VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Kink shaming is kink shaming, no matter the opinion someone has, because the opinion doesn't matter, because he is shaming others because of their sexual kinks (even if it is "cloaked" in a question, but people with a certain degree of education will notice such linguistic nuances). Won't become better because of an opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone got one. He could be a sexual therapist to make his opinion even more educated than ours normal peasants, it would be still kink shaming. That's not what I do.

But I don't want to discuss this anymore. Better someone tell me when I should check the thread again to see Ellie getting fucked. don't care who it is, just wanna see her getting fucked. 2026, 2027?

Probably the culmination of the Ellie route, around PD21. So more like 2036-37.

 

[Hotcoupleeasy]

AWAM gives you the option of pursuing a non-traditional Mother son relationship.

Here are a few others:

Lust Theory S1 (fully voiced) Ground Hog Day leads to Mother Son sex
No More Money - No Mothter Son sex yet (now in Early S3) but some great slow burn and more genuine relationship build up

Are they the equal of AWAM in all things - No.

They do tell a story from start to finish or tell a story that actually feels like it is moving in a definite direction and towards some kind of ending (and you get immersion from this, or at least there is enough for me to enjoy the immersion) - Yes.

Here is the reality - AWAM, especially after the first few PDs, has very good renders and a detailed story where Many different fetishes can be pursued.

L&P's added some animations:
* They take too long to create, based on what I see in other creators' work
* I don't trust L&P to be honest with us - and us includes paying supporters like me - because he has said repeatedly that the animations will not delay release of new revs and then they do
* He is still learning how to do animations and, even if the guy in the mirror is his animation creator, I give him credit for trying to add an important component to any good/great AVN out today

The problem is that AWAM is simply Too Ambitious and creating all of the paths for all of the different Sophia/Ellie/Dylan (and even Liam) desires takes a LONG time for a one-man shop.

L&P even admitted this early on, which is why there is no Liam cheating path early on when it looks like Sophia catches Liam with a younger woman in a women's clothing store (the younger woman is Liam's Bosses' youngest daughter).

There are very few AVNs out there that tell a great story, have top tier renders, animations, music, and sound, all while maintaining production speed and consistent production values. I think Summers Gone and Chasing Sunsets either has these or checks almost every box, but they don't have the Mother Son relationship you are looking for.

Nothing equal to AWAM. Other games are funny and a real joke. AWAM story and renders are so unique.

 

[McZoy]

Probably the culmination of the Ellie route, around PD21. So more like 2036-37.

Please stop giving us numbers

 

[McZoy]

^ This, pretty much.

Sure, AWAM has the potential to be complex with all the routes. But with L&P developing 1 PD in 2 years, this potential for complexity is turning into nothingness. There's people out there who aren't getting any content for AGES in their playthroughs due to the slow development. You're basically talking about a product we could have in 30 years, but currently most routes are not progressing at all, or at a pace where complexity is not the right word to describe it, imo. Just a bunch of dead-ends.

So yeah, the potential is there. But like Alley_Cat said, L&P is developing the game in a way where many routes fall completely flat due to the pace at which new updates come out. That, and the ridiculous size for a single scene which results in almost zero progress story-wise.

That, to me, is not real complexity. It's more of a waiting game for something that'll never see the end of it. But yeah, I should have worded it differently. I guess in a way you could say it's too complex even, which is the byproduct you mentioned. It all comes down to the slow development in the end, which is why this potential for complexity is going nowhere. It's an illusion. That's where L&P's statement is making me shake my head as he's simply dishonest with his supporters.

AWAM will be L&P heritage to his children. After the end of AWAM in 30 years from now, AWAM 2 will come.

 

[Good Cossutius]

Why do you want to see a dude fuck any woman? Is it fun, to watch others dudes fuck? Is it fun to watch a pre pubescent kid get laid with beautiful woman? This dylan-sam crap is still going on this thread. Wow, grown men like this stuff. That should tell you everything about what is wrong with the world.

Ellie-Sophia is the only good thing I see in this game. Best fictional couple ever. This is the way to go. Let's go.

What a moronic comment. You don't get to decide what will turn people on. I find that lesbian shit extremely boring but I don't think people who are turned on by it are "what's wrong with this world". What fucking entitlement. You're a fucking creep jerking off to incest porn like the rest of us and you think you can judge what's wrong with the world, lmao.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

Why do you want to see a dude fuck any woman? Is it fun, to watch others dudes fuck? Is it fun to watch a pre pubescent kid get laid with beautiful woman? This dylan-sam crap is still going on this thread. Wow, grown men like this stuff. That should tell you everything about what is wrong with the world.

Ellie-Sophia is the only good thing I see in this game. Best fictional couple ever. This is the way to go. Let's go.

