So even without accounting for any other revenue streams or commissions or other projects Kom can pay himself and 4 others ~1k a month to work on the game. Sounds like we should expect at least a week's worth of work from a team of 5 every month then. What we are seeing is nowhere close to that. even the modding tools and tweaks do not add up to anything close to that. Kom had a few levels already sketched out for act 1 and 2 over a year ago, and if he would have kept the same pace he was going in the beginning we'd probably have a finished game right now.
Snowsexxx32
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Not even close. I wouldn't expect to see a team put in a full week a month for $1000 each, remember $1k a week is bottom of the barrel pay for an entry level artist, and you aren't getting a week out of a competent dev for that. Maybe I just have low expectation when I see an artist acting as a dev, and also understand that early production work always goes faster than work once you've gotten going. Pirate Software has a few good explanations of why you see this from devs, but you could just look at the abandoned projects bin to see it.
I don't know though, I wouldn't be surprised if internally they're just putting effort into whatever keeps people engaged and them afloat. They list 7 contributors on the site, and list their jobs as $20/hr part time, you can make that by taking a job not helping customers at home depot.
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LupuseDei26
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Hello, tuning in for my bi-yearly progress update. Oh, there's hold notes now? Wow.
UnrealEyes
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It looks good, congrats
(It'll probably would cost 1 year ( $100/month (the highest tier)) on Bunfan/Komdog patreon if animation like that would be made by Kom (you know, BB progress are like that), lol)
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Seems like you are a little lost. 1000 a week for a stay at home job for a super small team like this (easy entry level) This is a great job to add to a portfolio. There are plenty of states where 20 dollars an hour is unobtainable for entry level saying 20/hr for home depot is telling. Hell this could be a job you can get even if you don't live in a first world country. I don't care if you don't think it's worth a week of work. the vast majority could see this as fair to expect a week of work for 1k.
if kom is banking >5k on the PATREON ALONE and paying $20/hr shouldn't we be seeing a LOT more work being done than what has been shown?
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Snowsexxx32
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Yeah, telling that I know home depot's entry level positions are 15-24/hr, their corp minimum is 15, and that you probably don't see the upper end of that outside mid-size cities, costal markets, and areas they have to compete with other local industry, but yeah, there are a few states without mid size cities or oil fields that probably hold entry level at their minimum.
What do you think happens if he's banking the the $5k and paying the other people $20/hr. That would pay the rest of the currently listed team for a week and leave him with $200. If everyone's paid the same, then they're able to cover 250 hours a month.
So to your question, "shouldn't we be seeing a LOT more work being done than what's shown?" Naw, we *could* expect 1.5 peoples worth of work a month, if that's what you think you get when you contribute to patreon, but that isn't what they commit to you getting if you're a patron anyway.
I do actually see work being done when trying to poke at the game itself and the mod tools. While it seems reasonable to me, even though I don't have any behind the scenes access (curious what the people actually paying for that think). It seems like many just have the expectation that they crank out animation content so they can burn through it using an autoplay script.
The only problem I'd expect right now is the gap between the state that bbcharter was left in and the current state of the in game editor. Plenty of new things added that just aren't really usable for someone trying to use the tools for mod creation at the moment, which was their lifeline for a bit but I don't know how people create mods in the current version.
BBcharter works better, but it appears to not be maintained currently, so it looks like the most effective workflow for creating a level right now is to frame it out in charter, and then make additional changes using the in game editor, or modify the files directly. I'm curious what others are doing for this currently.
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We'll have to see if it even happens. Anyway,
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This new main animator might just save this game from development hell
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Hm, at least Jasmine will have some useful interaction (player finally taking some revenge that he need) instead of Jasmine only interaction being disrespecting the player and you only boop her nose (not her breasts)
Well, i hope so.
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SpiderHole
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Just use my guide here, that was posted like 5 messages above you... ^^
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