AI Porn: Slop and Creative Bankruptcy, Plus A Game Concept I Had lol

DigitalMan

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Is it just my lack of interest, or do most AI porn games just exist to exist, to be random slop to be consumed and then discarded and forgotten about? All of the AI porn games I've seen stress how much content there is, but it all seems to be generic vanilla stuff, with no creativity behind it at all. I saw a gacha AI porn game, Lust Goddess, while perusing through the Steam selection of adult content, none of which ever really seems to be much fun to me, as I prefer porn games with good porn and game integration, and most porn games are really just kinda crappy games with porn sprinkled in at certain points, or just porn in a more interactive format, with few game elements. That's a tangent, maybe my tastes are just super picky... Anyway, this Lust Goddess game just filled me with an intense feeling of numbness, not quite boredom, but more like an absence of both boredom and interest. It was like a black hole of intrigue, I couldn't think of any good reason to bother with it, yet I couldn't just shove it out of my mind like most boring things.

That's when I realized that almost all other AI games are the same for me, and so I wanted to start such a discussion up. I'm actually generally amiable towards AI porn, but why are all the porn games that use AI art so... boring? It's like none of the people who use AI for the art of their games have any interest in making an actually interesting game, a game that at least has an interesting premise in lieu of interesting art. After all, AI art is, arguably by its very nature, super samey and generic, which is one of my main issues with it. I especially hate all the Rule34 AI slop that somebody stroked their dick to for five seconds then never looked at again, yet it gets uploaded to porn sites and clogs up traffic with stuff nobody cares to look at. A hentai based gacha with AI art, and that's it? Why not just play Taimanin? Or hell, I could probably get off to just ordinary Fate or Genshin Impact better than most AI porn, it's just not interesting. I mean, it's so uninteresting that I don't even have any more to say on it. AI games suck right now, not necessarily cause "da robits are makin da pikturs :(((((" but more so because I have yet to see a single AI game that had a developer with more than half a cup of almost expired creativity pooling somewhere in his bones. Prove me wrong? Eh, I don't care that much about it, but if you know of a porn game that used AI that is actually interesting, feel free to post a link.

Anyway, that aside, I really just wanted to share a game idea I had that might incorporate AI porn, cause of how intensely I dislike most AI porn games I see. It might not be a conceptually more appealing game, but I think the concept makes for a good "wtf" game. Basically, I thought up a (to me) more interesting "hentai gacha" than Lust Goddess, and I thought it up within seconds of seeing that game on Steam, due to the shock of the simultaneous non-existence of boredom and interest that seeing it instilled in me. Just hear me out:

Everybody knows gacha games are predatory. Some a little less than others, but the format itself is pretty much made to prey on addictive gambling types, and there's a bit of gambler in all of us. A hentai gacha would probably be even more so, due to the way that sex effects the brain and decision making, thus making players even more emotionally attached and like, addicted to the game. Soooo... why not lean into that?

How about an NTR hentai gacha? If you don't grind or pay, the waifus you've obtained will be stolen away from you, and you have to watch them get fucked by other men right before your eyes? Now, I don't like NTR myself much at all, but I just laughed so hard when I first thought it up, and it was fun to think through it, so I wanted to share. Imagine it's structured like a clicker game, and you have to click to gain a resource, let's say coins, which you use to roll for new waifus, but also use to keep your already acquired girls from getting fucked by some other men. There's like a little window in the corner of the screen, below the clicking interface, and you see some like, big black dudes slowly approaching and then fondling your girl, and you need to use the coins from clicking to keep them away, but you don't just pay them, you have to click on the cuck window to funnel the coins in, a certain amount per click. BUT the coins you earn per click and how many you can spend per click on the black dudes need to be levelled up with those very same coins, and the black dudes keep needing more and more to keep away. So you end up in this frantic state of being worried about your girls getting cucked, so you click to get coins, but you also need to click on the cuck window to spend the coins and keep away the men, but you also also need to make sure you have enough coins to outpace them as they steadily require more and more coins to keep away, until finally you fail, and the cuckoldry happens. Or, maybe you succeed, and the dudes get repelled... but then the girl you managed to keep goes to a sort of "storage", the player's house/base. And you can't click to get coins unless a girl is in the cuck window, but your saved waifu needs to be given coins leftover from when you repelled the men to stay in the player house. So you either roll for a new waifu, and start again with her, or eventually, cause you can't click to get coins, the girl you managed to keep goes back to the cuck window, and the process starts again.

There could also be some other kinks thrown in as well. Everyone knows how bad premium currencies are in most gacha games; imagine if in this game, you can get premium currency, but the girls that you have with you take it from you, throwing in a bit of findom from your own girls that you worked so hard to protect from those other men; maybe they're just money hungry, or maybe they want to cuck you? Whose to say? Or maybe, to get premium currency, you have to give up several girls to cuckoldry, but you only get a bit of premium despite the cost to your dignity, so it's like findom and NTR simultaneously.

There could be a system where some of the girls you lost to cuckoldry will try to disrupt your clicking; let's say you have to click on a button to earn coins, and these NTR'd girls will move it around, block it, generally fuck around with you, or maybe even just whisper some sort of cuck encouragement, nudging the player towards, well, being a cuck, and letting the black dudes go on unimpeded. The posibillities aren't endless, and I'm certainly no programmer, but I feel like if I actually learn some programming (which I really do plan to, and have made at least a bit of progress in), with such a concept, I could do a lot.

