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dalli_x

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Well i have J&M in three different playthroughs now... equal, josy favor and maya favor... but did many more, though i deleted them... i made a dik and neutral run too for example... but they didnt felt good.

The equal path does not really exist, at least at this point... No matter what you do, you will have some RP more for maya or Josy, and who ever does have more, will get the date-scene (aka ILY scene) in ep 11, you cant avoid that. I have made a perfect equal run, and still got the scene with Maya. Though you have the choice to dont say ILY back, but it doesnt change the fact that you will get the date, and she will tell it the MC.

MAYBE ep12 will make the equal path possible again, so the other girl will get a ILY scene too... to even out things. But it doesnt look like it. At this point Josy and Maya are pretty much seperated, and i dont see how this will change and that all three will be happy together...

The scene with Neil was more than a hint to that "one will be getting hurt"... its basically a promise.

Iam convinced, there will never be a throuple in the end.

To be on the "safe" side for all playthroughs... just play a J&M playthrough until episode 5, the real branching starts at the end of episode 5 overall. After the party when you either can go with Maya or Josy... thats the first real heavy branching choice...

In my equal playthrough i go with Josy in ep 5 and later in ep 7 i visit Maya... the ep 7 scene with Maya is soooo wholesome, and grants you the possibilty to creampie her in episode 8. She is more open in the hot tub threesome too if you visited her in episode 7. For Josy there are no changes if you dont visit her in EP7... so yeah... ep5 Josy, and ep 7 maya is the best for an equal run in my opinion... and you will get in the end of the halloween episode the dialoge that they are all equaly experienced...

In ep10 if you are on an equal path, the branches will be set again to "seperate" them... cause you can either get an extra scene with maya OR Josy, not both.

So if you dont want to create three different playthroughs starting with episode 5.... you can just make an equal run until episode 10 too, and go from there in favor to either Josy or Maya. Most heavy branching points at that point are the choice if you either get the maya or Josy scene in ep 10, and afterwards if you got the contract for Maya or not. If you are equal until ep 10, its still very easy to turn the route into favor Josy or Maya without having to count each Relationshippoints... But no matter what you do, after episode 10 one girl will have more points than the other... no matter what.

*Edit* oh and chick is the best for Josy and Maya... there are no extra dik or neutral options in the choices (especially during lewd scenes), but as a chick you get some. Its not much, but at least something (i like the chick option with maya in ep 7 very much... thats love making)... Though there are some funny scenes as a Dik with Josy, but only 2 or 3 stillrenders in total. Not really worth it. As neutral you dont have anything "positive" in a J&M playthrough, you miss out on the chick scenes, and dont get DIK scenes either... you basically get nothing extra as neutral... neutral is a waste of time for a J&M playthrough. Though many think its the most "natural" MC... but i dont think so... more like... shizo. Cause you have to make choices to stay neutral that dont fit each other.
The "I love you" scene from Episode 11 is decided at the beginning of Episode 7 if Josy and Maya are treated equally. At least, that's how it works for me. If the MC calms Maya down, she gets the scene in Episode 11, and vice versa for Josy. You should pay attention to DPC's hints in the game because before the decision at the beginning of Episode 7, we see a poster telling us to save our progress. So, create a save file.

Example of another DPC hint: The same applies to something Tommy said to the MC in Episode 4. He should think outside the box. How many will have forgotten that line? But in Episode 11, the MC opens the box, and it's empty. But later, Sally's mask is lying right next to the box. Think outside the box.

We decide on the three-way relationship in Episode 4: no throuple, friendship, or romance. This decision will influence solo routes and the three-way relationship.

The thing with Neil will probably be resolved in Episode 12. Maya asked the MC if he'd explained it to Neil correctly, and the idiot hadn't, because he hadn't told Neil a crucial detail. Therefore, I strongly suspect this is how Christmas will play out. Josy will celebrate with her mother, Iris, Derek will be with Helen and Patrick, and Maya will be with the MC and Neil. Why? Neil was alone for Thanksgiving, and this will be balanced out at Christmas. Maya will tell Neil about the missing detail. What would that be?

