`AI images rework

[SilentRider]

Hello everyone!
I am an user and avid reader/player for a number of VN/games here. After a number of years of only enjoying, it's time for me to give something back. I was delighted by the consistency, artwork and storytelling of games like Babysitter, BADIK, Pale Carnations or Acting Lessons. This isn't an exhaustive list, as i enjoyed for these very reasons about 15-20 games.
For about 5 months now im experimenting with Ai image generation and rework. Took some (not negligible) money and time in order to hack my way through the jungle of AI imagery generation jungle.
Ill post here some images i reworked with AI assistance. Any feedback would be appreciated!
PS: I'll let you guess whos who and from which game. Enjoy! View attachment 6797cdcc0f9dfe708d7529b18bcf2a41_high.webp View attachment 50e794ddbc169c424313705af3da46c6_high.webp View attachment b9259b2f6f0c6029f47d61e5c02d42aa_high.webp View attachment e6e1e7be3f84af16207cf82c60d8feb9_high.webp View attachment 2dcb137676b2cdd757ff7eb4ecb1376c_high.webp View attachment 32e48bb13df364cb688dd38b763654c5_high.webp View attachment d2a68405a9433f0293312b768a46c2db_high.webp View attachment f56ed6bd7becfc8cbb496d1d059d7bbc_high.webp View attachment 65a7d5924d8f3a93ad7a3f109db52103_high.webp View attachment 2e3e69629e25222e6ac26d37df5add66_high.webp

 

[baka]

so, whats your plan?
will we see some rework, like we can download a package that replace the images of a game?
I think the best would be to take a complete old game that would benefit from a rework. theres plenty of low quality daz games and HS-engine.
as for the renders, the babes from Pale Carnations need some work on their face. body is good, but the face are not as "cute/hot" like the original.

 

[SilentRider]

I honestly would like to rework a complete game, end to end, but, only with the original developer's blessing. It will depend on feedback of the users and very important, if the dev agrees. In the end im using the original images as a canvas...

 

[baka]

sounds good.
and could be theres more people that want to contribute.
not sure how involving it is to rework. if its just "download this" "input picture""render" "done" anyone can help.
but if u need to train AI, adjust setting for each picture, that require knowledge and dedication.

 

[SilentRider]

1. My apologies, i didn't replied to your feedback of Pale Carnations images. Ill take it into account of course, but in order to keep the original cute/hot flavour id have to create a specific set of settings, generate the images with that set of settings, then post them and create a poll. The way i see them isn't the way the rest does so...
2. In regards to rework amount of actual work...eh, download, input, rework, upload would be soooo simple...! took me as written earlier, 5 months of AI training and trying different settings. there are literally HUNDREDS of models ( each with its own way of rendition), LORA's, sampling models, sampling steps, CFG scale etc. imagine, you have about 250 models, about 50 LORA, 30 sampling nethods, 40 sampling steps and about 40 CFG. thats 250x50x40x40 aaand about 4294967294 image seeds. No bullshitting. And not each set of configs is good for all games...or even images...
3. Ill take any kind of feedback about the results graciously.

 

[baka]

yeah. I figure its a tremendous amount of work if u want to add multiple characters.
each one need tons of work.
wouldn't learning daz/blender be better?
it seems that using AI is not easy. while daz u can almost immediately start rendering, even if u start as a noob, u can at least render something, using AI it will result in garbage first.

also, theres this "AI" style that after awhile it start to get obvious and not in a good way.

 

[SilentRider]

Well, what i like about the AI i'm using, i found a few models that, in img to img rendition result in images with a very real feel. Im not looking for 3d rendering, what im looking for it's giving the real feel to the 3d rendered characters, like...making one think they could be real persons, in a very real landscape/background. I think, after 6-7 years of watching the 3d rendering get better and better, its time for the next jump, creating games with unlimited possibilities in regards to the things we wanna depict, in a very real environment, with very real looking characters. to me it started from the moment i saw a game like BADIK and scratched my head thinking "hey how they would look like in real life?"
Here are some of the variants i obtained for Jill/BADIK. one if them i think is as real as i can think and close to the vibe the original character has. View attachment cd770dae552d71c6c7f75b32c84b66b7_high.webp View attachment 8bd8940a3fe39e9b317b4e5380319647_high.webp View attachment 28e13f71ebc71f93dde18c41ce3f42d1_high.webp View attachment 6a3571cdad3b50c565a1bc76715aabd3_high.webp

 

[baka]

Im sure that when u reach a certain level the AI is starting to be a good tool to use.
surely u need to keep working, perfecting it, training it to a quality u are satisfied with.
that starting part is what made me drop it. too much work and too little returns. as the result was always garbage.

the preview show the power of AI. different faces, similar backgrounds.
but when u take a closer look, u see the imperfection. stuff getting altered and sometimes in a weird way.

AI can be great, but it can also be scary. weird stuff that can give u nightmares.

 

[SilentRider]

it all depends on the starting point. BADIK images are processed in such a way that is giving me loots of headaches in order to get to a decent resutl. while, the ones form Babysitters are just...perfect! im getting to amazing results using as mould Tabbo's imagery (see in the attachment)
as about the power of AI, its a tool. morphine, coocaine were invented as medicine. gunpowder as means to make fireworks and so on...it all depends on the handler and the intent. View attachment eb546424afbfbb12653c1bec5fe3fa9b_high.webp View attachment 28d372697b06fb59714be3a16f25d1d8_high.webp View attachment b3030dad912637d7a0d9a618da9c4c91_high.webp

 

[baka]

yeah. they look better. your AI is trained to recognize babysitter better than BADIK.
babysitter is an old game that could be great to rework. as many images are quite low quality.