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Andre13

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That is why, you really have to watch out, how you Play it. Because one little mistake and your route will not work. But that is also the fun about it.You really have to read everything. And, if you do not do that, then you are f***ed.
Luckily renpy has a back option, so you can re read it...
 

Andre13

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I really read it, sometimes, like three or four times. But my guess is, that some are not really reading it. And then, they are complaining. Well, I can be wrong with it.
its just easier sometimes to make a save at the choice and if you choose something at it goes the way you dont like , reload it..
 

Taker Fan

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its just easier sometimes to make a save at the choice and if you choose something at it goes the way you dont like , reload it..
Yeah, I know. And I have done that also.
But I make it also, that way, because I think, that there can be some hints for future Uploades/Updates.
 

lesbiaN7ncest

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That's the whole problem, for you it is unwanted content. But the author was honest from the very beginning and said that it was necessary for their storylines. Therefore, all criticism is based only on personal desires and tastes.
But it isn't necessary for their storylines. Not really. 90% of the events that you need to do in order to get the content actually have absolutely nothing to do with either Patricia or Ellie. The only reason you "need" to do them is because that's where the points are you need in order to trigger the scene(s). So, again, that's just arbitrary bullshit from L&P because its demonstatably not true. There's no choices and consequences related to the narrative involving the women most of the time, it's all just points.

You can't just be the creator of the series and make a grandiose claim that the events are "necessary for their storylines" just because it's "your story" and "your vision" when you just illustrate within the narrative that that's not even remotely the case. The fact that you can cheat the Filthy points to get most of these scenes proves this, because it shows that playing out the events in the "Good Wife" manner and merely futzing with the points to get the scenes anyway still results in success. The only real exception to this that I can think of is the sauna scene where Sophia has to be responsive to the men in order to get the nightclub scene the following night. That's seriously the only time the actual narrative and actual choice you make tags the outcome instead of it merely being point-based when it comes to Patricia and Ellie content.

So... no. It's not necessary for their storylines at all. This is straight up false, provably so.

And my criticism is based not just on my personal desires and tastes, but due to these provable examples of poor game design. It's arbitrary and unbalanced. It doesn't make sense except to L&P and things just happen the way he wants them to not out of cohesive narrative or realistic character interactions, but because his programming says that it does. The thing is I also have other alternative playthroughs with this game I don't mind doing. The pure lesbian one just happens to be my favourite, but its the one that is also the most broken by the way L&P has gone about this.

Here's another fault I can point out too: the points make no sense and things just escalate because L&P wants them to to restrict you, not because they make sense. For example, Sophia can choose to accept a complement on her sexiness from Ellie, physically remove her daughter's bikini top and then rub lotion into her bare back and butt at the cost of NO Filthy points whatsoever. A few days later, it costs you 19(!!!) Filthy points just to compliment Ellie on her appearance. No touching, no perving. Just complimenting. Yet stripping her clothing and physical contact with her when she's almost naked is free.
 
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armion82

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Maybe bigger problem is not that you need more filthy/lesbian or whatever points/ than what you can get following only the characters you like.More troublesome is how in order to get to the kiss with Patricia and more points for her and Ellie,you need to go along with the guys at the spa.Ruling them out you just lock Sophia/Patricia and maybe Sophia/Ellie story.
Let's not forget that if you didn't let the door open 1 week before you are losing the beach event and almost 100% you won't have enough points with Dylan.

Good for me that I have no problems,but I see how some people are annoyed that the game don't realy give them the choice to pursuit only the character or characters they want.
 
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Hlextor

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But it isn't necessary for their storylines. Not really. 90% of the events that you need to do in order to get the content actually have absolutely nothing to do with either Patricia or Ellie. The only reason you "need" to do them is because that's where the points are you need in order to trigger the scene(s). So, again, that's just arbitrary bullshit from L&P because its demonstatably not true. There's no choices and consequences related to the narrative involving the women most of the time, it's all just points.

You can't just be the creator of the series and make a grandiose claim that the events are "necessary for their storylines" just because it's "your story" and "your vision" when you just illustrate within the narrative that that's not even remotely the case. The fact that you can cheat the Filthy points to get most of these scenes proves this, because it shows that playing out the events in the "Good Wife" manner and merely futzing with the points to get the scenes anyway still results in success. The only real exception to this that I can think of is the sauna scene where Sophia has to be responsive to the men in order to get the nightclub scene the following night. That's seriously the only time the actual narrative and actual choice you make tags the outcome instead of it merely being point-based when it comes to Patricia and Ellie content.

So... no. It's not necessary for their storylines at all. This is straight up false, provably so.

And my criticism is based not just on my personal desires and tastes, but due to these provable examples of poor game design. It's arbitrary and unbalanced. It doesn't make sense except to L&P and things just happen the way he wants them to not out of cohesive narrative or realistic character interactions, but because his programming says that it does. The thing is I also have other alternative playthroughs with this game I don't mind doing. The pure lesbian one just happens to be my favourite, but its the one that is also the most broken by the way L&P has gone about this.

