Seeking Any incest games with relationships between family members that are not *always* centered on MC?

manneychin

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I'm extremely bored with the overwhelmingly common premise of a male MC being centrally involved in any incest that goes on in the family, with him eventually getting an all-female harem and especially with dad being absent / killed off / otherwise neutered (ungrateful motherfuckers! :)).

IMPORTANT: F95's definition of NTR is very slippery.
Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC
It allows saying I'm looking for NTR because many would feel jalousie if anyone other than their MC would be seriously involved with anyone else in the family. I, however, don't think I'm looking for NTR because I'm specifically looking for games where the simplistic harem path is NOT central and the path where family members get to fuck each other without MC necessarily being there are NOT just marginal avoidable bumps designed to stir jalousie in those who are into that kind of thing. Instead, these paths are a mark of a much more perverted & complex situation.

So I'm looking for things like:

  • MC-son fucks mom behind dad's back but she still loves dad and continues fucking him on the regular with MC sneakingly getting to fuck her, sometimes right after dad. Dad may even know what's going on but, like the perverted boss that he is, he graciously allows his boy to get some with his mom.
  • MC-mom fucks daughter behind dad's back, working to get him to fuck her too. Sometimes, after she fucks her husband, she visits her daughter and lets her eat her daddy's cum right out of her pussy, as a midnight snack.
  • MC-son secretly fucks mom but dad also does the same with daughter so the two teams dance around each other, specifically trying to keep the family going because they still love each other
  • MC son & dad team up to fuck mom & daughter

Do you know games like that? How would I go about filtering / searching for this kind of games here (should I assume they would always be tagged NTR)?
 

Avaron1974

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Sisterly Lust has one of the best incest harems in that all the girls fuck each other and the MC isn't always part of it.

Parental Love is similar. MC's sister fucks his wife.
 

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I'm specifically looking for games where the simplistic harem path is NOT central and the path where family members get to fuck each other without MC necessarily being there are NOT just marginal avoidable bumps designed to stir jalousie in those who are into that kind of thing.
Doesn't this defeat the reason to have an incest game ?
I agree that, over time, girls having eyes only for the MC is boring. But the "not MC centered" approach don't really works with incest stories.

Incest is a taboo, something that the girls in the family wouldn't do if it wasn't for the MC.
Where is this taboo if they fuck anyone in the family ? Where is MC's super powered dick attraction, or his corruption factor, if the girls are already so perverted that fucking a related is not a problem for them ? Where is the story if the MC is just "yet another family member to bang" ?
I don't remember the name, but there's one game where the story premise is that MC come from a fully incestuous family. Everyone fuck everyone since generations, know it and don't care ; it's a family tradition you've to do, period. Yet even in it everything is centered on the MC, because it would lost its interest else.


  • MC-son fucks mom behind dad's back but she still loves dad and continues fucking him on the regular with MC sneakingly getting to fuck her, sometimes right after dad. Dad may even know what's going on but, like the perverted boss that he is, he graciously allows his boy to get some with his mom.
If she' still in love with her husband and still have sex with him, it's lust that lead her ; or the father perversion. Then she would have sex with whoever, not just with her son. The incest isn't the sex factor here, it's a side consequence of the mother/parents perversion ; since the mother already fuck any dick that come close enough, why not also her son's one.
Where is the corruption ? Where is the, "but it's my son" ?


  • MC-mom fucks daughter behind dad's back, working to get him to fuck her too. Sometimes, after she fucks her husband, she visits her daughter and lets her eat her daddy's cum right out of her pussy, as a midnight snack.
Same than above, except that in this story the Main Character isn't the Playable Character. The MC is the mother, since it's her who want to bang all her relatives, and her that we will see in most sex scenes, including scenes where the son will not be present. And while it's the son that we control, all the sex is clearly centered around the mother, therefore around the MC.


  • MC-son secretly fucks mom but dad also does the same with daughter so the two teams dance around each other, specifically trying to keep the family going because they still love each other
A hentai classical that can't really be turned into a game, unless you've two Playable Characters we switch from. Else, half of the game would be us witnessing interactions of characters we have no control over ; what would be even more boring than everything being centered around the MC.


  • MC son & dad team up to fuck mom & daughter
So all turn around the MC, who don't care to share with his dad.


In games, by definition everything have to be centered around the Playable Character, because it's the one we control ; one choose a game because he want to have some say over the story.
Imagine a Call of Duty game, but one where you control a Private, while the story is the one of his platoon leader. You'll see briefings that aren't intended to you, you'll see actions that don't concern you, and some times you'll have to fight, because the said platoon leader is near to you, or because you've to go save him. You'll play a game, but pass 90% of your time just looking at cut scenes.
Worse, you'll have almost no words to say during the 10% of the time you'll be effectively playing. You're fighting near to the MC, but since it's his story (it's what "Main Character of the story" mean), if he go to the left, you'll have to go to the left, period. The whole game would be the worse than an escort mission can give.

