VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Cesar43]

Hi, how do I play the women's part when they go to the disco?

 

[keefer43]

I believe that the "interaction" between Sophia and Dylan might happen accidentally - Masks / some other kind of in-personal event where Sophia (the MC) does not know who the other party really is. We imagine that her motivation is quite different than Dylan's - so the setup will need to be creative as each perspective would be quite divergent. We know Dylan's motivation - very simple and direct, not unlike Aiden's in many ways. I do agree that the Sam &/ Zac route will most likely take a more conventional approach and arrive much sooner (relatively). That line/obstacle for Sophia to cross for Dylan's benefit is immense compared to the other two. Lots of small references to a group/gangbang thing - not sure where that is going - but it has come up more than once. I think we are in for a lot of teasing in the next few episodes, then things will start flowing downhill as the rising tide is finally released in a flood (hopefully). Check out the AWAM Fan Art section - many very creative works there.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I believe that the "interaction" between Sophia and Dylan might happen accidentally - Masks / some other kind of in-personal event where Sophia (the MC) does not know who the other party really is. We imagine that her motivation is quite different than Dylan's - so the setup will need to be creative as each perspective would be quite divergent. We know Dylan's motivation - very simple and direct, not unlike Aiden's in many ways. I do agree that the Sam &/ Zac route will most likely take a more conventional approach and arrive much sooner (relatively). That line/obstacle for Sophia to cross for Dylan's benefit is immense compared to the other two. Lots of small references to a group/gangbang thing - not sure where that is going - but it has come up more than once. I think we are in for a lot of teasing in the next few episodes, then things will start flowing downhill as the rising tide is finally released in a flood (hopefully). Check out the AWAM Fan Art section - many very creative works there.

Update v0.115, and especially the dream sex scene with Larry but also the way that Sophia was looking at DeShawn's cock in the sauna, did feel as if things were beginning to accelerate. (To the extent some were concerned might even be moving too fast too soon given the previous story).

We will be able to guess more clearly after we have seen update v0.130 next month. Will the afternoon's events continue the progress glimpsed in the morning? With Sam's concert to come in the evening. I am hoping this Playable Day will in hindsight be the pivotal day when things started accelerating in the direction we all hope that Sophia will get too soon.

But at the moment - hope is all it is, as I am trying to keep my expectations in check. I suspect my interpretation of a "Hot Event" is wildly different to L&P's.

 

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[ancienregimele]

Here is his 3 of 4 goal since ~2 years, I guess:
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With all the goals complete instead of being faster, the updates have become much slower.

and the last goal is funny too:
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He may have sincerely held those goals once but now we know that when they're achieved, the goalposts will probably be moved again, as in the past. Targets need to be realistic & achievable & these are. When they're moving targets....not so much. IMO these could do with removal &/or replacement.

 

[Deleted member 1023239]

No sex, except Liam. Full frontal nude: Liam/Dylan and Ellie/Patricia/Marie/Claire.

Dylan only partial nudes, half of sophia pubes, and sophia bare breast

 

[ancienregimele]

Dear, L&P didn't say no! His attempts to find helpers were unsuccessful.
We can talk about it, but it is an extremely difficult task to find a competent assistant!
An even more difficult issue is the understanding between the L&P and the applicant.
Therefore, if this ever happens, it will be great luck for all of us.

I won't pretend successful recruitment, retention & development is easy but there are a number of ways it can be done. L&P should draft a person specification for exactly the kind of Assistant he requires, then send it to me & we'll take it from there. I'm serious....advice provided gratis from someone who's recruited into 100's of roles, everything from GP's to Martial Arts Instructors. It's work but it's not rocket science.

 

[Atton563]

Ellie is definitively a manipulator.
It is the one who pushes the others to the fault.

Dylan :
Ellie deliberately chooses her brother to fix her pc
She gives a lot of details about the content, a future temptation for Dylan ?

