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Nenhum deles está abandonado nem seria essa a razão

# None of them is abandoned nor is that the reason for the constant stranding...

Bad reviews are due to his lies (milking), laziness, constant ghosting and piling up of cliffhangers/side stories without finishing the old ones... It always felt abandoned, right from the beginning and fans ( normal ones, not the docile benders ) don't like it and are vocal about it.

It's not because of all the bashing, not even because of Patreon strictness. Who'd leave behind such a cash cow? Neither does RA or Zip. Neither will they. But unfortunately they've similar shortcomings ( they're the one and the same by the way :ROFLMAO: ). Too much criticism? Perhaps but they had it coming, so...
It's pretty rare where I see criticism of Rainces that seems undeserved. More often than not, I see praise that seems unwarranted. The game does have some stuff going for it, although a good part of that was just in how vague things were. We could mentally fill in the gaps in our head, and see what we wanted or hoped to see. But it's not that good of a game. It had promise, but Rainces kept promising and not delivering, until finally he delivered somewhat in the latest update which pleased some, displeased others, and also resulted in them getting kicked off of Patreon. When I see people call this a masterpiece, or the most realistic corruption game out there, I'm honestly taken aback, because it's neither of those, and quite a bit removed from either. But it seems to be the trend for some time now for people either to rate something lower or highly, with no middle ground. Personally, I'd give the game a 4/10, being generous a bit because I do like the models and the general premise of the game. And I do keep coming back to this game, despite not getting rewarded for my patience.
 

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It's pretty rare where I see criticism of Rainces that seems undeserved. More often than not, I see praise that seems unwarranted. The game does have some stuff going for it, although a good part of that was just in how vague things were. We could mentally fill in the gaps in our head, and see what we wanted or hoped to see. But it's not that good of a game. It had promise, but Rainces kept promising and not delivering, until finally he delivered somewhat in the latest update which pleased some, displeased others, and also resulted in them getting kicked off of Patreon. When I see people call this a masterpiece, or the most realistic corruption game out there, I'm honestly taken aback, because it's neither of those, and quite a bit removed from either. But it seems to be the trend for some time now for people either to rate something lower or highly, with no middle ground. Personally, I'd give the game a 4/10, being generous a bit because I do like the models and the general premise of the game. And I do keep coming back to this game, despite not getting rewarded for my patience.

Sim mas penso que estás a ser também um pouco injusto... (o problema nunca foi a qualidade, merece mais que 4/10)


# Yeah I agree with most of that but not all. You're being a bit unfair imo. The game was (and is) a tremendous success, despite all those issues, right from the beginning, and for good reasons.

Its slow burning and dry humping in a set up where incest was completely out of reach and outrageous, as it should, was awesome (still not new/unique). But making that the core and not another warm up gimmick to a fuckfest (big brother...) was really a breath of fresh hair ("realistic"). That, the childish MC attempts and the hot female models made up a winning formula imo. ( The problem was never the game but the devs. )

Never less than 7/10 (for me 9/10). You can always claim it was a fluke, but never an overrated peace of sh*t (4/10)...

Yes, the latest turn of events was a bit off, the gloomy update content ( I liked it but it'd never please the masses - his choice ) and the funding accounts shut down were serious blows but were never its main problem: deliberate stranding of the game.
 

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Sim mas penso que estás a ser também um pouco injusto... (o problema nunca foi a qualidade, merece mais que 4/10)


# Yeah I agree with most of that but not all. You're being a bit unfair imo. The game was (and is) a tremendous success, despite all those issues, right from the beginning, and for good reasons.

Its slow burning and dry humping in a set up where incest was completely out of reach and outrageous, as it should, was awesome (still not new/unique). But making that the core and not another warm up gimmick to a fuckfest (big brother...) was really a breath of fresh hair ("realistic"). That, the childish MC attempts and the hot female models made up a winning formula imo. ( The problem was never the game but the devs. )

Never less than 7/10 (for me 9/10). You can always claim it was a fluke, but never an overrated peace of sh*t (4/10)...

Yes, the latest turn of events was a bit off, the gloomy update content ( I liked it but it'd never please the masses - his choice ) and the funding accounts shut down were serious blows but were never its main problem: deliberate stranding of the game.
Ranking it higher than a four wouldn't make sense for me, because most of the similar games I play or have played are objectively much better. They have better interfaces, better dialogue... better everything. Yes, it's a success, but success does not necessarily equate with quality. I don't think Rainces was going for quality, either, but money. Their approach to writing this game has been to do the bare minimum to keep their money flow going, like the student that aims for "C" grades just to pass the class even though they could do better.

You yourself give a list of things wrong with the game, but then you give it a 9/10? All of those negatives put together only bring it down one point? Just individual things like the grind, the resetting of progress, the bad writing and constant typos each cost it at least a point in my ranking, and that's not even talking about the bugs or poor interface. Are you truly ranking it on how good a game it is objectively, or how much you like it? If it's the second, then we're comparing apples to oranges, and the disparity makes sense.

As always, good to see you post here and get your opinion, or to debate back and forth over our different although sometimes overlapping views.
 
