VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Jozef Minge]

If I remember correctly L&P said that she won't go this revealing, but what she will change?!

 

[armion82]

From what I remember, the info on this thread was that day 15 will be 75% about the ranch. So we don't know about the remaining 25% .
My guess is somewhere around 800 renders just for the ranch events.

Also According to his post he had said the first lesbian sex scene with an important character is within 3 days. And no other important female character is having a big scene anytime in between.

So it will most likely be Sophia and Patricia lesbian sex scene at the ranch.

Sadly PD 15 is at least 2 years away.

 

[Jozef Minge]

She will remove the bra, before entering the class most probably. At some point the jacket will also be removed.
In my opinion it will just be Sophia in a blouse and skirt during the actual task.

Probably yes, but I think that she will try one or two different outfits, before make a final decision.

 

[Old Dog]

She will remove the bra, before entering the class most probably. At some point the jacket will also be removed.
In my opinion it will just be Sophia in a blouse and skirt during the actual task.

I would take that as a step back in the tasks.
Also is nobody interested in what the bonus scene maybe about?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Leaving Dylan at boarding school is surrendering to the petty criminal Aiden. Especially since Sophia Aiden has to teach every day. It's like an itchy spot that you can't scratch. Possibly this decision for Dylan turns out to be the right one for his later life (which doesn't interest us at all). But it remains a surrender and not a victory. Sending Dylan back to school will inevitably target him again. Aiden is not the type to forget. A mafioso (a little one) doesn't forget!
The whole discussion is interesting but does not play a role in the story.

How is doing the complete opposite to what Aiden wants surrendering to him? Not sending Dylan to boarding school and accepting the blackmail is surrendering to Aiden.

It's far more likely that sending Dylan to a better school, that also happens to be coed, is the right one for his future. Especially since it turns out his History teacher has no interest in his students actually learning, and even the Headmaster is so impotent that a mere kid scares him

 

[bayrischman]

Sadly PD 15 is at least 2 years away.

before day 15 is done 4-5 years. so aroud end 2026.

 

[hzjujk]

She will remove the bra, before entering the class most probably. At some point the jacket will also be removed.
In my opinion it will just be Sophia in a blouse and skirt during the actual task.

Aiden is a narcissist and a person who is intoxicated with power and wants to show this power. The last time he was hiding behind a mask, he really doesn't want that. It will be something sexual, the show of power will be a little more public, he will step into the light a little more as the initiator and it will be humiliating for Sophia. At some point later in the game he could go so far as to show Dylan how much power he has over his mother. That would only be a logical consequence of this increase. The ultimate triumph over its little adversary (or former instigator).
On the other hand, there is a possibility that Aiden can never get out of cover. This is only a conclusion from the fact that Aiden and the educator from the art school knew each other, that Aiden may only go to a normal school on "probation" because he was considered to be behavioral and criminal at an early age.

 

[Old Dog]

How is doing the complete opposite to what Aiden wants surrendering to him? Not sending Dylan to boarding school and accepting the blackmail is surrendering to Aiden.

It's far more likely that sending Dylan to a better school, that also happens to be coed, is the right one for his future. Especially since it turns out his History teacher has no interest in his students actually learning, and even the Headmaster is so impotent that a mere kid scares him

Sending Dylan away makes no difference to his grade as only Bennett or the School Board can change his grade.
As for Bennett not caring for his students we don't know that and all we really do know is that he wants to sleep with Sophia and he is using Dylan to get what he wants.

 

[Old Dog]

Aiden is a narcissist and a person who is intoxicated with power and wants to show this power. The last time he was hiding behind a mask, he really doesn't want that. It will be something sexual, the show of power will be a little more public, he will step into the light a little more as the initiator and it will be humiliating for Sophia. At some point later in the game he could go so far as to show Dylan how much power he has over his mother. That would only be a logical consequence of this increase. The ultimate triumph over its little adversary (or former instigator).
On the other hand, there is a possibility that Aiden can never get out of cover. This is only a conclusion from the fact that Aiden and the educator from the art school knew each other, that Aiden may only go to a normal school on "probation" because he was considered to be behavioral and criminal at an early age.

Since Sophia is pissed at Aiden for his last stunt maybe she will try and gain some respect/power back from Aiden,come to a sort of agreement no matter how distasteful it maybe to Sophia

 

[hzjujk]

How is doing the complete opposite to what Aiden wants surrendering to him? Not sending Dylan to boarding school and accepting the blackmail is surrendering to Aiden.

