VN AI can do a lot ... Even generative good Video (Check my trailer please)

[Chilly_villy]

With a great pleasure I would lke to introduce Sherine to the community and pre-release trailer.

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[doc_dot]

Can tell you that much. Independetly of how much hardcore it is going to be in the game. Even if it is going some Erotic Novel, it beats most of the games on this forum. But if it is going to be like this, remain to be seen. Can't wait to see the initial release.

 

[@LonelyWolf]

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With a great pleasure I would lke to introduce Sherine to the community and pre-release trailer.

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Hiya to you, Chilly_villy!

All right, I'm certainly not a fan of AI arts, but I must admit here that your trailer seems rather interesting AND promising...

Anyway, the friend: I wish you good luck for your new game as well as your futur projects!--!

 

[woody554]

but there is no game. there is no story. what you have is a bunch of cutscene video you can't really use DURING game but instead force player to wait between game interactions while these clips play. almost all of them are nearly unusable for a GAME. like is the player supposed to wait while the girl walks some stupid corridore? like have you no idea how little patience people have for pointless waiting?

and voicing is such a terrible idea to begin with even if it's done by real actors. the robotic AI speech makes it so much worse.

it seems like you've seriously misunderstood what the platform is. games are interactive, these clips are not. if you really wanna use this stuff you should make it a movie instead. use a platform that's meant for no interaction.

 

[Chilly_villy]

but there is no game. there is no story. what you have is a bunch of cutscene video you can't really use DURING game but instead force player to wait between game interactions while these clips play. almost all of them are nearly unusable for a GAME. like is the player supposed to wait while the girl walks some stupid corridore? like have you no idea how little patience people have for pointless waiting?

and voicing is such a terrible idea to begin with even if it's done by real actors. the robotic AI speech makes it so much worse.

it seems like you've seriously misunderstood what the platform is. games are interactive, these clips are not. if you really wanna use this stuff you should make it a movie instead. use a platform that's meant for no interaction.

Do you understand what the word trailer mean? Do you really think the game is going to be released as youtube video?

 

[zeratulek]

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Impressive. Which AI are you using to create this?

 

[Chilly_villy]

Impressive. Which AI are you using to create this?

Basically most of the most popular ones. There is no single one that can do all job done. Futherefmore, it also requires a lot of editing

 

[anne O'nymous]

[...] almost all of them are nearly unusable for a GAME. like is the player supposed to wait while the girl walks some stupid corridore? like have you no idea how little patience people have for pointless waiting?

Yeah, there's a reason why few games have animations outside of sex scenes, and it's not because animations are hard to do. Constant animations are just a big "no" outside of realtime 3D games, and something fully AI generated can only works as Visual Novel.

Having one punctually, when it add something to the game, why not. By example the animation of a opening door when the MC, and therefore the player, have no clue what's behind, can add a bit of tension. Or an animation can add a bit of dynamism to picture a long travel.
They can also works when they happen in the background. Like by example the door a the room opening when you're going down on your sister. Here too it can add a bit of tension or dynamism. But it's background scenes, so not what is seen in his trailer.

But having them from starts to stop just doesn't works.
You don't control the pace at which the player will advance. Therefore either you loop your animation, and it will feel weird, or you switch to a static once the animation is finished, and it will feel even more weird. And, of course, there's still players that will goes faster than your animations. Them will either have to wait before it finish, what is annoying as hell, or miss a part of each one of them.

and voicing is such a terrible idea to begin with even if it's done by real actors. the robotic AI speech makes it so much worse.

I disagree here, or, more precisely, I'm less categorical.
Some peoples like their games voiced, even on the adult gaming scene. But most dislike it, yes. They play those games as pure entertainment, or to fap, an prefer to listen to their own music while doing it. Having voiced characters would mess with this and they shut off the sound from the game.

it seems like you've seriously misunderstood what the platform is. games are interactive, these clips are not.

They can be, to such extend, but the works behind would be overwhelming.
Interactive games that are well done slowly but surely lead to scenes what can easily have half their dialog lines, and character reactions, that will differ depending on the previous choices. What mean that each clip have to be split in small extracts that will all have to fit with all the others.


This being said, there's another issue in top of all those ones, the lack of readability of the characters' mind. It's more or less excusable when the VN is done with steal renders, but not when it's animations or movies.
What is the first girl we see in the trailer thinking about? At 0.07 she's smiling, then change her mind at 0.09, at 0.10 she's thinking and at 0.12 when the scene end, she seen to regret her smile...
And the girl at 0.28 and following? From her dialog line, and after having watched the trailer, she seem to be a detective. Why is she so deprived of all expression?
And, a constant with AI generated content, way to many characters are looking straight at the camera...


The trailer is good, and it's fascinating to see what AI can do, but it's not something suitable for a Visual Novel. At most a Kinetic Novel but then, as you said, it's nothing more than a movie.

 

[desmosome]

Yeah, there's a reason why few games have animations outside of sex scenes, and it's not because animations are hard to do. Constant animations are just a big "no" outside of realtime 3D games, and something fully AI generated can only works as Visual Novel.

Having one punctually, when it add something to the game, why not. By example the animation of a opening door when the MC, and therefore the player, have no clue what's behind, can add a bit of tension. Or an animation can add a bit of dynamism to picture a long travel.
They can also works when they happen in the background. Like by example the door a the room opening when you're going down on your sister. Here too it can add a bit of tension or dynamism. But it's background scenes, so not what is seen in his trailer.

But having them from starts to stop just doesn't works.
You don't control the pace at which the player will advance. Therefore either you loop your animation, and it will feel weird, or you switch to a static once the animation is finished, and it will feel even more weird. And, of course, there's still players that will goes faster than your animations. Them will either have to wait before it finish, what is annoying as hell, or miss a part of each one of them.




I disagree here, or, more precisely, I'm less categorical.
Some peoples like their games voiced, even on the adult gaming scene. But most dislike it, yes. They play those games as pure entertainment, or to fap, an prefer to listen to their own music while doing it. Having voiced characters would mess with this and they shut off the sound from the game.




They can be, to such extend, but the works behind would be overwhelming.
Interactive games that are well done slowly but surely lead to scenes what can easily have half their dialog lines, and character reactions, that will differ depending on the previous choices. What mean that each clip have to be split in small extracts that will all have to fit with all the others.


This being said, there's another issue in top of all those ones, the lack of readability of the characters' mind. It's more or less excusable when the VN is done with steal renders, but not when it's animations or movies.
What is the first girl we see in the trailer thinking about? At 0.07 she's smiling, then change her mind at 0.09, at 0.10 she's thinking and at 0.12 when the scene end, she seen to regret her smile...
And the girl at 0.28 and following? From her dialog line, and after having watched the trailer, she seem to be a detective. Why is she so deprived of all expression?
And, a constant with AI generated content, way to many characters are looking straight at the camera...


The trailer is good, and it's fascinating to see what AI can do, but it's not something suitable for a Visual Novel. At most a Kinetic Novel but then, as you said, it's nothing more than a movie.

This is the most pro-AI post I've seen from the perpetually grumpy old Frenchman.

 

[anne O'nymous]

This is the most pro-AI post I've seen from the perpetually grumpy old Frenchman.

Well, I can recognize when there's quality and efforts put behind a creation, even when I'm skeptical regarding the tool(s) used for it.