So you’ve never watched porn? Or you only watch lesbian porn only? You do know you have options and choices for Sophia to shut down Dylan and Sam right or any guys in the game

 

[Dan5k74]

Out of curiosity for those who were here early on (I was here early too but I wasn’t paying much attention to this game’s releases at the time),

how long did it take for each update and how much of an ingame day was in each update?

If I understand your request correctly, all the information you are looking for should be contained in this post.

 

[palmtrees89]

If I understand your request correctly, all the information you are looking for should be contained in this post.

Oh damn, didn't know this post was a thing. Thanks for sharing!

(I will update the stats after every update, so you can see the progress in one page)
Duration of an update per playable day (excluding day 1 and 2):

	Duration	from - to (dd.mm.yyyy)
Day 3	102 days	22.10.2017 - 01.02.2018
Day 4 & 11 (playable day 4)	88 days	01.02.2018 - 30.04.2018
Day 12 (playable day 5)	50 days	30.04.2018 - 19.06.2018
Day 13 (p.d. 6)	28 days	19.06.2018 - 17.07.2018
Day 14 (p.d. 7)	77 days	17.07.2018 - 02.10.2018
Day 15 (p.d. 8)	95 days	02.10.2018 - 05.01.2019
Day 16 (p.d. 9)	153 days	05.01.2019 - 07.06.2019
Day 17 (p.d. 10)	204 days	07.06.2019 - 28.12.2019
Day 18 (p.d. 11)	258 days	28.12.2019 - 11.09.2020
Day 19 (p.d. 12)	435 days	11.09.2020 - 20.11.2021
Day 20 (p.d. 13) (6 of 11 parts released)	in development	in development

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Alot of effort goes into this one. Thank you, quency77!

This perfectly showcases what's wrong with the development of AWAM. The difference between PD11 and PD12 was already massive, but PD13 is gonna set yet another record, of that I'm sure. It's only gotten slower ever since PD6, never the other way around.

PD11: 1862 renders total, 258 days of development, ~7.2 renders per day

PD12: 2338 renders total, 435 days of development, ~5.3 renders per day

PD13: Currently 1646 renders after release 6/11, ~365 days of development, ~4.5 renders per day

I have a feeling that the rest of PD13 is gonna reduce the current average render per day count even further. Makes you wonder what PD14 is gonna be like.

 

[GagaAmber22]

If I understand your request correctly, all the information you are looking for should be contained in this post.

Thank you for this quency77. And thank you Dan5k74 for your reply.

 

[merin_aspic]

PD11: 1862 renders total, 258 days of development, ~7.2 renders per day

PD12: 2338 renders total, 435 days of development, ~5.3 renders per day

PD13: Currently 1646 renders after release 6/11, ~365 days of development, ~4.5 renders per day

A rethorical question: Why?

 

[palmtrees89]

A rethorical question: Why?

Just received the answer to your question from ICSTOR and Gumdrops; Yes.

 

[lockerxx]

i want more lesbian Content in 2023. the only event with lesbian content are the Sophie/Dylan/Claire/Marie or Dylan/Emma. maybe?

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[GagaAmber22]

It's been 38 days since the last update.
Excluding the 7 days week off due to his move and the Christmas holidays he has worked for about 28-30 days for this upcoming update.
As per the recent development speed, I think he would require about 45 days to complete the current one. Which means that it would be out around mid-january (+15 days) or the end of it depending upon the no. of renders this event has.
Which means we have to wait till Feb to play the next version. (public version)
I hope there is something exciting in this update or else it would be a shame to wait for almost 2 months for just some fancy hair cutting scene.
However if the next event is as big as L&P claims it to be then I'd gladly wait for 2-3 months for it to be completed.
Hope that he/she delivers this on time. Good luck for the development!

 

[bayrischman]

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no progress since december 20th,

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

no progress since december 20th,

yes, it was already anticipated

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

A rethorical question: Why?

Why not? Cash keeps flowing unobstructed.

 

[connor1518]

Sorry but what a complete train wreck. The only way to salvage this one is to scrap the whole thing and start over with better writers.

 

[Apexpredator47]

i want more lesbian Content in 2023. the only event is maybe the Sophie/Dylan/Claire/Marie or Dylan/Emma.

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Sophia comes home still horny from what happened with sam, finds the maid masturbating and joins her in bed ‍

 

[bigdickwaterland]

Sophia comes home still horny from what happened with sam, finds the maid masturbating and joins her in bed ‍

And there's Conor from Jessica, and we get a long-term

 

[Alley_Cat]

i want more lesbian Content in 2023. the only event is maybe the Sophie/Dylan/Claire/Marie or Dylan/Emma.

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If we're lucky we'll be up to PD14 by this time next year, so at the next Ellie event. Finding it hard to comprehend that it might be up to three years between events for the second-most popular character.

And no, the bonus storyline doesn't count. As I've realised recently, you don't even need to be playing the Ellie route to be playing it.