DrDougDoesDOS

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The problem is the Slow Build is making the Slow Burn look like a Chef trying to Cook a Turkey with a few twigs. I'm sure people wouldn't be noticing the lack of Sex so much if he bought a proper BBQ and some Briquettes. Until the last few updates I was starting to think Sophia might need Botox if she kept frowning like that. It's an improvement that she now opens her Dressing Gown, but she was waltzing around with a Dressing Gown open (and Topless underneath) in the 1st Release so we're really just back on Day 1, so really the improvement is only a return to form because its actually gone backwards in the 18 months since, that's what we're looking at when we keep saying "It's a Slow Burn game" here. The Slow Build is far more incredible when you consider the Dev has targets on his Patty Page saying "I'll buy a bigger PC if I get this" or whatever. He bought a new PC after Hiking to Azerbaijan and buying the wrong GPU etc. yet releases less and less by the month since. I applaud his Sale Skills I really do, 'cus despite all this his numbers keep growing and growing so he's doing something most Dev's can only dream of, so well done. Roll on Ver 0.07555.555 ;););)
 

yihman1

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The problem is the Slow Build is making the Slow Burn look like a Chef trying to Cook a Turkey with a few twigs. I'm sure people wouldn't be noticing the lack of Sex so much if he bought a proper BBQ and some Briquettes. Until the last few updates I was starting to think Sophia might need Botox if she kept frowning like that. It's an improvement that she now opens her Dressing Gown, but she was waltzing around with a Dressing Gown open (and Topless underneath) in the 1st Release so we're really just back on Day 1, so really the improvement is only a return to form because its actually gone backwards in the 18 months since, that's what we're looking at when we keep saying "It's a Slow Burn game" here. The Slow Build is far more incredible when you consider the Dev has targets on his Patty Page saying "I'll buy a bigger PC if I get this" or whatever. He bought a new PC after Hiking to Azerbaijan and buying the wrong GPU etc. yet releases less and less by the month since. I applaud his Sale Skills I really do, 'cus despite all this his numbers keep growing and growing so he's doing something most Dev's can only dream of, so well done. Roll on Ver 0.07555.555 ;););)
Here is the thing... L&P has placed himself into multiple traps.

Trap 1: The constant blue balling... He has blue balled and blue balled and blue balled so much up to now he may actually LOSE some subs when sex is inevitably added. Some subs will probably stop when Sophia becomes more slutty. This will be negated by new subs when this happens though so it's a give and take. Some folks will whine when Sophia finally gets some strange dick.

Trap 2: They hover over $5000 a month for a while, and have a target of $6500 per month to quit their side job... If they actually quit that side job, and released faster they would gain the subs needed to quit the side job. So it's like a situation where a guy can't get a car because he don't have a job, and can't get a job because he don't have a car.
 

cyanryu

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To make the game more interesting, you need to add a few renders to already past events. Where nothing happened to happen a little more. It will not take a lot of time, but it will give people a lot of new playing time and the sexual fun they need.
 
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is there a possibility that the latest version will be released this month?
*sorry for the umpteenth question, because I'm not used to reading previous posts with forum appearances like this
 

yihman1

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is there a possibility that the latest version will be released this month?
*sorry for the umpteenth question, because I'm not used to reading previous posts with forum appearances like this
Not likely due to the way the Patreon is setup. It's more profitable to release it on June 1st or shortly after that time even if it's completed a week before that. Subs whose time is up in May will need to pay June too. It's the business side of this art.

Now this is gonna get into "conspiracy theory" territory, but the game could ALREADY BE COMPLETED, along with several other games already completed that are not available in completed form. If not completed could be MANY versions ahead of current state.

Well over a year ago L&P said something along the lines of: "The story is already complete. I already have a full script for the entire story." At least in rough draft form.

Dude is making $5,000+ a month off this project. Cost of living is only like $1,000 where he lives. Lets say he live it up and is living on double cost of living. That still leaves $3,000 a month to blow on hardware and other shit... The guy could have SEVERAL powerhouse machines by now all setup in a nice little network going from machine to machine working on renders. It's not like he is posting pictures of his home work station. He is acting like he is maybe sitting on a laptop, and a desktop... Why would that be the case though?

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Suppose he has some home setup something like this. Beast after beast machine working together in harmony. These don't need to be all top of the line computers in a network like this. Just like a 4-500 dollar one from best buy times 10 would do the trick! (Like 2-3 months of his patreon money could easily setup a solid home network like this one.)

With this much faster processing power from a powerhouse home network like this it would leave way more free time for him. Get those renders done ALMOST TEN TIMES FASTER.

When this project started we were getting full days in roughly the same time frame. Then it went to half days. Then it went to quarter days. So renders could be flying out of this mammoth private network of his like greased lightning and the project is WAY ahead of schedule... Why release faster though? Not gonna get that many more patreon supporters that way...

So dude could be DONE with the project by now. I really don't think he wants to sit around with his thumb up his ass waiting on renders. I wouldn't it would drive me nuts...

So just keep releasing at normal or a little slower rate milking that patreon money for all it's worth. Now got all that free time in the world because everyone things you are limited by your hardware slowing the updates. So dude really bust his balls a few months setting this network up, and doing all the renders on all the machines then several years of work done in a fraction the time.

Again, this is all theory, and I got no evidence to prove it one way or another. Such a setup would still not save any time on the modeling, lighting, pose adjusting ect, nor with the scripting. Story is already done though according to creator. If he is good at making scenes pretty quickly with such a network things would get done way faster. Working on such a network for an hour or two a day would be like working 8 hours without one.