It's far more likely that sending Dylan to a better school, that also happens to be coed, is the right one for his future. Especially since it turns out his History teacher has no interest in his students actually learning, and even the Headmaster is so impotent that a mere kid scares him

I'm confused?! Isn't that exactly what I said. That in real life it would be Dylan's best bet. That there was no other option, but it is a surrender / defeat for the Parker family.

 

[hzjujk]

Since Sophia is pissed at Aiden for his last stunt maybe she will try and gain some respect/power back from Aiden,come to a sort of agreement no matter how distasteful it maybe to Sophia

Yes, I've already thought of that. But it would also take the pressure off Sophia to consider the help of a mafia boss.
Yes, I try to convey that with respect / dominance all the time here in the forum and am always mercilessly shouted down for it. If 99% don't believe in it, then 1% can show another possible way.
The only trade I could make to Sophia with Aiden would be not to let the tasks take place in the school / classroom. But why should Aiden get involved? She would have to offer him something for that, something that binds her more closely to blackmail.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I would take that as a step back in the tasks.
Also is nobody interested in what the bonus scene maybe about?

I mean, we can't assume her to be standing without her blouse too in the class. Ofcourse we as players will get to see more, Aiden will make her do things. But atleast for the class she will be in her blouse and skirt. That's what I meant.

Also a step back has to he expected, the environment is pretty limiting. Things have to be done with an element of secrecy. And another fact is that the tasks are not going to be extreme until the first solution has been offered and people who want to leave the route have left.

Aiden is a narcissist and a person who is intoxicated with power and wants to show this power. The last time he was hiding behind a mask, he really doesn't want that. It will be something sexual, the show of power will be a little more public, he will step into the light a little more as the initiator and it will be humiliating for Sophia. At some point later in the game he could go so far as to show Dylan how much power he has over his mother. That would only be a logical consequence of this increase. The ultimate triumph over its little adversary (or former instigator).
On the other hand, there is a possibility that Aiden can never get out of cover. This is only a conclusion from the fact that Aiden and the educator from the art school knew each other, that Aiden may only go to a normal school on "probation" because he was considered to be behavioral and criminal at an early age.

Same as I have written above . About your idea of Showing off to Dylan how much control he has directly is something unrealistic in my opinion. Once that happens, what is Sophia really protecting, it's not like they are trapped, Liam is still there, Carl is there, Patricia, Zac, Alyssa. There will be no reason to continue the arrangement. Also Dylan will attack Aiden at the first instance he gets. So all the efforts until now would be for nothing.

Aiden could however do something along the lines of what you suggest. Supposedly by disguising Sophia, trying to be friends with Dylan, acting like he wants to make up. And then he could call out Sophia to entertain them both. But since Sophia is Disguised Dylan won't realize. For Sophia, Dylan's apperance will be a surprise. Now she wouldn't be able to lash out since if she does that, she risks the possibility of being found out in such a position by her son. She will have to go along with it quietly. Just a scenario that came to by mind.

 

[Hlextor]

Aiden is a narcissist and a person who is intoxicated with power and wants to show this power. The last time he was hiding behind a mask, he really doesn't want that. It will be something sexual, the show of power will be a little more public, he will step into the light a little more as the initiator and it will be humiliating for Sophia. At some point later in the game he could go so far as to show Dylan how much power he has over his mother. That would only be a logical consequence of this increase. The ultimate triumph over its little adversary (or former instigator).
On the other hand, there is a possibility that Aiden can never get out of cover. This is only a conclusion from the fact that Aiden and the educator from the art school knew each other, that Aiden may only go to a normal school on "probation" because he was considered to be behavioral and criminal at an early age.

I mean, we can't assume her to be standing without her blouse too in the class. Ofcourse we as players will get to see more, Aiden will make her do things. But atleast for the class she will be in her blouse and skirt. That's what I meant.

Also a step back has to he expected, the environment is pretty limiting. Things have to be done with an element of secrecy. And another fact is that the tasks are not going to be extreme until the first solution has been offered and people who want to leave the route have left.


