has nothing to do with the story. And I'm calm because in my game Sophia didn't go with the little kids, whose mothers wouldn't let her go after dark anyway, but she sleeps at home, snuggled up with her beloved son. I don't care what Patricia does either, even if she has a gangbang in a dirty dark alley, it doesn't advance the story. Anyone who's not stupid knows that all the side stories are just to make the game last longer and to set a fucking record in the "Longest to complete" category... That's it...
My point completely, and I agree with you reply... Each player has there own connection with the narrative.. But in this thread there seems to be an unbiased view based on Ranch, Prom event, Birthday Party, Sam, Dylan, Ellie, blah, blah, blah, Etc etc etc...
The view goes from one story based thing to another, to another to the update, "du jour".... , and the Dev keeps spinning the merry-go-round, around, and around, and around.... till we all fall off...
 
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My point completely, and I agree with you reply... Each player has there own connection with the narrative.. But in this thread there seems to be an unbiased view based on Ranch, Prom event, Birthday Party, Sam, Dylan, Ellie, blah, blah, blah, Etc etc etc...
The view goes from one story based thing to another, to another to the update, "du jour".... , and the Dev keeps spinning the merry-go-round, around, and around, and around.... till will all fall down...
And with your answer you said the point, why it takes 8 years to update a game and no one sees the light at the end of the tunnel... Even the biggest fanatics have to see that it's nonsense after all this time that there's still only 1 sex scene a year with the husband (maybe I'm exaggerating now). If I look at all the tags that belong to the game, I can only frown in amazement... I never said that LP doesn't have talent for a game, but with so much talent and creativity, he should be working on his second game, so that Sophia can already live her life as a happy retiree... But what he's doing now is unfortunately a waste of talent...
 

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I just wonder: wouldn't it be better for everyone if L&P stopped with the same old "pretend and then do nothing" thing and started showing some healthy sex? But if that were the case, the visual novel would end very soon and with it the Patreon money... that's why L&P can't help but continue to take the piss out of its Patreons with the same old "tease and back off" bullshit...
Plenty of visual novels (including ones with female protagonists) have/show "healthy sex" throughout and sometimes even start from that point, rather than end as soon as a penis goes into a vagina. The idea this would somehow spell quick end of the game is simply false.
 

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LP you will be remembered for generations , i had a doubt that my 9 year old son is playing adult games , so i thought to test him , while having dinner i said patricia will be banged , instantly my son said yeah i think so ,heinstantly looked at me and remained silent , its been 2 days he didnot meet me and didnot came out of his room.
 

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Guys for real now...Don't she looks fantastic from behind? My favorite fantasy is one depicted so awesomely by general Butch...the classic thong on the side while business gets taken care for...Miyagi or no Miyagi...A Cobra Kai is what is needed before working this ass...
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