Sophia :
shower : she asks to take a shower together

club :

shower :

spa :
she invites Patricia, then when Sophia and Patricia are chatting, she asks them to look the 'big tool'

Emma : day 13, it is the one who suggests to go shopping to spend a mother-daughter time
then Sophia invites Emma, Ellie is a little disappointed, she gets excited when Sophia tells that Emma want to try something new.
At the clothing store, she's the one asking bras and panties ( I don't think Sophia was thinking about underwear for Emma )

and after suggest to go together in the changing room

then Sophia to get naked

etc. I stop because it will take too long
But I (we) could give dozens of examples.

It is after Sophia, the character who could most triggered hot events

I've always felt Ellie was so hard on Dylan at the start of the game about being a "perv" and "freak" becuse she maybe felt that something was wrong with her as she mentioned she's always thought her mom was hot and was actually just projecting, but since seeing her cool aunt makeout with her mom it's made her more self confidant in the feelings she has for Sofia and attraction she is maybe developing for Dylan (I noticed it on day 1/2 after his haircut she seemed to check himout and then was mean right after becuse she still felt it was wrong to think like that at the time?).

 

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[ancienregimele]

First off: I have never, ever, ever offered an opinion on who will fuck Sophia first - only very recently that I think Aiden will jump ahead of Sam and Dylan in the the race to Sophia's tender bits. So I'm not sure where you're coming from on the first point.

I don't recall ever commenting on removing "the twist", if I did I don't recall so I probably didn't feel too strongly about it either way.

And, you're not presenting an accurate summary of my opinion of Dylan. It can be summed up in two main components:
First, I don't want anything presented from Dylan's POV (or anyone else's for that matter) because I prefer the developer focus exclusively on Sophia and her POV. L&P is well on track to deliver a master class (as far as erotic/porn VN are concerned, context does matter) on a female MC story. There's tons of teen boys lusting after hot girls, ladies and older women being told from the teen boy's perspective so I'm not especially interested in another version of it. Especially to the extent that it adds development time (the yoga event was done twice and all I learned from Dylan's perspective is that hot chicks are really hot, especially when they are in skin tight clothing and even hotter still when they are naked. ??? That's a POV that ain't worth telling again, especially not in this story).

Second, I don't think, as I see the character of Sophia, which is my own synthesis based on how I process what I read and see when playing this game and based on my in-game choices which are likely not identical to yours, Sophia would ever take Dylan's dick insider her vagina unless she's no longer Sophia, meaning her transformation and degradation is so severe that she's unrecognizable to the character we met in the first few days, even to herself. Therefore, it is my conclusion from my opinion and impressions that if Sophia ever does take Dylan's dick into her vagina it will be because of a conscious choice of the author do decimate the character he created and present a doppelganger in her stead.

I'm not entirely sure that make me a brick wall?

There will have to be 'copulation' with Dylan at some point, judging by what's gone before & to satisfy the Dylan fans. It's so far in the future that it's not worth thinking about too much. That being said IMO, I think with the way things are going that the game could well have been abandoned by then, or we'll perhaps be playing something else. That would be sad but at least we'd always have San Alejo.

Either way, I'll be giving it a miss. I do like the choices....sometimes.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

In order for Dylan to have sex with Sophia, not only doe she need to be corrupted but I think there needs to be an additional push. We know that there's a cuckold element to Dylan's story, so I wonder if him watching/catching Sophia having sex with someone else will give him the opening. Not in a blackmail way, but in a "Oh no, Dylan saw me with Sam. Maybe I need to make him happy so he keeps his mouth shut."

I don't know. While I know it's going to happen for sure, I can't come up with a scenario in which it feels natural. I think the time jumps are going to be really important for Dylan, especially if it provides L&P the opportunity to fill in story elements that will advance their relationship. If the game was only 30 CONSECUTIVE days, I don't think Dylan would have a shot. So Dylan's relationship with Sophia needs to take some big steps and the time jumps can help with that.

