Seeking Any interest in a VN with femdom/sissification/forced bi/bdsm themes?

heartagram10

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Hey there,

I've been toying around with Daz3D for a while now to educate myself on basic 3D figure renderings and found this game genre by accident while looking for clothing etc. Played most of the popular games, quite exciting stuff :)

However what I can't find is what I've posted in the title. There are a few scenes here and there (like a scene from The Twist) that have similar content, but it's not a focal point.

I have a very vague idea of what kind of story I'd like to tell - about a young man (~early 20s) meeting a sexy slightly older woman (~late 20s), mysterious yet familiar, sort of a dark "librarian" type. Wanting just sex but getting something totally different in return. The VN would be from the POV of the male character with few but important choices, like yelling out the "safe word" which would dictate possible future scenes, but mainly driven by the female character.

The story line would probably be linear (no exploration) but would maybe have choices at set intervals (like go to class OR go see the woman OR rest) that would trigger certain events or just have work as an option to see all the scenes. For instance skipping multiple classes results in expulsion which would trigger the option to get a job and if you fail at that game over. There would be balance of what to do in order to progress and/or future content could be added in that way (naughty teacher in class, abusive boss at work, etc.).

Just as in most of the games where the characters get more open to sexual encounters as the story progresses, here the character would follow a path from a regular straight college kid, to a submissive male toy for the female character and possibly others (and possibly male too). Also thinking of a possible younger (~18ish) female character that the male protagonist would have as his play toy, using what he learned on her (ala 50 shades of gray).

I'd like to make the visuals unique, have a dark vibe, grungy to fit the theme when necessary. In Daz3D I have a looooong way to go in terms of lighting, that's something I struggle a lot, but with time it's getting better.

Anyway .. I'm wondering if there would be any interest in this kind of a game, the genres aren't mainstream enough to capture an audience the size of the popular games, but maybe a small core of people with ideas, tips and etc. would like to be part of a niche game.

Here are a few renders of mine while toying around with lighting and props that have nothing to do with the game, just what vibe I'd like to have and what visuals I have in mind.
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anschwww

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Also thinking of a possible younger (~18ish) female character that the male protagonist would have as his play toy,
wait what? No Mother? I thought that is rule#1 in any VN :pokerFace:
so a bit like which have 682 Patrons, so why not? :FuckYea:
 

Fipsi

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I'd be interested, since I enjoy the sissification genre and have been playing some of the html games. Haven't seen any VNs so I'm excited for that.
Do you plan to include blackmail as a means of transitioning into the feminization or is it all happening willingly/subconciously?
 

n0b0dy

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If you are looking for feedback/ideas I would recommend going to if you didn't already also since that community is basically made for games like the one you are describing. It seems like you do not have a clear vision yet on what you want the game to become but when your demo is ready I would not mind playing it myself and give you my thoughts on it since I like femdom and humiliation especially when written well. I would probably stop playing when the m/m scenes arrive though since that's just not for me. Good luck!
 

Centrophy

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Eh, I'd play it but you'll get more love for it on tfgamessite. Seeing someone add some daz style games to that site would be a nice addition.
 

heartagram10

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Eh, I'd play it but you'll get more love for it on tfgamessite. Seeing someone add some daz style games to that site would be a nice addition.
It appears the hardcore people there are really protective of their text based adventures.

I guess I'll hold off with this project. Creating visuals at the level I want is just too time consuming, let alone creating a story worth telling. Considering the genre it would be a niche game and I can't find the right community for it at this time.
 

5ever

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Too bad, I was really looking forward to the idea of such a game with Daz visuals. Well, maybe minus the sissification.
Personally, I don't care about sissification at all, I take it if I have to to get to some relatively rare femdom(FM/FF) and bdsm content in games.

I am not sure why there is a clear lack of games with some of these genres, though. It can either be that the demand is not there (I don't believe that - there are fairly successful examples) or that there are no developers wanting to create such types of games.

Moreover it seems if someone makes a full femdom type game it is all about rape/slavery and other very dark themes, such as what darktoz does. That can be fine and there seems to be success with that (darktoz has over 1k per month on patreon), but somehow the offering for "regular" love stories but with significant consensual femdon/bdsm contents is even smaller ( I am looking at you "Ladykiller in a bind" - and that game is quite a success on steam and humblebundle store)

On the other hand, there are so many incest theme games. Sometimes it can be hard to believe in market forces.

Btw, renders looked very good.
 

heartagram10

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Too bad, I was really looking forward to the idea of such a game with Daz visuals. Well, maybe minus the sissification.
Personally, I don't care about sissification at all, I take it if I have to to get to some relatively rare femdom(FM/FF) and bdsm content in games.

I am not sure why there is a clear lack of games with some of these genres, though. It can either be that the demand is not there (I don't believe that - there are fairly successful examples) or that there are no developers wanting to create such types of games.