And of course, the main topic of discussion would be the art! What kind of artist would I even be able to commission to take on such an arduous task as this kind of game?! Well, that's where AI art would come in. Since the premise is the main focus, the art can take a backseat to the emotional ride of trying your hardest to keep the girl you like from getting fucked by a bunch of big dudes, while an old crush that you had is whispering in your ear to stop fighting and let her get fucked right in front of you, like she was before. Even without being an NTR fan, I almost wanna try to make that right now, even without any skill. It's a unique premise for once in a sea of generic AI slop, and while the scale is impressive, I don't think it's beyond the scope of a year or so of casual development time, maybe a few months of super dedicated development. If such an AI generated porn game existed, would you play it, even just out of curiosity?
 
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P.S. If I did actually make this, I obviously wouldn't actually charge people for it, and I wouldn't make it all that time consuming either. I would probably make it so that you could either lose or rescue a girl within like, ten minutes, tops, and limit the number of girls that are actually available. After all, time is money, and I wouldn't wanna charge people for AI anything, anytime soon. I mostly just thought this up cause that hentai gacha, Lust Goddess, seems just as predatory, maybe without realizing it, maybe not, but either way it's not honest about it, and that's terrible. I just decided to think up a game that is pseudo-predatory, without actually messing with people's wallets or heads, unlike that shit which is really trying to get you to latch onto it emotionally, and then financially.

edit: By the way, I think maybe the name of the game would be... Beta Impact? Fate/Grand Cuckoldry? NTRKnights? Cuck's Frontline? BBC: Shadow Legends? Okay, that last one is a bit much.
 

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but it all seems to be generic vanilla stuff, with no creativity behind it at all.
That's mostly due to the limitations of current AI models - most are trained with vanilla stuff.

This one took a couple of minutes:
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A few hours:
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Close to a day:
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Half a week:
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The more specific and non-standard you want, the more work it will take.

Since most AI games are cashgrabs, they will go with the fastest option so they can say that they have a thousand pictures, even if they're all super generic ones that took a few minutes each.
 

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The more specific and non-standard you want, the more work it will take.

Since most AI games are cashgrabs, they will go with the fastest option so they can say that they have a thousand pictures, even if they're all super generic ones that took a few minutes each.
I don't mean the art itself, plus all of those have the same generic artstyle, regardless of content, at least from my view. What I'm referring to is the premise behind half the stuff. You were more on point when you mentioned the fact that most of em are cashgrabs; there's seemingly no creativity behind the project as a whole, discounting the art. I'm making the point that most devs using AI could have a fleet of the best human porn/hentai artists behind them, the product they end up putting out would still be bland and insipid. It's a matter of direction, not of visuals. The situations aren't arousing, the characters jump to having sex with no build up, so you're barely even hard by the time it's full blown rough and rowdy sex, and it's just disillusioning. Makes me want to stop jacking off and go read a book, preferably these ones beside me on programming so I can get started on my super cool donut steal original concept already.
 

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P.S. If I did actually make this, I obviously wouldn't actually charge people for it, and I wouldn't make it all that time consuming either. I would probably make it so that you could either lose or rescue a girl within like, ten minutes, tops, and limit the number of girls that are actually available. After all, time is money, and I wouldn't wanna charge people for AI anything, anytime soon. I mostly just thought this up cause that hentai gacha, Lust Goddess, seems just as predatory, maybe without realizing it, maybe not, but either way it's not honest about it, and that's terrible. I just decided to think up a game that is pseudo-predatory, without actually messing with people's wallets or heads, unlike that shit which is really trying to get you to latch onto it emotionally, and then financially.

edit: By the way, I think maybe the name of the game would be... Beta Impact? Fate/Grand Cuckoldry? NTRKnights? Cuck's Frontline? BBC: Shadow Legends? Okay, that last one is a bit much.
Yea get this for sure but I think we all know it's because it easy and a cash grab. They go hand and hand. Someone with a real passion will need to take those tools and take the time to get something going. I don't think anyone wants to take the time to learn to utilize AI art to its fullest. Once someone does I think AI games will become more interesting once peeps have a templet we will see better games. As for your game I laughed but i love this though for a game it genius tbh. Get cucked because I didn't pay enough money that's great. If this idea does develop further I would be down to test anything or support as well.
 

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That's mostly due to the limitations of current AI models - most are trained with vanilla stuff.

This one took a couple of minutes:
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A few hours:
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Close to a day:
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Half a week:
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The more specific and non-standard you want, the more work it will take.

Since most AI games are cashgrabs, they will go with the fastest option so they can say that they have a thousand pictures, even if they're all super generic ones that took a few minutes each.
hehe, nice result for half a week
 
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Satori6

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Honestly yea not bad at all. I'm curious on how I need to tweak an AI to do this.
It's mostly massive amounts of post-edition paired with the use of img2img and frequent prompt tweaking.

And patience - lots of patience. You'll be making tons of pictures and edits to get from this to this:
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Only to have her stored in your "to do" folder for months before you finally include her in your game.

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I have a short tutorial in my signature. I've been meaning to add another part about post edition, and one showing the full process for one image - from start to finish, but I barely get enough time as it is. I'll eventually add those parts to the tutorial, but it may not be soon.
 
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It's mostly massive amounts of post-edition paired with the use of img2img and frequent prompt tweaking.

And patience - lots of patience. You'll be making tons of pictures and edits to get from this to this:
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Only to have her stored in your "to do" folder for months before you finally include her in your game.

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I have a short tutorial in my signature. I've been meaning to add another part about post edition, and one showing the full process for one image - from start to finish, but I barely get enough time as it is. I'll eventually add those parts to the tutorial, but it may not be soon.
That is very cool! Thanks for the info I may look into this more but I can see what you mean lol.
 
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