Is it just me or AI in games is taking the whole indie games community down? I mean, I understand AI is faster, looks good, you don't have copyright issues, great, BUT c'mon you don't have ANY editing possibilities with it, a little movement and that's it, you don't have the flexibility you have with a real 2d/3d character. I don't hate AI but lately all I see is AI "games" that are just visual novels with a few images with AI and a lot of the times doesn't even have continuity, its not persistent. Also that, the visual novels, ALL nowadays is visual novels, those are not really games, you don't play anything. If you don't have designers, character models or whatever, maybe its time you think twice if you are ready to make a game. Now a lot of people just to belong, or have at least something created end up doing this new AI boring visual novels that are NOT games. Idk maybe its just me, but with this we are we are lowering the bar, the standards.
AI Visual Novels are boring and NOT games.
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GrimCreeper3
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I was literally just looking then, and was thinking its way to much being added to the site to the point that each page is like 70% AI. Owner needs to add a section dedicated to just AI games.
morphnet
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It's just you...
There is a good part of the indie games community that actually enjoys games that include AI...
You mean apart from people using AI to edit / enhance their original works, editing AI after creation, using AI for backgrounds etc.
btw what is a "real" 2d character?
You could just exclude it... if you're one of those that don't want to see it but refuse to exclude it, then that's on you.
Many AI do have continuity, maybe you're just looking at the wrong ones? Also many non-AI games have the problem of scenes lacking continuity maybe add those in your complaint too.... just to be fair and all?
Not all... yes they are games and yes you do play them...
If you don't know about the game development process, maybe it's time you think twice if you are ready to comment on it?
Of the comment section and threads absolutely! Of games, there have ALWAYS been games people like and don't like...
Those games you are complaining about do have fans and people who enjoy them.
No one is forcing any of you guys to look at them, download them, extract them and then play them.
Also, you couldn't have just commented in one of the active "AI hurt me threads"? Did you have to make another one?
Here AI excluded... and if it really bothers you, you can go to preferences and go down to prefixes and ignore / exclude AI there too... you're welcome
https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/notags=2265
So far today, 58 games have been added or updated, of those 14 have the ai cg tag
In the last 7 days, 335 games have been added or updated, of those 60 have the ai cg tag
In the last 30 days, 1444 games have been added or updated, of those 288 have the ai cg tag
So no, each page is NOT like 70% AI, it's also NOT kinda like or sorta like... what the owner really needs to do is add a section dedicated just to threads and comments complaining about exaggerated, non-existent ai problems....
and... here is the ai cg excluded link for you too....
https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/notags=2265
Jaike another boohoo AI is mean to me thread...
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I suppose you're right, if its just pictures and text it is not so much a game. But on the other side you are sitting on the computer and you're clicking your mouse so its kind of gaming experience still
its a complicated question - What's a game? If you were to ask an older person if sitting on the computer reading your 2d Japanese highschool dating fetish story counts as playing a game, I think they would say yes. Anyways about the standards thing, lay out your plan of action what you would do and then we'll look and see. Just saying vague stuff about standards kinda doesn't mean anything? I wanna hear what you would do if you were the master of the f95zone
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Visual Novels generally suck because most of them remove any individuality from your choices to your character. "This character is annoying and there is no fuck off dialogue option. Shame."
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I ate them all.
Now suffer, or generate them with AI.
*Visual Novels are not games*
Here, fixed it for you. I can't speak for their fun part; everyone has their preference. While they are indeed extremely tropey, you could say that for 80% of non-ai content as well.
Here, fixed it for you. I can't speak for their fun part; everyone has their preference. While they are indeed extremely tropey, you could say that for 80% of non-ai content as well.
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⍙⊑⊬ ⍙⍜⎍⌰⎅ ⊬⍜⎍ ⍙⏃⋏⏁ ⏁⊑⏃⏁?I'm still pretty upset that the english alphabet is still used. Like I want more letters at this point. So limiting. I'm upset every time I see something made with letters that form words.
MissCougar
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Shocker that the people who didn't want to put in the work to learn how to draw also can't put in the work in other places.
I'm shocked, I tell you. SHOCKED! Not that shocked.
I'm shocked, I tell you. SHOCKED! Not that shocked.
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I don't give a shit if VNs are games or not - as long as I'm enjoying them, then it hardly matters.
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I AM a game developer, thats why Im commenting on this. Again I know "no one force me" to play those games, but I have the impression that lately most of the games are AI games, and a LOT of them are not well made, are lazy "games" with AI images.
I mean having the character designed and the source file to modify and edit animations, movements, poses, etc. Not just an AI image that then you will ask another ai to make it move, i mean the way games use to be made, with sources and real work, not with a prompt.
Meh. DAZ vs AI, its the same shit. Consider how wooden DAZ, HS, Club17 games used to be a decade ago and look at them now. I'm sure AI will make leaps and bounds with the quality of porn games in the not so distant future. For now, these filler games are just part of the process.
What truly annoys me about AI atm is the absolute lack of variety. There are some good ones but why are the majority of them just NTSfests
What truly annoys me about AI atm is the absolute lack of variety. There are some good ones but why are the majority of them just NTSfests
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morphnet
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Most people complaining think they are game experts (and not just about AI), this is why I said " the game development process " Unless you guys were actually standing in the room or in some form communicating with the dev / dev's as they made the games, claiming "it's low effort or lazy" has no basis.
Most new dev's first games are not good and comparing them to dev's who've been working on a game or games for years and have gained experience under their belt is a cheap shot.
YOUR "impression" is wrong, YOUR impression could easily be fact checked by YOU and YOU could adjust YOUR impression.
It would be pretty quick and easy...
23079 total games on this site
1417 total AI CG tagged games on this site
In the last 365 days 7224 - games have been added
In the last 365 days 1025 - ai cg tagged games have been added
In the last 180 days 4680 - games have been added
In the last 180 days 708 - ai cg tagged games have been added
In the last 90 days 3011 - games have been added
In the last 90 days 490 - ai cg tagged games have been added
In the last 30 days 1438 - games have been added
In the last 30 days 283 - ai cg tagged games have been added
Games tagged ai cg don't even come close to making up half of the games added lately, so they definitely DO NOT make up MOST. You guys with your "gives the impression" or "seems like" or "feels like" or "looks like" have all the information at your finger tips and all the tools needed to find and see that information.
There is NO excuse to go around bad mouthing things when you guys are unwilling or too lazy to fact check what you are saying. Of course if you guys did do that, you'd find almost all your arguments up in smoke and all you'd be left with is "because you don't like it"
Are you talking about the original games that were ONLY made with a prompt?
Are you talking about the games where artists used e-pens to create all their characters?
Maybe you are talking about games where dev's took 3d models from other artists and used them with a GUI to edit animations, movements, poses, etc.
Maybe you are talking about the games where dev's took character made in another games studio and again used a GUI to edit animations, movements, poses, etc.
Are YOU creating ALL your games the same way they were first made? Using nothing but a prompt and code? or are you using new tools that have come out over the years to make the work easier? and if you are using the tools that came out over the years, what makes you ANY BETTER than the dev's using new tools now to make their games?
You guys are quick to complain but you quickly forget your way of doing things is NOT the original way, yet you still feel the need and the right to look down on the dev's now.