Others Aurelia [v0.31] [Mirthal]
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- Feb 4, 2017
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Imagine being so assmad as to accuse someone of being a scammer. It really shows what you think of other people, and what you would be doing in their shoes.
- Apr 26, 2018
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Unfortunately for you I am not a reasonable person.
Mirthal, I'm sorry that I pissed you off with my comments today. I know it's annoying to see people like me making comments about you not finishing the game because of Patreon money. If it's any consolation, I did review Aurelia 5/5 here, and I paid several months to your Patreon, and I'm always recommending Aurelia everywhere as I think it's a great game. So I'm not a hater or troll who is just whining from the sidelines, I'm a huge fan of the game who is disappointed after seeing a mountain of dungeon content and minigames instead of finishing the main plotline.
You keep satirically using words like "GREEDY", while I had no intention of attacking your character. The way I see it, you're creating and selling games - it's a business, and there's nothing wrong with making money. I genuinely think that the Patreon model is incentivizing the prolonged development for many games, Aurelia included ("prolonged" in negative connotation here, as opposed to actually finishing the games). That's a flaw of the system, not a character flaw of game developers. If I was personally earning $10k per month on Patreon for a single-project Patreon account, I would definitely try to find ways to prolong the development, and I don't consider myself to be an evil or greedy person.
You posted some numbers with the implication that the way to maximize revenue would be to release the game on Steam as soon as possible. You made it sound like the Steam revenue stream will shrink or disappear if the Patreon development is prolonged. That's not going to happen. If Aurelia stays longer in Patreon development, then the Steam revenue will simply come later. That Steam money is not gonna evaporate into thin air, you just get it later. So it seems to me that the way to maximize revenue would be to prolong development to collect Patreon money, while polishing the game such that it will ensure great reviews on Steam upon release, and finally, release the game on Steam as late as possible. (I don't pretend to know exactly what is the optimal time point to finish the game for maximizing revenue. Of course there are many factors are at play, like how much the game is gaining or losing interest across time, when is the game fully polished to have great reviews on Steam, etc. The optimal timepoint is not going to be "delay release indefinitely", I'm not claiming that.)
I would just love to see Aurelia finished, I didn't want to bash on you or anything like that. You've said that you're focusing on the important stuff now, and that's great to hear. And if that truly was the case then perhaps my comments were entirely unwarranted. Sorry to have pissed you off like this, and sad to see this was enough to get me banned from your Discord. I'm just gonna sit on the sidelines and stop commenting on Aurelia altogether, I don't wanna be a thorn at your side. I wish you all the best and I'm planning to buy the game when it's finished.
You keep satirically using words like "GREEDY", while I had no intention of attacking your character. The way I see it, you're creating and selling games - it's a business, and there's nothing wrong with making money. I genuinely think that the Patreon model is incentivizing the prolonged development for many games, Aurelia included ("prolonged" in negative connotation here, as opposed to actually finishing the games). That's a flaw of the system, not a character flaw of game developers. If I was personally earning $10k per month on Patreon for a single-project Patreon account, I would definitely try to find ways to prolong the development, and I don't consider myself to be an evil or greedy person.
You posted some numbers with the implication that the way to maximize revenue would be to release the game on Steam as soon as possible. You made it sound like the Steam revenue stream will shrink or disappear if the Patreon development is prolonged. That's not going to happen. If Aurelia stays longer in Patreon development, then the Steam revenue will simply come later. That Steam money is not gonna evaporate into thin air, you just get it later. So it seems to me that the way to maximize revenue would be to prolong development to collect Patreon money, while polishing the game such that it will ensure great reviews on Steam upon release, and finally, release the game on Steam as late as possible. (I don't pretend to know exactly what is the optimal time point to finish the game for maximizing revenue. Of course there are many factors are at play, like how much the game is gaining or losing interest across time, when is the game fully polished to have great reviews on Steam, etc. The optimal timepoint is not going to be "delay release indefinitely", I'm not claiming that.)
I would just love to see Aurelia finished, I didn't want to bash on you or anything like that. You've said that you're focusing on the important stuff now, and that's great to hear. And if that truly was the case then perhaps my comments were entirely unwarranted. Sorry to have pissed you off like this, and sad to see this was enough to get me banned from your Discord. I'm just gonna sit on the sidelines and stop commenting on Aurelia altogether, I don't wanna be a thorn at your side. I wish you all the best and I'm planning to buy the game when it's finished.
- Apr 26, 2018
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Don't listen to the haters Mirthal. This is by far one of the greatest adult games ever made. That holds true with even the current content, let alone the final release. I can't wait to see what's next after 1.0.
- Aug 12, 2018
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all i can say is i can't believe how beautiful these pics look
i hope whatever you do next will retain the pixel art even if it's a different setting
- Apr 26, 2018
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There will certainly be more pixel-art stuff coming from us, but if I can I'll try to have some other projects with different styles.
I would at the very least post your twitter posts to your Patreon or something to make it look more lively, it makes it look like the project has been dead since October and I think that's where all the milking comments come from, you could also have a lot more supporters that way. This is the first time I have seen this game and I thought it was dead because the Patreon is the first thing I click on. Also, I know you didn't intend it, but this long post makes it look like you couldn't care less about your supporters since they only give you 10k compared to other people making more on steam rather than the fact that you are just working hard on a final release, just a heads up.
Edit: Also good luck on the full release, its great to see a game actually finish on this site haha.
- Apr 26, 2018
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Random comments making shit up are inevitable and I've received them over the years irrelevantly of how much content I put out.
Trying to "please" or "minimize" assholes is pointless because... Well, they are assholes. They don't care about reasoning. They just want to throw shit because they know there is no consequence and makes them feel powerful.
Which is why I only really answer if I think I can have fun (and make others have fun) by mocking them.
And boy, do I have a lot of fun sometimes.
As I said, if someone reads my post in such bad faith that after me saying:
"Patreon doesn't give that much money compared to Steam, so the whole elongating release isn't as lucrative as people think"
they think I said:
"HAHAHAHA, I REALLY HATE MY PATREON SUPPORTERS"
What I'm even supposed to do at that point? I could say whatever and they'll just make up in their mind some ludicrous bullshit like me "hoarding content in a HDD", it is a pointless endeavor to try to please those individuals.
- Feb 22, 2023
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It is saying app is not compatible with device android 12 ,Is there a 64 bit version available?Or a fix for it
- Mar 2, 2018
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Personally, I think that completing game and do full release in Steam is a great thing to do. Without bullshit like Episode 1, Early Access etc...
I can't support you on Patreon, but gladly will buy finished game in Steam. P.S. don't forget Cloud Saves.
They are not, the .30 Extra is a patreon build and has the extra scenes behind that wall, the .31 is a public build and doesn't include those scenes.