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Maybe you could give us an example of some "of the similar games I play or have played are objectively much better. They have better interfaces, better dialogue... better everything" ? I don't have a single one in my mind.
 
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Ranking it higher than a four wouldn't make sense for me, because most of the similar games I play or have played are objectively much better. They have better interfaces, better dialogue... better everything. Yes, it's a success, but success does not necessarily equate with quality. I don't think Rainces was going for quality, either, but money. Their approach to writing this game has been to do the bare minimum to keep their money flow going, like the student that aims for "C" grades just to pass the class even though they could do better.

You yourself give a list of things wrong with the game, but then you give it a 9/10? All of those negatives put together only bring it down one point? Just individual things like the grind, the resetting of progress, the bad writing and constant typos each cost it at least a point in my ranking, and that's not even talking about the bugs or poor interface. Are you truly ranking it on how good a game it is objectively, or how much you like it? If it's the second, then we're comparing apples to oranges, and the disparity makes sense.

As always, good to see you post here and get your opinion, or to debate back and forth over our different although sometimes overlapping views.
Como te disse, concordo com quase tudo mas...

# Yeah it's overlapping, I do agree with most you've written. It has a lot of flaws sure, it falls short in so many ways if you run every single component down separately. But unlike Zip (or you), I don't give a damn about it. I really enjoy it, I know why I enjoy it (its strengths) and that's all that matters to me. (They all do it for the money...)

So yeah I still rate it 9/10 because I like it, it's not benchmark. I guess you enjoy detail and tidiness in story unfolding (cup half empty), I enjoy its emotion despite the mess (cup half full). And this game is quite unique that way. There are a few really high quality games out there but I don't even bother trying. Why bother...?! I've better things to do. (I'm getting old...) This is the only one that still draws me in and that's all the quality I need.

( I've always appreciated our talks - your sharpness and language skills (y))
 
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Maybe you could give us an example of some "of the similar games I play or have played are objectively much better. They have better interfaces, better dialogue... better everything" ? I don't have a single one in my mind.
I did mention some in an earlier draft of the message, but it was getting a bit wordy so, I cut them out. Here's a semi-random list off the top of my head:

Man of the House
Sisterly Lust
Big Brother (yeah, it turned into a bit of a fuckfest, but only after fans demanded more sex after too much blueballing)
Midlife Crisis
The Guardian
Dating my Daughter (although there are some things I really hate about that game as well)

I could go on for a bit. I'm not saying all of these are games I necessarily love or that they're perfect. For some of them, I dislike or hate certain aspects. Some have big flaws. But there is a ton more effort put into each of them, the writing is better both in a technical and general sense, and I'd say objectively on most or all levels they outrank BBS. In fact, I have trouble thinking of games that are worse than BBS because they are by their nature forgettable, although they definitely exist. We're also talking about the realm of incest games here, where "bad" is often synonymous with the genre. There's stuff to pick apart about with all of these, and I'm sure some will. Although that's kind of the point. No game is perfect, yet BBS gets a lot of perfect scores and rave reviews from people that seem divorced from reality. It's like a movie that is bad or mediocre that people keep calling a "masterpiece" because it caters to their interests or beliefs, and they won't tolerate any dissension. I'm thinking stuff like the last Star Wars movie, or just about anything from Zack Snyder as just two examples.

Como te disse, concordo com quase tudo mas...

# Yeah it's overlapping, I do agree with most you've written. It has a lot of flaws sure, it falls short in so many ways if you run every single component down separately. But unlike Zip (or you), I don't give a damn about it. I really enjoy it, I know why I enjoy it (its strengths) and that's all that matters to me. (They all do it for the money...)

So yeah I still rate it 9/10 because I like it, it's not benchmark. I guess you enjoy detail and tidiness in story unfolding (cup half empty), I enjoy its emotion despite the mess (cup half full). And this game is quite unique that way. There are a few really high quality games out there but I don't even bother trying. Why bother...?! I've better things to do. (I'm getting old...) This is the only one that still draws me in and that's all the quality I need.

( I've always appreciated our talks - your sharpness and language skills (y))
Fair enough. I have no issue if someone loves a game. I love plenty of bad movies, bad games, or whatever. You like what you like. BBS has given me some 9/10 moments, although they've been few and far between. Which is maybe why they ranked a 9/10 when they did happen? It's hard to say. I just wish the game were more consistent and that Rainces would spend more time raising the quality level of the game, and bringing in help as needed to punch up the writing. Better dialogue alone would probably raise my score 2-3 points.
 
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(...) I love plenty of bad movies, bad games, or whatever. You like what you like. BBS has given me some 9/10 moments, although (...)
Não é só gostar, é achar bom...

# It's not a matter of liking it despite being bad. Not at all. I really think it's awesome despite its issues. I do like bad stuff just for a laugh but this is not the case.

The difference between you and me is just what we focus on (writing/plot in a porn game? Always nice but not that important. Immersion/enjoyment? Paramount). The good stuff (underlined), that may not be the same for you and me, make it totally worth it. All the rest is irrelevant.

The best out there, hands down.
 
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