Moreover it seems if someone makes a full femdom type game it is all about rape/slavery and other very dark themes, such as what darktoz does. That can be fine and there seems to be success with that (darktoz has over 1k per month on patreon), but somehow the offering for "regular" love stories but with significant consensual femdon/bdsm contents is even smaller ( I am looking at you "Ladykiller in a bind" - and that game is quite a success on steam and humblebundle store)

On the other hand, there are so many incest theme games. Sometimes it can be hard to believe in market forces.

Btw, renders looked very good.
Honestly I'm not sure about the path I'd take the game. I'm just considering something around those themes and have optional content for the more niche audience (like M/M) that would work with the story but not be necessarily related to the main plot. The main story arc would involve some stuff like pegging and so forth as that would be the plot of the dominant woman you meet, but certain scenes and events could be optional.

Like in my example of the "abusive boss" - tell him to f off and things are normal, the story moves forward regardless of your choice, but if you choose to give in you might get something in return, maybe extra scenes somewhere down the line or whatever, little bits here and there for the "full story" experience (such as a bi MMF threesome that would not happen if you declined the abusive boss). That choice could also involve slightly different paths, like agreeing to be crossdressed or not which would work the same way story wise, just different renders and character texts, same goes for the encounters with the woman. It would cut the story for people who decide to skip that content, however they would have the choice to do so, but also giving others the option to enjoy that kind of content which at this level is almost non existent.

This way of dealing with various sexual preferences might be overkill, as to balance the game for those who choose to skip certain content I'd need to create different scenes, maybe not as polished or detailed but have at least something to offer if not going full out and creating multiple paths.. That's why I'd need help from a community, in terms of ideas, maybe even actual help like setting up scenes and poses which for me takes a looooooong time. I have a good GPU for pumping out renders, but setting everything up, dealing with the lighting, the camera.. then the dealing with the story.. Not something I can do alone while maintaining a full time job at least for the time being.

Hey, if anyone wants to be part of this - hit me up. Nothing concrete, but if the quality of the game would be at the level I imagine I'd go with it on Patreon. Provide the first chapter/version or whatever free for everyone and see where it goes. If someone would actually help out with stuff like scenes, models, poses and that sort of thing - I'd gladly give that person/people a share of the profits.

It's hard to build a community around a game that isn't even in production in any way, I just don't want to pump out a half-assed "game" that's just a click-n-jerk 5 minute experience. And I feel I might not be able to do make that happen without support and input from others. So, if you're reading this and are interested in any way - let me know, maybe there's life to this idea.

EDIT: Ooh and thanks for the render comment. I take some pride in them, not at the level I'd want them to be, but IMO they stand up very well against those in even the popular VNs.
 

Ataios

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My brain has great respect for your idea for a rather unconventional game.
My heart wishes you the best of luck.
My dick reacts to such themes like to cold water.
My stomach doesn't like it either.
 

DarthSeduction

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So, just based off your title I would say tentatively yes. There are a few hentai manga I've really enjoyed with these themes. I would suggest that your male model be androgynous af though. It works best for me with really Bisho characters in manga.
 

zhn

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I really love your renders.
And most of your ideas sound great, too.
But I don't like the part with forced bi and m/m.

Are there any news to the game?
 

kiteares

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I am not sure why there is a clear lack of games with some of these genres, though. It can either be that the demand is not there (I don't believe that - there are fairly successful examples) or that there are no developers wanting to create such types of games.
Could it be there is a lack of writers?
I have only read one BDSM story that I would class as good and no it was not 50 shades.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to put pen to paper, but can't get my starting point.
To the OP -
The 2 renders look very good.

If you can nail the story great, if you can't can I suggest you don't go that path. And please don't fall into the trap of mixing up abuse ("abusive boss") with BDSM, this issue with so many stories in this genre. Remember safe, sane and consenual.

I personally don't like the femdom tag, in my experience there are just as many Dommes as Doms. That said the same balance cannot be said for subs. I would prefer, like the protagonist tag - female/male Dominant, though I do recognise that femdom as a genre has evolved over the past few years. Mini-rant over, another trap not to fall into, not all Dommes are hardarse, uncompromising, bitches.

Forced bi? Sorry, forced anything sexual is a least bordering on rape and not my thing. And I can't say I've ever been interested in sissification, though I am willing to keep an open mind on that part.

Good luck with your project, I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with.

Like in my example of the "abusive boss" - tell him to f off and things are normal, the story moves forward regardless of your choice, but if you choose to give in you might get something in return
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kukaporn

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i like forced bi, or rape. in fact i love it. there are very few forced bi games (bi as in male to male) so it definitely could be interesting. people who don't like rape and forced sex are very vocal about their preferences but i don't think they are the majority, so you definitely will have an audicence for it especially since the competition is low as there are few games like that.