Same as I have written above . About your idea of Showing off to Dylan how much control he has directly is something unrealistic in my opinion. Once that happens, what is Sophia really protecting, it's not like they are trapped, Liam is still there, Carl is there, Patricia, Zac, Alyssa. There will be no reason to continue the arrangement. Also Dylan will attack Aiden at the first instance he gets. So all the efforts until now would be for nothing.

Aiden could however do something along the lines of what you suggest. Supposedly by disguising Sophia, trying to be friends with Dylan, acting like he wants to make up. And then he could call out Sophia to entertain them both. But since Sophia is Disguised Dylan won't realize. For Sophia, Dylan's apperance will be a surprise. Now she wouldn't be able to lash out since if she does that, she risks the possibility of being found out in such a position by her son. She will have to go along with it quietly. Just a scenario that came to by mind.

Dylan will not play/get a role in the tasks. That is exclusively Sophia's dark path.

 

[Old Dog]

Dylan will not play/get a role in the tasks. That is exclusively Sophia's dark path.

Yes.This is a path that Sophia must travel alone

 

[Alley_Cat]

I would take that as a step back in the tasks.
Also is nobody interested in what the bonus scene maybe about?

Like the entire day really, this update appears to be for those playing the Dylan route. So for me, not interested in the bonus scene. So far none of them are for my playthrough

Sending Dylan away makes no difference to his grade as only Bennett or the School Board can change his grade.
As for Bennett not caring for his students we don't know that and all we really do know is that he wants to sleep with Sophia and he is using Dylan to get what he wants.

You're forgetting the conversation where Bennett talks about why he is a teacher.

I'm confused?! Isn't that exactly what I said. That in real life it would be Dylan's best bet. That there was no other option, but it is a surrender / defeat for the Parker family.

But it isn't a defeat for the Parker family. Not in the slightest. Dylan can even return to the city like he does for the Yoga event with no concerns at all that Aiden will follow through with his threat of violence. Pretty much whenever Dylan wants. And Ellie finally gets to enjoy some piece and quiet, and possibly some nude sunbathing.

Sophia doesn’t even need to pay the boarding school fees. These are all wins.

Whereas there's the possibility that by accepting the blackmail, Sophia will eventually become a weak, decrepit, shell of her former self. She might lose her job by messing around with students, her marriage if she gets caught by Liam, everything. That is a defeat. Which is fine if you're playing the blackmail route and that’s the result you're after. But is is the path of ruining Sophia

 

[SubtleHustle]

In my mind's eye, I think this game will look radically different by PD 25 than it does today.

Yep, a lot can change in a decade!

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yep, a lot can change in a decade!

By my estimates, it's more like two decades to reach PD25

 

[derek1957]

My apologies in advance because I haven’t followed the game anywhere near as close as many of you, but I had a few meandering thoughts on Aiden’s Task 4.

First off, yes, if Sophia just walks into the classroom and jiggles in a braless blouse it would be a step backward. There has to be more to it. At the least, exposing more flesh, or some touching. It doesn’t need to be as wild as Task 3, but more than Task 2. Or, at least quite different.

Also, Sophia may still be pissed at Aiden for Task 3, and ready to say no to him if he pushes things in her own classroom. One possible solution I can think of is that Aiden will be ready to push back if she disagrees with Task 4, and throws her off balance again. Just for one quick example, if Sophia balks at the task, Aiden could be ready with a further threat. He could have some of his gang ready to detain either Dylan or Zac somewhere remotely (they wouldn’t even have to know why), and put them on a video call, so Sophia can see that they are in imminent danger. (And no, Dylan isn’t going beat up a whole gang of thugs.) Something along these lines. Is this too extreme? Well maybe, and may be why Sophia goes to Morello or Carl, but that is AFTER Task 4 in one Route, so we’ll worry about that later.

There have been posts here of concerns of the other students talking too much of Sophia shows or does too much in the classroom. This is possible, and I would worry more about the girls in class. But I have a couple of anecdotes from personal experience. When I was a teen, I would talk about hot teachers and teacher upskirts with friends only if they brought up the subject. There were many other times that I didn’t want my friends and classmates to think I was a creepy little guy trying to look up teachers’ skirts or down their blouse (which I was). There was one young English teacher that sat on her desk nearly every day, and many days I’d get a panty upskirt from her. And I never told a soul about it. That is, until years later, when I found out that a LOT of guys were catching upskirts from her. Some were even talking about it amongst themselves, but she was still teaching there decades later, so she got away with it. I also once spotted a nip slip from a teacher and never told anybody, again for fear of being thought of as too creepy. My point is that student discretion, along with maybe a little stretch of the imagination for the sake of the story, could make future Sophia in-class indiscretions believable.

