Actions we can take in recent censorship actions.

Hieroglyphics

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Hello aside from complaining I encourage everyone to send protest e-mails to these payment processing companies and flood their inboxes, but most of all send a message to the DOJ (Department Of Justice) in anti-trust law section. type your thoughts and then put it into chatGPT and ask it to write a professional letter based on your thoughts and complaints and add the correct character limit, or no character limit by e-mail and then send. Hope this helps! If collective karens can flood inboxes to force these companies to bend the knee then so can we. Please share in discord servers, and with your friends.



department of justice and include this act for reference in your complaints:



DOJ: (might have to highlight and hit search google should be first link)


Visa Inc.

Phone: 1-800-847-2911 OR +1-303-967-1096 (international)
Mail: c/o the Chairman, CEO, General Counsel or Corporate Secretary, P.O. Box 8999, San Francisco, CA 94128
businessconduct@visa.com

globalmedia@visa.com
Mastercard Inc.

Corporate Office: 914-249-2000
Operations Center in Missouri: 636-722-6100
investor.relations@mastercard.com
PayPal Holdings, Inc.

Phone: 1-888-221-1161
Mail: PayPal Headquarters, 2211 North First Street, San Jose, California 95131
EEOMALegalSpecialist@paypal.com <---HERE!!

executiveescalations@paypal.com
(!!)Most importantly(!!), those in the USA should consider contacting their Congressmen (phone or email) and tell them you want to support these bills:



I would urge them to support it, and even urge them to strengthen the wording of it to put more restrictions on credit card companies, not just banks. ( How to find your congressman[ ] )
Then, I think those in the USA should contact the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and file a complaint. Doing this next is good, as its the most consumer focused:

Phone: 1-855-411-2372
Mail: Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 1700 G Street NW, Washington, DC 20552
Following that, submit a detailed complaint detailing the issues to the DOJ’s Antitrust Division or FTC:
Department of Justice – Antitrust Division

(space)
Phone: 1-855-411-2372
Mail: Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 1700 G Street NW, Washington, DC 20552
Federal Trade Commission

Phone: 1-877-382-4357
Mail: Federal Trade Commission, Consumer Response Center, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20580



You can use an AI to help you draft letters easily (Microsoft Copilot requires no sign-in). I've put physical addresses too because although it represents a big commitment of effort, few things get their message through better than a written letter.


This is not an end-all-be-all list, but I think its a pretty good starting point. I understand a lot of this represents an uncomfy amount of effort, but really, wouldn't it be an insane spectacle if Visa or MasterCard literally got broken up all because they messed with some erogames on Steam? Imagine that going down in history.
 
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Hieroglyphics

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some of the links wont work on click so highlight them and right click and hover over search and hit google or whatever you use and it should be the first link.
 

Hieroglyphics

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Please add this bill,
done, and I also wrote to my senator and house representative in my district a complaint about these actions I believe closest catagory was trade and commerce.

I wrote this do the DOJ this is a sample for everyone to get an idea of what to write and feel free to use transcripts from youtubers that are more articulate than you, and websites etc and then get chatgpt to prompt a letter based on all the data. I do encourage everyone to write in their own style and ask chatgpt to write a letter in their style.



To the U.S. Department of Justice, Antitrust Division:


I am writing to report alarming anticompetitive behavior by major payment processors—specifically Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal—who are using their market dominance to pressure platforms like Steam and itch.io into removing legal digital content. This is not based on violations of the law, but on ideological campaigns by activist groups such as Collective Shout.


These processors are effectively acting as unelected regulators. By threatening to withdraw payment services, they’re forcing platforms to adopt censorship policies that bypass the legislative process entirely. Steam and itch.io have already removed games and delisted creators—sometimes even from customers’ digital libraries—without refunds.


This is not just market overreach. It is a coordinated effort that risks creating a system where financial access depends on political or cultural compliance. Today it's adult games. Tomorrow it could be political speech, memes, satire, or disfavored beliefs. This paves the way for a social credit-like system enforced not by law, but by corporate fiat.


Visa and Mastercard dominate the payment processing market. Their ability to collectively enforce content restrictions—while continuing to support far more explicit platforms like OnlyFans—demonstrates selective enforcement and market manipulation. Consumers, creators, and small platforms are being silenced without recourse.


I urge the DOJ to investigate whether these companies are violating antitrust laws through collusion, monopolistic practices, and viewpoint discrimination. Financial access is essential infrastructure, and no private corporation should have unchecked authority over what legal content Americans are allowed to access.


Sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
Concerned Citizen
 
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anne O'nymous

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Please add this bill,
I don't know who pointed you to this bill, but it's totally unrelated with the topic.

To summarize it in common words, the goal of this bill is to prevent credit card issuers (so banks and lending institutions) to restrict the use of the card to networks owned or affiliated to the issuer, at national security risk, or that is the largest actor.

Not only it do not address the, "hey, either you comply or we stop our partnership" issue, but it don't even regard payment processors.


Seriously guys...

If you wonder why Collective Shout succeed, it's because they have a legal team and know what they talk about. When they start a campaign, they point the right bills and their right paragraph(s).

And if you wonder why you (generic) will not succeed, it's because you listen to the guy that shout the louder, throw all the bills he said as being related, but like he know nothing, they aren't and this make you pass for entitled brats that just throw a tantrum.
 
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Hieroglyphics

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I don't know who pointed you to this bill, but it's totally unrelated with the topic.

To summarize it in common words, the goal of this bill is to prevent credit card issuers (so banks and lending institutions) to restrict the use of the card to networks owned or affiliated to the issuer, at national security risk, or that is the largest actor.

Not only it do not address the, "hey, either you comply or we stop our partnership" issue, but it don't even regard payment processors.


Seriously guys...

If you wonder why Collective Shout succeed, it's because they have a legal team and know what they talk about. When they start a campaign, they point the right bills and their right paragraph(s).

And if you wonder why you (generic) will not succeed, it's because you listen to the guy that shout the louder, throw all the bills he said as being related, but like he know nothing, they aren't and this make you pass for entitled brats that just throw a tantrum.
because collective karens literally got all their members to spam the payment processing buisinesses inboxes daily. So we can do the same and remember there are more of us then them.
 
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because collective karens literally got all their members to spam the payment processing buisinesses inboxes daily. So we can do the same and remember there are more of us then them.
Reading isn't your main trait, right?

As I explicitly said, they spam with actual and related information, not with pure unrelated bullshit like you are encouraging people to do.


Do you really believe that anyone who would read your letter will do something else than laugh?

Just the first line is already enough for the reader to see that you know nothing and to throw your letter/mail to the trashcan:
"I am writing to report alarming anticompetitive behavior by major payment processors [...]"

As if, "please, do as we want, or else use the service of one of our competitor", can, in any possible way, be seen as an "anti-competitive behavior"... :FacePalm:


"who are using their market dominance to pressure platforms like Steam and itch.io into removing legal digital content"

They are pressuring Steam and itch.io into removing digital content that is precisely not legal. The US/Canadian/Australian obscenity laws also apply pure fictional content. And by definition, incest, and even more none consensual sex, fall under those said obscenity laws.


"Steam and itch.io have already removed games and delisted creators—sometimes even from customers’ digital libraries—without refunds. "

Read their Terms of Service, you'll have a surprise... The access is granted as long as the content is available, and it's not their responsibility to pursue the access once the content isn't available anymore, nor to refund you if it happen.


"Today it's adult games. Tomorrow it could be political speech, memes, satire, or disfavored beliefs."

Political speech is already targeted, with the help of the DOJ. And mentioning "memes" is so childish.


"This paves the way for a social credit-like system enforced not by law, but by corporate fiat."

What will please the current US administration since it's what they seek for.


"Their ability to collectively enforce content restrictions—while continuing to support far more explicit platforms like OnlyFans—"

Yeah, nothing say "I support freedom" than spiting on your neighbor.
This being said, OnlyFans content is legal, and OnlyFans strongly enforce this legality. A part of Steam and itch.io content wasn't legal, and the platforms didn't enforced strongly enough the legality of their content.


"I urge the DOJ to investigate whether these companies are violating antitrust laws through collusion, monopolistic practices, and viewpoint discrimination."

This is almost right, but it should be an "or", not an "and".


"Financial access is essential infrastructure, and no private corporation should have unchecked authority over what legal content Americans are allowed to access."

Once again, the removed content is illegal according to the US Law.



As sad, and possibly concerning, as is it, there's absolutely nothing illegal in what Visa did. They didn't complied to activists that wanted some content to be removed, but asked their partner to stop putting them at risk to break the banking regulations by processing transaction for content that is actually illegal.

Believe it or not, personally I don't care. But don't expect your letter to lead to something else than big laugh and even more disrespect for a community that will pass for full of horny brainless teenagers that should learn how to do some search on internet instead of passing their time masturbating.
You're putting wood in your opponent campfire, and if you continue this way it will grow as the massive fire you fear.
 