Here's another fault I can point out too: the points make no sense and things just escalate because L&P wants them to to restrict you, not because they make sense. For example, Sophia can choose to accept a complement on her sexiness from Ellie, physically remove her daughter's bikini top and then rub lotion into her bare back and butt at the cost of NO Filthy points whatsoever. A few days later, it costs you 19(!!!) Filthy points just to compliment Ellie on her appearance. No touching, no perving. Just complimenting. Yet stripping her clothing and physical contact with her when she's almost naked is free.
Sorry, i can’t understand your criticism. How should L&P in your sight proceed? Sophia should slowly but surely turning into an indecent woman. How should it work? L&P has decided on filthy points. L&P AWAM is a realistic game. As far as practicable, of course. Thats the reason for we haven’t seen any sexscene with her besides Liam. Sophia needs time to change. And of course she has no sex she is more open for others, be it lesbian or incest or sex with strangers. What would you do? How would you change a wife into an indecent woman?
 
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armion82

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Sorry, i can’t understand your criticism. How should L&P in your sight proceed? Patricia should slowly but surely turning into an indecent woman. How should it work? L&P has decided on filthy points. L&P AWAM is a realistic game. As far as practicable, of course. Thats the reason for we haven’t seen any sexscene with her besides Liam. Patricia needs time to change. And of course she has no sex she is more open for others, be it lesbian or incest or sex with strangers. What would you do? How would you change a wife into an indecent woman?
You better change Patricia with Sophia:)
Again I am so much lucky to can go with everyhing the dev is giving us.Unless he go to the dark zone.
 

Andre13

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Sorry, i can’t understand your criticism. How should L&P in your sight proceed? Patricia should slowly but surely turning into an indecent woman. How should it work? L&P has decided on filthy points. L&P AWAM is a realistic game. As far as practicable, of course. Thats the reason for we haven’t seen any sexscene with her besides Liam. Patricia needs time to change. And of course she has no sex she is more open for others, be it lesbian or incest or sex with strangers. What would you do? How would you change a wife into an indecent woman?
And there's the problem with the filthy points, you wont get enough points to go on with the stories you want to go, without going with stories the player maybe doesnt want to go.
 
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Hlextor

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And there's the problem with the filthy points, you wont get enough points to go on with the stories you want to go, without going with stories the player maybe doesnt want to go.
I don’t know. For example you can avoid lesbian events and Dylan becomes a cuckold without loosing filthy points for some other important scenes. You find in every porngame any system to trigger new events. The question is, what is your desire? Sex with Liam? Yes, it works. And if you don’t like lesbian, it should also work without loosing content.
 

Andre13

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I don’t know. For example you can avoid lesbian events and Dylan becomes a cuckold without loosing filthy points for some other important scenes. You find in every porngame any system to trigger new events. The question is, what is your desire? Sex with Liam? Yes, it works. And if you don’t like lesbian, it should also work without loosing content.
Well, that depends on the content the player want to see. Me for example dont want to see any of the extortion/blackmail content, wich i imagine will get Sophia a lot of filthy points, that could be needed in content i like to see, but if i dont do the extortion/blackmail thing, will L&P create other ways for players like me to get those points or triggers?
 

armion82

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I don’t know. For example you can avoid lesbian events and Dylan becomes a cuckold without loosing filthy points for some other important scenes. You find in every porngame any system to trigger new events. The question is, what is your desire? Sex with Liam? Yes, it works. And if you don’t like lesbian, it should also work without loosing content.
I doubt that many will play the game only for Liam.
After all he is not D from DMD to pursuit him like many do with D.
 

jonnybravo11

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PEOPLE THERE IS A SOLUTION TO ALL THIS CONTENT LOSING PARANOIA
- REPLAY THE GAME MANY TIMES TO GET EVERY CONTENT

PROBLEM 2 DELIBERATELY CHOOSING SOMETHING FOR THE SAKE OF CONTENT LINKAGE WITH OTHER CHARACTERS
- FIRST 10 DAYS CHOOSE EVERYTHING AFTER THAT YOU STILL HAVE OPTION TO DECLINE IN FUTURE (just let the paths be opened for sometime)
 

Andre13

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PEOPLE THERE IS A SOLUTION TO ALL THIS CONTENT LOSING PARANOIA
- REPLAY THE GAME MANY TIMES TO GET EVERY CONTENT

PROBLEM 2 DELIBERATELY CHOOSING SOMETHING FOR THE SAKE OF CONTENT LINKAGE WITH OTHER CHARACTERS
- FIRST 10 DAYS CHOOSE EVERYTHING AFTER THAT YOU STILL HAVE OPTION TO DECLINE IN FUTURE (just let the paths be opened for sometime)
you dont know that, if you will be able to decline in the future, wouldnt be the first game to do that...
 

Hlextor

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Well, that depends on the content the player want to see. Me for example dont want to see any of the extortion/blackmail content, wich i imagine will get Sophia a lot of filthy points, that could be needed in content i like to see, but if i dont do the extortion/blackmail thing, will L&P create other ways for players like me to get those points or triggers?
I get it. I‘m also not into extortion/blackmailing. But i‘m sure L&P finds a solution to get rid of Aiden ... sooner or later without loosing important filthy points. And maybe Sophia finds something positives in her situation :)
 
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