Also, I’m glad to see that it APPEARS that Task 4 will take place in Sophia’s classroom again, or at least in her school. Task 3 was both one of the hottest events for me, but at the same time a major disappointment. It was hot largely because an insolent bully punk student got to expose and play with his hot MILF teacher’s breast in front of students. It was a major disappointment because Aiden IS an insolent bully punk, albeit a smart one, and shouldn’t have to sneak around in masks and costumes in another city in another school to get what he wants. Hopefully more future tasks are located in Sophia’s school and classroom, but I never would have predicted Task 3, so I can’t predict L&P’s future tasks.

 

[palmtrees89]

My apologies in advance because I haven’t followed the game anywhere near as close as many of you, but I had a few meandering thoughts on Aiden’s Task 4.

First off, yes, if Sophia just walks into the classroom and jiggles in a braless blouse it would be a step backward. There has to be more to it. At the least, exposing more flesh, or some touching. It doesn’t need to be as wild as Task 3, but more than Task 2. Or, at least quite different.

Also, Sophia may still be pissed at Aiden for Task 3, and ready to say no to him if he pushes things in her own classroom. One possible solution I can think of is that Aiden will be ready to push back if she disagrees with Task 4, and throws her off balance again. Just for one quick example, if Sophia balks at the task, Aiden could be ready with a further threat. He could have some of his gang ready to detain either Dylan or Zac somewhere remotely (they wouldn’t even have to know why), and put them on a video call, so Sophia can see that they are in imminent danger. (And no, Dylan isn’t going beat up a whole gang of thugs.) Something along these lines. Is this too extreme? Well maybe, and may be why Sophia goes to Morello or Carl, but that is AFTER Task 4 in one Route, so we’ll worry about that later.

There have been posts here of concerns of the other students talking too much of Sophia shows or does too much in the classroom. This is possible, and I would worry more about the girls in class. But I have a couple of anecdotes from personal experience. When I was a teen, I would talk about hot teachers and teacher upskirts with friends only if they brought up the subject. There were many other times that I didn’t want my friends and classmates to think I was a creepy little guy trying to look up teachers’ skirts or down their blouse (which I was). There was one young English teacher that sat on her desk nearly every day, and many days I’d get a panty upskirt from her. And I never told a soul about it. That is, until years later, when I found out that a LOT of guys were catching upskirts from her. Some were even talking about it amongst themselves, but she was still teaching there decades later, so she got away with it. I also once spotted a nip slip from a teacher and never told anybody, again for fear of being thought of as too creepy. My point is that student discretion, along with maybe a little stretch of the imagination for the sake of the story, could make future Sophia in-class indiscretions believable.

Also, I’m glad to see that it APPEARS that Task 4 will take place in Sophia’s classroom again, or at least in her school. Task 3 was both one of the hottest events for me, but at the same time a major disappointment. It was hot largely because an insolent bully punk student got to expose and play with his hot MILF teacher’s breast in front of students. It was a major disappointment because Aiden IS an insolent bully punk, albeit a smart one, and shouldn’t have to sneak around in masks and costumes in another city in another school to get what he wants. Hopefully more future tasks are located in Sophia’s school and classroom, but I never would have predicted Task 3, so I can’t predict L&P’s future tasks.

Xavier as your profile picture in combination with a lengthy post. You're killing it.

But yeah, regarding the tasks, I completely agree with you. Right now, it looks like Aiden's 4th task is going to be a combination of both the first&second task, and hopefully something more daring to top it all off. As much as I dislike Aiden as a character, I can't deny that I really enjoy the tasks, especially if they are taking place on school grounds. I wouldn't mind if Aiden ordered Sophia to hand him her panties, and from that point on making her go to classes without wearing any, leading to more naughty events in the future.

 

[dolfe67]

What was the first task again?

For the 4th, what can Aiden make her do that is more daring without being too humiliating (it's too soon for that) than second task and avoid a repeat? Removing her panties why not, good but she can do it in any dress. Why ask for that kind of outfit? Something must be related. Maybe she'll do something outside the class but still in the school