VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

at best Sophie will show her boobs.

I tend to agree with you after Sophia's/Aiden's last talk

 

[sept0342]

I tend to agree with you after Sophia's/Aiden's last talk

what makes you think so in the conversation?

 

[armion82]

Don't forget that was based on the assumption that we get TEN updates per Playable Day. For example this coming Sunday, when Sophia and Patricia take a trip to the ranch, I expect will be split into far less than 10 updates. In fact L&P previously told us that 3/4 of the coming Sunday would be taken up by Sophia and Patricia's trip.

You may be correct that future days have more than two large updates - in those cases I doubt we will have 10 updates per Playable Day. My point was that L&P needs to deliver the smaller updates fast - I just used an example of two longer and eight shorter updates in a Playable Day as it made my head maths easy!!

L&P's quote last November, thanks to Apollodore 's Information & Guide in OP, said in full:

"And last but not least,for all the impatient who only want to see one thing (Liam excluded). Here is a rough outlook:
1st lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 3 playable days
1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days
2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days
2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days
3rd big lesbian sex(ual) scene with an important character: Within the next 5 playable days
4th lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 7 playable days

Which of course means that any other sexual practices will happen in betweewn as well!"

Now L&P might not have been explicit that these six scenes involve Sophia, but he is certainly deliberately implying that with his first sentance. Now this might be yet another example of L&P being disengenious with his words, giving him space to afterwards claim that he never said such things. But I will be incredibly p*ssed off with him if he tries to pull that stunt off.....

And I read any other sexual practices as handjob,footjob,tiitjob,blowjob,cunnilingus,fingering etc.

 

[Sadowdark]

Or the whole gang was groping Sophia's tits, or she wouldn't have time to get to the entrance, and Don Morello's men would show up.

 

[MaliPizdek]

so you guys think he will make her strip in front of all the boys? boobs, pussy or maybe both?
will there be touching or is she just for him?
nah.. fuck that, the dude let his boy fuck his gf LOL

 

[Sadowdark]

This is my theory. Sophia chose this dress because she knows she's sure Don Morelo's men will show up, but she doesn't know when and is counting on help. On the way, anything can happen, Sophia will try to walk quite slowly, as she is in no rush. Unless she is noticed by Aiden. The people of Don Morello will be coming. Or Jenifer shows up and helps Sophia.

 

[uniformless]

That's my theory. Sophia wears this dress because she knows that she is sure that Don Morelo's people will show up, but she does not know when and is counting on help. Anything could happen on the way. The people of Don Morello will come. Or Jenifer will show up.

Sophia will dress like that for meeting Aiden even without asking Don Morello's help so this is not because she hope he or his men will show up. See the screenshot of Sophia changing for her meeting, it was take during a playthrough where she didn't ask any help to Morello.

 

[Sadowdark]

Sophia will dress like that for meeting Aiden even without asking Don Morello's help so this is not because she hope he or his men will show up. See the screenshot of Sophia changing for her meeting, it was take during a playthrough where she didn't ask any help to Morello.

I think she asked for him earlier

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

2 hetero against 4 lesbian. What a disappointment.

We are talking about what the dev has told us will happen in a four day period in game, from Playable Day 15-18. That still leaves TWELVE playable days afterwards......

The dev seems to be working on the premise that is a smaller step for a wife to cheat with another woman than it is for her to cheat with another man. You might have a differnt opnion to the dev and that is fine.

But I would expect that if this VN ever survives long enough to be finished, then there will be more hetero sex scenes after PD18, as I suspect once Sophia has taken that first step, the proverbial dam will burst.

 

[Sadowdark]

Sophia will dress like that for meeting Aiden even without asking Don Morello's help so this is not because she hope he or his men will show up. See the screenshot of Sophia changing for her meeting, it was take during a playthrough where she didn't ask any help to Morello.

It depends on what choices you have made.It was just my theory. After all, Sophia didn't tell us what she was wearing this for. I think she is stupid to dress like this and take a risk for her tormentor, unless it is somehow a game on her part to calm Aiden. Or at least the unlikely Stocholm Syndrome.

 

[uniformless]

I think she asked for him earlier

It depends on what choices you have made

Errr, no? The screenshot I've linked is my own screenshot, taken from my own playthrough. So I'm 100% positive Sophia didn't ask help from Morello and still decided to wear this dress for the meeting with Aiden.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I don't know if it is the lighting or not but is this wall floating on the roof?
View attachment 1772865

looool
high architecture

 

[passionatefanlust]

L&Ps answer to Randy

New teaser

Also fresh update, he got assfucked again.

 

[ancienregimele]

Here we go again with the definitions. Can you explain what a porn game is then? I though if the genre include: "Incest, Lesbian, Masturbation, MILF, Oral sex, Romance, Voyeurism, Shota" it might e porn game. I would add that the last scene was pretty rape'ey, hence it might be a porn game. Or are you saying that it is currently not a porn game since there is no sex (outside marriage)?

OK, a porn game is something people play in order to excite lust. Specifically their lust & perhaps give them something to masturbate to. It may have story to tell but the aim is to introduce sex & judging by the types of games available, the storyline(s) always take second place. That goes for films, novels etc. It doesn't mean the stories are all bad, (though many are) but sex & lots of it, is essential.

Erotic literature & in this case, an erotic VN, should contain a well-written plausible story, or several, during which sex & sexual situations will occur. They should happen when they appear to be believable events within the context of those stories.

