VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[ashitanojoe]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Would you have preferred remaining with the old renders quality and having the double amount of content by now? Or do you prefer having the new renders quality despite of the slow development?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sophia with a man(other than her husband) will happen on Playable day 16 and is described as "A very hot and big hetero scene",nothing else is known.
Sophia with a female could be Alyssa as they are due to meet on Playable day 18 .
There last meeting was the "ignition point"in there relationship, as for Ellie/Vicky/Nat I don't think we know.

playable day 16 is the something "wild" event and Ellie day, and the first sex scene is playable day 19.

Alyssa is due back on playable day 17, and good news that the coaching job was dropped, so that event is back on track.

 

[keefer43]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Would you have preferred remaining with the old renders quality and having the double amount of content by now? Or do you prefer having the new renders quality despite of the slow development?

Double the content, please.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Double the content, please.

This

 

[Tennyson@]

playable day 16 is the something "wild" event and Ellie day, and the first sex scene is playable day 19.

Alyssa is due back on playable day 17, and good news that the coaching job was dropped, so that event is back on track.

What about the time period it will take to reach there it's a long wait.....

 

[Talcum Powder]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Do you would have preferred stay with the old renders quality and have the double amount of content by now? Or have the new renders quality despite of the slow development?

Let's first evaluate the premise of your question for a moment. If you did a side-by-side from release one or two and compared them to the last two releases the change in quality is fairly obvious, and the later renders are really amazing quality. That said, I'm pretty sure if we had taken a poll after the first few releases the percent who thought those renders were bad would have been pretty small. Not too many early posts were about how this game was an amateurish endeavor or the renders were poor.

If L&P had stuck to the original process/technique and we were getting the same quality as day one in every subsequent release then no one is the wiser. If we're being honest and simply considering what would have been, we'd all want more content by now.

I think the real question, or at least a better question, is, if a picture is worth a thousand words then why does L&P need so many pictures and so many words?

My opinion at this point is that it is not the quality of the images or even the complexity of the scenes that is a major problem - they are gorgeous. The problem is we are getting so many more images covering so much less of the story.

 

[Tennyson@]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Would you have preferred remaining with the old renders quality and having the double amount of content by now? Or do you prefer having the new renders quality despite of the slow development?

Old is gold

 

[m4pII]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Would you have preferred remaining with the old renders quality and having the double amount of content by now? Or do you prefer having the new renders quality despite of the slow development?

For me personally, the plot and characters are always above the image.
Moreover, this is a good saving of subscribers' money.
Therefore, the choice is obvious.

 

[Alley_Cat]

What about the time period it will take to reach there it's a long wait.....

At 4 months per update, the end of playable day 16 will be released around August 2025 and playable day 19 at July 2028. These are of course rough estimates, since we don't know how complicated the future events will be.

 

[Talcum Powder]

At 4 months per update, the end of playable day 16 will be released around August 2025 and playable day 19 at July 2028. These are of course rough estimates, since we don't know how complicated the future events will be.

Which puts playable day 30 around 2038. Wow.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Which puts playable day 30 around 2038. Wow.

End of May 2039 according to my spreadsheet. Even if L&P manages to keep to the 2 monthly updates he said he was aiming for, that's still March 2030 to finish the game.

 

[bluehound36]

Which puts playable day 30 around 2038. Wow.

If it actually takes that long to complete, the odds are better that it'll just wind up abandoned if the dev doesn't end up speeding things along.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Isn't there a rich guy here who can buy this story from L&P, then hire him to finish writing the story and hire a couple of developers who can do the renders way faster?

 

[crusher3]

can i have the bikini show save? thanks all caps!

 

[Ivrol]

Isn't there a rich guy here who can buy this story from L&P, then hire him to finish writing the story and hire a couple of developers who can do the renders way faster?

He gets minimum 3000 dollars by month, multiply by the years of development, thats alot of money: minimum 300k dollars by his story.

 

[Bane71]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Would you have preferred remaining with the old renders quality and having the double amount of content by now? Or do you prefer having the new renders quality despite of the slow development?

For all the beauty and quality of the extreme drawings, I would choose more history, quick update.

In addition, the quality of the renders can be improved after the game is completed. Then it will not be so critical.

Isn't there a rich guy here who can buy this story from L&P, then hire him to finish writing the story and hire a couple of developers who can do the renders way faster?

If finances allowed me, I would do just that. But unfortunately, my account, both in the bank and in the bitcoin wallet, is not of that level.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

It was a mistake to upscale to 1080p. The graphics were already good a couple updates ago, we didn't need all the bells and whistles that he's added. I've said before that L&P is an artist first and foremost, he isn't a game designer. He's so hung up on the art that he has lost track of the larger game that the images are supposed to serve. I can see L&P becoming a creator that just makes single images and sells them on Patreon. He's most comfortable when he's spending hours on a single image tweaking the lighting or the placement of pigeons. Everything else, including the story, is secondary.

 

[Tennyson@]

At 4 months per update, the end of playable day 16 will be released around August 2025 and playable day 19 at July 2028. These are of course rough estimates, since we don't know how complicated the future events will be.

So it will take 7-8 years from the beginning of the game to reach its first sex scene on corruption route

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

At 4 months per update, the end of playable day 16 will be released around August 2025 and playable day 19 at July 2028. These are of course rough estimates, since we don't know how complicated the future events will be.

I was going to say, four months sounds optimistic right now. Unless L&P gets major pushback from his Patrons, I think he will continue to stretch the development cycles. I still hesitate to use the word "milker" because I don't think he's milking people, but until he gets pushback his only incentive is to keep doing what he wants to do. If that means spending a whole week on a single image he'll do it unless his Patrons get pissed. From where I sit right now, I think we'll only get two updates this year. If that happens, and nothing changes from L&P, 2022 could see similar output.

I think 2021 is shaping up to be a critical year for this game. Not only do we see the game itself taking a radical turn in how it presents Sophia, but we're also seeing an evolution in its development. I think we're at an inflection point in which the game can either hit its stride with regular releases, or it can begin to grind to a halt. A month ago I didn't think this game was in danger of being abandoned, but I would be a liar if I said there aren't warning signs now.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

I was going to say, four months sounds optimistic right now. Unless L&P gets major pushback from his Patrons, I think he will continue to stretch the development cycles. I still hesitate to use the word "milker" because I don't think he's milking people, but until he gets pushback his only incentive is to keep doing what he wants to do. If that means spending a whole week on a single image he'll do it unless his Patrons get pissed. From where I sit right now, I think we'll only get two updates this year. If that happens, and nothing changes from L&P, 2022 could see similar output.

I think 2021 is shaping up to be a critical year for this game. Not only do we see the game itself taking a radical turn in how it presents Sophia, but we're also seeing an evolution in its development. I think we're at an inflection point in which the game can either hit its stride with regular releases, or it can begin to grind to a halt. A month ago I didn't think this game was in danger of being abandoned, but I would be a liar if I said there aren't warning signs now.

Regarding being abandoned, this game has been showing those signs since last year.
The dev himself won't address the "this game will only be finished in 20 years at this rate" issue and if he had any intention of finishing this VN he would have already made changes to its development. So far the changes he makes are always in a way that it stretches development even more.