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Visa and Mastercard are NOT payment processors. They are payment card networks. Secondly, the bill DOES "regard" payment processors right here.
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And this still have absolutely nothing to do with the subject... They can't restrict the "payment card networks", and so? PayPal can't forbid you to use their service if you have a [whatever] card, that all.
 

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And this still have absolutely nothing to do with the subject... They can't restrict the "payment card networks", and so? PayPal can't forbid you to use their service if you have a [whatever] card, that all.
It helps encourage competition, dude. Not sure what you're not getting.
 

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Not sure what you're not getting.
It's not me that isn't getting it.

You're (generic) showing a key to someone, while telling to this person that it's bad to forbid car's doors to have windows. This while the said person want for cars to not have doors at all.
 

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Once again, the removed content is illegal according to the US Law.

As sad, and possibly concerning, as is it, there's absolutely nothing illegal in what Visa did. They didn't complied to activists that wanted some content to be removed, but asked their partner to stop putting them at risk to break the banking regulations by processing transaction for content that is actually illegal.
I had NO idea that games that show sexual content was illegal! /s

Where does it say its illegal in the U.S.? If that was true, then porn sites wouldn't exist here.

There is no law in regards to creator content having incest content either. Otherwise, Pornhub and many other sites would not carry it.

And to be honest, there are several States where incest IS legal, as there is with many countries.

But to say that they complied to not break the law themselves is disingenuous or you really don't know much about the laws. Creating policy is does not make it illegal.

All this DOES have to do with some very vocal people, Collective Shout, being the biggest. They've been trying to push their puritan morals for over a decade on the world by targeting companies, all under the guise of "protecting women and children." They were even the ones that were responsible for getting Patreon to do the same, even getting the clause in the ToS that states there must be consent in any real or animated content. And they are supposed to keep such consent on file? How does that work? So instead, they banned that type of content.
 
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Even if the act IS illegal, e.g. incest, fiction is fiction and it cannot be regarded the same as the act itself. What do we do, remove ALL the movies and books where the character is a serial killer, or a bank robber? Because I am pretty sure killing is illegal
 
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I had NO idea that games that show sexual content was illegal! /s

Where does it say its illegal in the U.S.? If that was true, then porn sites wouldn't exist here.

There is no law in regards to creator content having incest content either. Otherwise, Pornhub and many other sites would not carry it.

And to be honest, there are several States where incest IS legal, as there is with many countries.

But to say that they complied to not break the law themselves is disingenuous or you really don't know much about the laws. Creating policy is does not make it illegal.

All this DOES have to do with some very vocal people, Collective Shout, being the biggest. They've been trying to push their puritan morals for over a decade on the world by targeting companies, all under the guise of "protecting women and children." They were even the ones that were responsible for getting Patreon to do the same, even getting the clause in the ToS that states there must be consent in any real or animated content. And they are supposed to keep such consent on file? How does that work? So instead, they banned that type of content.
fictional incest is not illegal in any state in the US you can go to pornhub, xvideos, xhamster, etc and type in father daughter you'll get 100k-1M search results of actors acting out a fantasy or couples doing role play. it's been legal since porn came out in the US in 1969 and it's a common trope. real incest yes is illegal but anime characters and what not are not illegal, and they removed far more than incest from the stores such as dom, rape, power play, slave, corruption, etc.
 

Hieroglyphics

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Even if the act IS illegal, e.g. incest, fiction is fiction and it cannot be regarded the same as the act itself. What do we do, remove ALL the movies and books where the character is a serial killer, or a bank robber? Because I am pretty sure killing is illegal
you are 100% correct fictional media does not count, even on amazon you can find literal books on incest of high detailed pornography's about it written by woman which is mainly consumed by womaan lol.
 
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Don't support those stupid ass US bills, they'll make the situation worse. Also don't bother using AI to write a letter. Keep calling the phone numbers for a week to get the point across.

 

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fictional incest is not illegal in any state in the US you can go to pornhub, xvideos, xhamster, etc and type in father daughter you'll get 100k-1M search results of actors acting out a fantasy or couples doing role play. it's been legal since porn came out in the US in 1969 and it's a common trope. real incest yes is illegal but anime characters and what not are not illegal, and they removed far more than incest from the stores such as dom, rape, power play, slave, corruption, etc.
Oh, I know. That's why I had the /s showing sarcasm.

While some content is illegal in the real, in fiction settings, its perfectly legal and protected by the 1st.