Putting it simply: porn=sex with a story, erotic literature=a story with sex. [AND the 2 can & do overlap].

That's my definition, though I'm sure there are fans who could do better &/or those who'd take issue with it. All I'm going to say is, they're welcome to try along with the fact that I wanted something which would take less than 5 minutes to think up & set down.

 

[ancienregimele]

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Sophia comes to the hangout place again where of course Aiden's not alone like he promised. She still has the option to listen to her female intuition and get the hell out of there.

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So. it's official, Sophia has taken leave of her senses. It was clear in the update that this was the outfit for the meeting, whether she'd asked for Don Morello's help or not. It was why I questioned the choice & wondered if she'd received more information that was still to be revealed to the viewers. I suppose this could still be the case.

It seems that realism is about to vanish again. If anybody genuinely predicts that this bunch would settle for a talk, or a boob show, given that location, the numbers present & the garments that resemble underwear.... I'll be polite & just say, "unbelievable".

Will we be expected to believe, for instance, that Aiden has total control over his gang? Will we be required to think that this young wannabe is able to limit the action to exactly what he permits? If there's any more flesh to be revealed, that would only lower his ability to do so. I also note that he has more lawless types to keep in line, than when we last visited this venue.

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

What does bother me, a lot, is Sophia's decision to wear a provocative & easily accessible outfit, when she knows who she's going to meet. Realism? It's also the case that there is no way, unless they hear or see her coming & all stay quiet, that she would not know that there was a bunch of blokes around the bend. Gangs make noise. Why would she, having coated herself in honey, walk straight into the bear's den? Are we going to get a shocked MC, when she comes upon this crew?

If Sophia, after particular player choices, has been given the nod that Morello's soldiers will be there, she still can't be sure exactly when they'll arrive.

I had thought that before we reached any situation of this kind that the game would have been abandoned. It's too early for a gangbang, we all know that. I await with curiousity the arcane literary methodology by which L&P will avoid it.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

So. it's official, Sophia has taken leave of her senses. It was clear in the update that this was the outfit for the meeting, whether she'd asked for Don Morello's help or not. It was why I questioned the choice & wondered if she'd received more information that was still to be revealed to the viewers. I suppose this could still be the case.

It seems that realism is about to vanish again. If anybody genuinely predicts that this bunch would settle for a talk, or a boob show, given that location, the numbers present & the garments that resemble underwear.... I'll be polite & just say, "unbelievable".

Will we be expected to believe, for instance, that Aiden has total control over his gang? Will we be required to think that this young wannabe is able to limit the action to exactly what he permits? If there's any more flesh to be revealed, that would only lower his ability to do so. I also note that he has more lawless types to keep in line, than when we last visited this venue.

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

What does bother me, a lot, is Sophia's decision to wear a provocative & easily accessible outfit, when she knows who she's going to meet. Realism? It's also the case that there is no way, unless they hear or see her coming & all stay quiet, that she would not know that there was a bunch of blokes around the bend. Gangs make noise. Why would she, having coated herself in honey, walk straight into the bear's den? Are we going to get a shocked MC, when she comes upon this crew?

If Sophia, after particular player choices, has been given the nod that Morello's soldiers will be there, she still can't be sure exactly when they'll arrive.

I had thought that before we reached any situation of this kind that the game would have been abandoned. It's too early for a gangbang, we all know that. I await with curiousity the arcane literary methodology by which L&P will avoid it.

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

Would you not consider what happened to Jennifer being raped or close to it? She said no, but Aiden threaten her little bro if she didn't go through with it.

 

[Old Dog]

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

Would you not consider what happened to Jennifer being raped or close to it? She said no, but Aiden threaten her little bro if she didn't go through with it.

I do consider that rape and yes it bothers me in a VN game or any game and I tend to stay away from them,my choice.

 

[ancienregimele]

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

Would you not consider what happened to Jennifer being raped or close to it? She said no, but Aiden threaten her little bro if she didn't go through with it.

Some do, I'm aware, but in the end it was sex with a strong element of coercion, IMO, which I base on the lack of any physically strenuous fightback. It was treading a fine line.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I do consider that rape and yes it bothers me in a VN game or any game and I tend to stay away from them,my choice.

That does concern me after he did say that no rape would be in the game, but IMO that scene clearly played out like rape to me. It wasn't kicking, screaming, or kidnapping rape, but it still fits the definition.

 

[CSK92]

Its a novella of erotic, perhaps. After all the time, it is kind of clear that the game was never intended to be a sex game. Its a game about dialogs and innuendo and choices.
I think the dev was more ambitious than what can be delivered. To me the tags are all confusing because if you look at incest, you will not find much on it.
The black mail part is mostly a tease without any action. So you are waiting for over 6 years to get some action.
I think there are some games that want to tell a story, a real story but are lost in a direction. So you end up with lots of dialogs to support an outcome.
Not sure if there is a scene for the museum, but i said yes, lets meet up. Never happened.
To me, the game is a let down. If it ever will be finished, it will probably not have a lot of sex.
Even the story ark with the mafia boss could have been something, but it seems that mafia bosses are actually nice people. Very understanding people. So no luck there.
Again, some teasing but thats about it. But i realized early on that i am not the audience for that game. Especially if you are looking for some fapping action. So maybe its fine after all.

Welp, You answered all of my many other reasons LOL