*puts on tin foil hat* and watch out for those damn chem trails!
 

armion82

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Not likely due to the way the Patreon is setup. It's more profitable to release it on June 1st or shortly after that time even if it's completed a week before that. Subs whose time is up in May will need to pay June too. It's the business side of this art.

Now this is gonna get into "conspiracy theory" territory, but the game could ALREADY BE COMPLETED, along with several other games already completed that are not available in completed form. If not completed could be MANY versions ahead of current state.

Well over a year ago L&P said something along the lines of: "The story is already complete. I already have a full script for the entire story." At least in rough draft form.

Dude is making $5,000+ a month off this project. Cost of living is only like $1,000 where he lives. Lets say he live it up and is living on double cost of living. That still leaves $3,000 a month to blow on hardware and other shit... The guy could have SEVERAL powerhouse machines by now all setup in a nice little network going from machine to machine working on renders. It's not like he is posting pictures of his home work station. He is acting like he is maybe sitting on a laptop, and a desktop... Why would that be the case though?

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Suppose he has some home setup something like this. Beast after beast machine working together in harmony. These don't need to be all top of the line computers in a network like this. Just like a 4-500 dollar one from best buy times 10 would do the trick! (Like 2-3 months of his patreon money could easily setup a solid home network like this one.)

With this much faster processing power from a powerhouse home network like this it would leave way more free time for him. Get those renders done ALMOST TEN TIMES FASTER.

When this project started we were getting full days in roughly the same time frame. Then it went to half days. Then it went to quarter days. So renders could be flying out of this mammoth private network of his like greased lightning and the project is WAY ahead of schedule... Why release faster though? Not gonna get that many more patreon supporters that way...

So dude could be DONE with the project by now. I really don't think he wants to sit around with his thumb up his ass waiting on renders. I wouldn't it would drive me nuts...

So just keep releasing at normal or a little slower rate milking that patreon money for all it's worth. Now got all that free time in the world because everyone things you are limited by your hardware slowing the updates. So dude really bust his balls a few months setting this network up, and doing all the renders on all the machines then several years of work done in a fraction the time.

Again, this is all theory, and I got no evidence to prove it one way or another. Such a setup would still not save any time on the modeling, lighting, pose adjusting ect, nor with the scripting. Story is already done though according to creator. If he is good at making scenes pretty quickly with such a network things would get done way faster. Working on such a network for an hour or two a day would be like working 8 hours without one.

*puts on tin foil hat* and watch out for those damn chem trails!
I am actualy not sure he can even finish the update this month.So I doubt he will intentionally hold the release.After all after renders are done he need at least 10 more days for other things-script,dialogues,bugs etc.
 
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yihman1

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I am actualy not sure he can even finish the update this month.So I doubt he will intentionally hold the release.After all after renders are done he need at least 10 more days for other things-script,dialogues,bugs etc.
The story is already completed. So 0 time for dialogue. As for scripting / bug fixing ect. 10 days is way to long for 1/4 of a game day. That can be done in less than a day. I know my theory is crazy, and it's probably not true, but it's what I would do from that position. You can even outsource such things virtually. No creative work goes into scripting / bug fixing ect. I'm sure there is some dude in India who will do it for $2 an hour and be happy.
 

armion82

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The story is already completed. So 0 time for dialogue. As for scripting / bug fixing ect. 10 days is way to long for 1/4 of a game day. That can be done in less than a day. I know my theory is crazy, and it's probably not true, but it's what I would do from that position. You can even outsource such things virtually. No creative work goes into scripting / bug fixing ect. I'm sure there is some dude in India who will do it for $2 an hour and be happy.
You obviously have no idea how this guy is working.So far the updates follow this pattern,he finish first all renders then do everything else.And trust me 1 day for bugs is bullshit.Everyone who made a game will tell you that.Story written does not mean the dialogue is done.Another assumption you just make out of nowhere.
 

armion82

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i think when L&P said he has the story:he has written the event of the 30 playable days and how to turn sophia form a boring housewife into a ninfo/bisexual/incestuos mother.
and remember he is german he need to transladete all the dialogue to english
Yes that exactly.He still have to write what Sophia will tell Ellie if she have 30 lesbian temptation points par example.
Or any dialogue between characters.
 

Jude6

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Not likely due to the way the Patreon is setup. It's more profitable to release it on June 1st or shortly after that time even if it's completed a week before that. Subs whose time is up in May will need to pay June too. It's the business side of this art...
My dude, don't do this to yourself.
Every few weeks on this site (every twenty-ish pages for this thread) someone starts doing this theoretical math and sparks off a fresh argument that drags on for page after page...

"Dev is making X money a month, I heard from a guy who knows a guy who says that Patreon only take out Y percentage, Dev's cost of living is only Z so they should be making enough to afford this theoretical rendering machine I've devised based on reading half of a Buzzfeed article about the computers at NASA - with an output rate of 120 renders per day. Writing only takes about 2 minutes per update, I reckon. Plus I've never done coding/bugfixing of this kind before, but I'm pretty sure all of that can be done in about half an hour. Meaning that If My Math Checks Out... the Dev is a greedy asshole."

All you end up doing is tearing your own hair out in self-inflicted frustration, and driving the rest of us up the wall.

We all want this Dev to release updates faster, but we don't gripe about it because we've accepted the reality of his release speed, whether he's milking or just slow - doesn't matter.

We'd all be on board for the guy just turning around tomorrow and releasing a whole finished game because someone called him on his grand deception. But it seems pretty unlikely.

If you want to really accuse him then more power to you, but the only way you're guaranteed to get his attention and a response is by signing up to the $1 tier on LustandPassion's Patreon and contacting him directly.

Let us know how it goes.
 

lockerxx

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next upgrade is:
casino night event
sex with liam only for good wife (finally!!!)
night in the club with ellie and patricia filty wife
 
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