That Maya and Josy were already in a relationship before they even met the MC. The MC hadn't told Neil this. Neil's biggest fear was that everyone would feel the same way the MC did. Josy only told Maya this so that she wouldn't reflexively tell her she loved Maya anymore. But Josy didn't say it so that she wouldn't love Maya anymore. Remember Episode 4? Josy said that so she wouldn't show it to Maya lately (EP11), but also so that deep down she would never stop loving Maya (EP12). And another hint from DPC. EP4 already shows us what's to come.
 

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Why should the relationship end? Just because Josy suffers from "home blindness"?

Josy herself said at the end of the conversation that she wants to, so that their love can blossom again. Therefore, Josy and Maya will continue to work on their relationship.
They have said that before though and didn't do the work aka ep8. They will try but as the couch scene shows it going to fail again. Could there be a path where it save sure but feels like a don't count on it
.... OMJ what I have done another 3 day fight isn't needed :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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The "I love you" scene from Episode 11 is decided at the beginning of Episode 7 if Josy and Maya are treated equally. At least, that's how it works for me. If the MC calms Maya down, she gets the scene in Episode 11, and vice versa for Josy. You should pay attention to DPC's hints in the game because before the decision at the beginning of Episode 7, we see a poster telling us to save our progress. So, create a save file.
That's isn't how it works at all, it is based on who's scenes you have more of, if it within one then it goes to RP but it got nothing to do with you side with in ep7
 

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They have said that before though and didn't do the work aka ep8. They will try but as the couch scene shows it going to fail again. Could there be a path where it save sure but feels like a don't count on it
.... OMJ what I have done another 3 day fight isn't needed :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Nah, not worth it, we all know you gonna be just a bitch, and run to moderators to report, when you lose the argument . . . . :whistle:
 

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Nah, not worth it, we all know you gonna be just a bitch, and run to moderators to report, when you lose the argument . . . . :whistle:
i have only reported one person ever that i can remember, this is funny AF when you just got into a argument reporting someone :cool:
 

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They have said that before though and didn't do the work aka ep8. They will try but as the couch scene shows it going to fail again. Could there be a path where it save sure but feels like a don't count on it
.... OMJ what I have done another 3 day fight isn't needed :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
What did they say in Episode 8? Maya clearly said that things weren't perfect yet and that they still needed to work on them. That's exactly what they do in Episode 11. Only this time it's the other way around. Maya assures Josy of her support, and Josy is visibly relieved when she hears this from Maya. Why? I strongly suspect it's because Josy saw something in Episode 11 and is therefore confused about Maya.

We know it's so Josy is afraid of losing Maya and/or the MC. What could have scared Josy so much in Episode 11? Josy was still at the HOTs house when Maya and Sage hugged very intimately. What if Josy saw that? Then there's the whole situation with Oscar and her self-doubt and mediocrity nonsense. If the MC then told Maya he loved her, this is what will happen: Josy leaves college. How do I know this?
... DPC once wrote about interludes, saying he wanted to show us a few things, and he wasn't just referring to Zoey. What was Bret and Emma's biggest problem? Before Emma went to Las Vegas, they didn't tell each other they loved each other; it wasn't until much later that Emma confessed her love for Bret. Now, substitute the MC for Bret and Josy for Emma.

I could go on. For example, I'm assuming a temporary break in the three-way relationship. Why? In Episode 10, Josy told the MC that micro-breaks are good for him. To me, that sounds like a temporary separation with a later reconciliation.

Even Jamie might later want to show the MC how to plant everblooming perennials. Everblooming. Doesn't Josy also say to Maya that she wants to, so that her love will bloom again? Well, maybe the MC can plant perennials then.
That's isn't how it works at all, it is based on who's scenes you have more of, if it within one then it goes to RP but it got nothing to do with you side with in ep7
Read carefully. I wrote "so that it's like that for me," and it is. Why? I have a very balanced game between Josy and Maya. At the end of Episode 11, Maya is only ahead by 4 points, and I've already had the scene with Josy. If I want the scene with Maya, I have to choose Maya in Episode 7. It's that simple.
 