 

[m4pII]

Several of us have commented in the past that L&P seems to write the female characters better than male characters. As a confirmed heterosexual male I started playing the game wanting to see how much dick Sophia could take. But having played the game when I came up with the list of who I wanted to see Sophia have sex with by the end of the game (across various routes and so not all on one playthrough) it was like 70%-80% female.

Depending on what happens at Cathy's Hen Party that's 9 or 10 lovely ladies!!

And the girls have definitely got further with Sophia so far.

That's right, this is the first thing that caught my eye during the game. Sorry for my rudeness, but Sophia needs to be fucked well)
And I do not see any "man" in this game capable of this.
Therefore, for now, I'm only interested in the Lesbian route)

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[ancienregimele]

Most of the time, people give themselves skills that they don't quite have.

Instead, he should open a skill competition to see who is capable of making a good rendering. For example, describe a situation (characters, place, time of day, event) and ask for some renderings

This is the only way to start the selection of candidates. Otherwise too many people will say : I can !

Let's not forget that the main thing is to provide quickly renderings (good quality and quantity).

The management of the story falls to L&P

Then it will be the personality, who is motivated enough? able to understand and follow instructions ? And a trustworthy person of course.

You're correct but this is jumping ahead. This type of test should occur once a shortlist has been drafted. If the recruitment is done correctly this should consist of a number of individuals who can do the job. It would then be down to L&P to judge who were the best at this stage & who, if any, would progress further into the process. How the ad(s) are worded should serve as a first filter for potential applicants. This could include the information that practical tests were planned & thus deter the 'too hopefuls.'

Initial ads could stress the self-motivation factor but ultimately this would be up to the Dev as the Manager.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

That's right, this is the first thing that caught my eye during the game. Sorry for my rudeness, but Sophia needs to be fucked well)
And I do not see any "man" in this game capable of this.
Therefore, for now, I'm only interested in the Lesbian route)

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When we first met Don Morello at the casino, and the way he talked to Sophia, well he seemed the perfect guy to romance Sophia. But unfortunately in the next scene when Sophia and Liam visit his office, Don Morello reveals that he is happily married. And L&P has said in Patreon posts previously shared to this thread, that there is NO prospect of Indecent Proposal scenario. So I had to get off the Don Morello train.

Of the younger guys, Sam seems best placed to appeal to Sophia from a more romantic perspective. I am intrigued as to what will happen after this evening's Rock concert.

Of course there will be many players who hope that a "Bad Boy" will fuck Sophia senseless. I guess they are hoping for sex for either Larry or Aiden. If that was to actually happen in the future then I would probably play through that scene, but won't be my main Game Saves.

I presume you mean Jessica O'Neill in JOHN, I won't talk about it too much on AWAM thread to avoid going too far off-topic. But I did like the way she is escalating things with Mr Parker (having so far given hi a Handjob and footrubbing), she has flirted with Tommy, and let Mayor finger her to orgasm). I have commented before that it is easier for Jessica to be corrupted than Sophia due to differences in age/marital status/career. Plus I suspect that L&P and Stoper are trying to tell different stories, both of which I can enjoy in different ways.

 

[Bullx]

That's right, this is the first thing that caught my eye during the game. Sorry for my rudeness, but Sophia needs to be fucked well)
And I do not see any "man" in this game capable of this.
Therefore, for now, I'm only interested in the Lesbian route)

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i see a lot of Man who can do this : Jason or Haru, Sam, Zac, Aiden, Mr. Benett usw

 

[Deleted member 3491279]

I'm not experience is many things i life and maybe what i saying is completly wrong but i note that many people in his 40s try to add more spicy in his sexual activities like swinging or roleplay. Maybe they are just tired of conventional sex and maybe that's what happen to Sophia. And i think this game is more about fulfil their hidden desires than just sleep with someone else than her huband. So attraction i don't think that works in this case, is more cut that part in the brain that says to us don't do that.