It doesn't mean that we can't see scenes that happen "behind the scene", but they have to stay relevant to the story and be a small part of the content. If it's to pass most of our time witnessing people we have no control over fucks like crazy, there's porn movies for this, and even the lamest ones are more interesting than a sex scene in a game. It's the context and the possible personal implication that make sex scenes from game interesting, but here the context is "it's not you who fuck". Possibly interesting for people with voyeurism fetish, relatively boring for anyone who don't want to be cucked or isn't ready to share his girls and witness them doing it.
It also doesn't mean that girls should be all ears for the MC, they can have a life, including a sex life, on their own. But unless it's a NTR or sharing game, when they start their relation with the MC, their sex life now turn around him, while they still keep all the other aspect of their life.

But, once again, NTR/sharing don't fit well with incest. You don't corrupt your lovely mother, you just bang the sex crazed woman who gave birth to you. And you don't steal the sweet innocence of your sister, you jump on the train and wait your turn to fuck her. If it's your kink, I have nothing against it, but the taboo of incest is just a detail in such stories, not the reason to choose this story over others.
 

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Milfs Villa has some of the things you seek. Not an overwhelming amount, but its there.
 

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The Guardian has the older daughter educating the younger ones, even before the MC came in the picture.
The MC can opt to continue that and watch or to stop it.
Unfortunately there isn't a huge amount of content featuring this specific story part.

Oopsy Daisy also has some of that included in the latest update, it looks like with more to come in the future.

Doesn't this defeat the reason to have an incest game ?
I agree that, over time, girls having eyes only for the MC is boring. But the "not MC centered" approach don't really works with incest stories.

Incest is a taboo, something that the girls in the family wouldn't do if it wasn't for the MC.
Where is this taboo if they fuck anyone in the family ? Where is MC's super powered dick attraction, or his corruption factor, if the girls are already so perverted that fucking a related is not a problem for them ? Where is the story if the MC is just "yet another family member to bang" ?
I don't remember the name, but there's one game where the story premise is that MC come from a fully incestuous family. Everyone fuck everyone since generations, know it and don't care ; it's a family tradition you've to do, period. Yet even in it everything is centered on the MC, because it would lost its interest else.
I agree that incest without the taboo (the family which has been doing it for generations and where it is normal) is boring as fuck.

However I also find your other example, the "MC's super powered dick attraction" pretty boring, because it's very predictable.

And I agree with the OP that, in the right setting, it can be very hot to have various familiy members getting involved with each other outside the MC, provided that the story still has the taboo factor. Like Parental Love for example.

In my personal opinion, it's not NTR if the MC is the only male and the female family members have fun between themselves. It could be NTR if there are other male family members having fun with the females, but I think that depends entirely on the setting.
 

woody554

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the tag you seem to be looking for is 'cheating'.

and possibly 'female protagonist', although I don't really get what exactly you mean by 'not mc' as all of your examples are with mc in the center, like 'mc-mom' etc. so that made me assume you actually meant you don't want a male mc.

dad+son team would fall under the category of 'sharing'.

ntr is more geared towards you enjoying the helpless feeling of being abused.
 

Yngling

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the tag you seem to be looking for is 'cheating'.
It's not cheating, more like sharing. But as everyone knows the tags aren't always particularly accurate.
I think the OP means more the actual content rather than tags.
 
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woody554

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It's not cheating, more like sharing. But as everyone knows the tags aren't always particularly accurate.
I think the OP means more the actual content rather than tags.
he wants them to go behind others' back, so cheating. only the dad+son team was sharing.
 

Yngling

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he wants them to go behind others' back, so cheating. only the dad+son team was sharing.
That is perhaps the question: if two people go behind the MC's back, but the MC (more or less) knows about it and is totally ok with it, is it cheating? Or still sharing because he's ok with it? In my opinion, cheating is by definition negative to the person who is being cheated on. NTR is difficult because of the "designed to cause jealousy" definition, since jealousy is somewhat subjective.

Especially considering incest: if there are two brothers, it's not like one of them has somehow more "rights" to their sister than the other one. This is fundamentally different than when two people are married and a third one get's involved, because in that case it is clear that the husband has more rights to his wife than the third person.
 

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However I also find your other example, the "MC's super powered dick attraction" pretty boring, because it's very predictable.
Oh, I didn't said that it was a more interesting approach, just that it's the one generally expected in a harem incest game.
 
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Long lost daughter has a tangled web of incest (centered on the dad, tho). Some sister-sister and daughter-mother/grandmother.