 

[m4pII]

When we first met Don Morello at the casino, and the way he talked to Sophia, well he seemed the perfect guy to romance Sophia. But unfortunately in the next scene when Sophia and Liam visit his office, Don Morello reveals that he is happily married. And L&P has said in Patreon posts previously shared to this thread, that there is NO prospect of Indecent Proposal scenario. So I had to get off the Don Morello train.

Of the younger guys, Sam seems best placed to appeal to Sophia from a more romantic perspective. I am intrigued as to what will happen after this evening's Rock concert.

Of course there will be many players who hope that a "Bad Boy" will fuck Sophia senseless. I guess they are hoping for sex for either Larry or Aiden. If that was to actually happen in the future then I would probably play through that scene, but won't be my main Game Saves.

I presume you mean Jessica O'Neill in JOHN, I won't talk about it too much on AWAM thread to avoid going too far off-topic. But I did like the way she is escalating things with Mr Parker (having so far given hi a Handjob and footrubbing), she has flirted with Tommy, and let Mayor finger her to orgasm). I have commented before that it is easier for Jessica to be corrupted than Sophia due to differences in age/marital status/career. Plus I suspect that L&P and Stoper are trying to tell different stories, both of which I can enjoy in different ways.

The problem is that I just don't see “men” who have a chance to do this.
Almost all of the main male characters are virgin boys. They are not capable of this.
I know that I am in the absolute minority here.
But I cannot take them seriously.

I really liked the scenes with men in the sauna and club.There were no serious intimate scenes, but the level of eroticism, dialogues, the characters themselves, and the scenes were staged perfectly.
I am very sorry that the author decided not to continue this storyline.

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[Cold brew]

Well, it's just written in a obtuse way. Just dropped in like that, without thinking. Made an assertion that you made up yourself and like so many here who make negative comments about Dylan, are not true. Maybe you are only after "likes" with this quote. Also possible. Definitely get a like from Cat, cold brew, viper and whatever their names are. Yeah!!!

Ok. I don't dispute you love Dylan and you think he walks on water. Bottom line, you want him to stick it to Sophia. Everyone has a favorite. The big picture is that everyone somehow hopes Sophia will get the soul breaking orgasms she deserves. All agree. The young, the old, all men and women, gay or straight, this includes extra terrestrials in all other galaxies... and most especially Sophia. She is the Center of our universe here. Everyone definitely does not want this game to be abandoned.

I have been able to separate out what you wish Dylan to be and what he actually is. Those two things are drastically different. I am only stating truth and following the facts. Just desperately trying to save others from drowning in Dylan induced traumas of frustration. Forgive me for getting emotional when he threatens the future of the game and delays the updates.

I don't hate you or others who sympathize with your emotion. I feel for you because Dylan Mind fcks with those who listen to him. What pisses me off is that he is such a cockblocker. This is purely based on his underhanded and deceitful ways he has Fck'd with everyone on this thread and L&P. Dylan milks your sympathies with his manipulations. After a year of this, I have accepted you don't see it that way. I have never attacked you or tried to rub it in when the truth was exposed on the points I had been saying previously. In fact, after Dylan's big reveal in boarding school, I went silent for well over 6 months. I Had sympathy. I let you have your time to heal and come to terms with what he was really like.

My honest advise is this. Somehow imagine Zach or Sam as Sophia's. You pick. Convince yourself somehow this is true. Then you got a shot with what you wish. Hell, Sophia wishes that Sam was hers already. Dylan can never happen. It is a trap. If the trap is sprung, then the universe ends.

 

[Zardoz1992]

This whole game is a long tease. I will return in 2025 when Sophia finally has an orgasm

 

[Bishop Robert]

I found it hard to believe to but kinda makes sense in a way, Also she has no reason to lie about it since it clearly embarresed her unless she's a master manipulater like Patrica.

I would be kinda of like to see Dylan and Ellie lose there virginity to each other since Sofia all but told her to make sure it's with a guy she loves and well she's gotta love her bro right?

I would enjoy Dylan and Ellie, I actully would like Dylan and Auntie Patricia . Never had the idea of those two until that yoga event.