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What did they say in Episode 8? Maya clearly said that things weren't perfect yet and that they still needed to work on them. That's exactly what they do in Episode 11. Only this time it's the other way around. Maya assures Josy of her support, and Josy is visibly relieved when she hears this from Maya. Why? I strongly suspect it's because Josy saw something in Episode 11 and is therefore confused about Maya.

We know it's so Josy is afraid of losing Maya and/or the MC. What could have scared Josy so much in Episode 11? Josy was still at the HOTs house when Maya and Sage hugged very intimately. What if Josy saw that? Then there's the whole situation with Oscar and her self-doubt and mediocrity nonsense. If the MC then told Maya he loved her, this is what will happen: Josy leaves college. How do I know this?
... DPC once wrote about interludes, saying he wanted to show us a few things, and he wasn't just referring to Zoey. What was Bret and Emma's biggest problem? Before Emma went to Las Vegas, they didn't tell each other they loved each other; it wasn't until much later that Emma confessed her love for Bret. Now, substitute the MC for Bret and Josy for Emma.

I could go on. For example, I'm assuming a temporary break in the three-way relationship. Why? In Episode 10, Josy told the MC that micro-breaks are good for him. To me, that sounds like a temporary separation with a later reconciliation.

Even Jamie might later want to show the MC how to plant everblooming perennials. Everblooming. Doesn't Josy also say to Maya that she wants to, so that her love will bloom again? Well, maybe the MC can plant perennials then.

Read carefully. I wrote "so that it's like that for me," and it is. Why? I have a very balanced game between Josy and Maya. At the end of Episode 11, Maya is only ahead by 4 points, and I've already had the scene with Josy. If I want the scene with Maya, I have to choose Maya in Episode 7. It's that simple.
In ep8 they said they had a lot of work to do and would do it but we know they didn't do the work because ep10 and most clearly 11, you don' tell someone your not sure why you can't say if you love them if they was putting in the work. Because of how getting the Josy or Maya date works you can no longer be balance someone has to have more it can be very close but one of them will be ahead. you can check the walkthrough there very clear checks if Maya wins you have to have 41 rp for maya love and if Josy wins you need 36 rp for Josy love.
 
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In ep8 they said they had a lot of work to do and would do it but we know they didn't do the work because ep10 and most clearly 11, you don' tell someone your not sure why you can't say if you love them if they was putting in the work. Because of how getting the Josy or Maya date works you can no longer be balance someone has to have more it can be very close but one of them will be ahead. you can check the walkthrough there very clear checks if Maya wins you have to have 41 rp for maya love and if Josy wins you need 36 rp for Josy love.
Well, then Josy has caught up with Maya. For me, that point came in Episode 11, Maya was 54% to Josy 50%, even though my main character was Josy.

Darkwen, you're missing something. Josy still loves Maya, but she only wants one thing from Maya. Josy has put her own needs aside all this time out of love for Maya. Josy says so herself. What Josy has done is something you only do for someone you love. Now Josy has reached a point where she needs support. Because Maya has already told Josy that she needs to take care of her, Josy realizes that it's because Maya loves her, and that's what Josy needs.

Episode 2 tells us this. Josy clearly says that she needs to feel loved more than anything else. Maya will take care of Josy because Maya loves Josy. This will rekindle the love between them. The only one who can mess it up is the MC, because he also has to give them both the time they need.

In EP7, we could choose whether the MC went to Maya or Josy. We had this choice again in EP10. In EP12, we'll get another such choice. For me, it's like this: EP7 Maya, EP10 Josy, and in EP12 neither of them. My MC will give them the time they need.
 
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Well i have J&M in three different playthroughs now... equal, josy favor and maya favor... but did many more, though i deleted them... i made a dik and neutral run too for example... but they didnt felt good.

The equal path does not really exist, at least at this point... No matter what you do, you will have some RP more for maya or Josy, and who ever does have more, will get the date-scene (aka ILY scene) in ep 11, you cant avoid that. I have made a perfect equal run, and still got the scene with Maya. Though you have the choice to dont say ILY back, but it doesnt change the fact that you will get the date, and she will tell it the MC.

MAYBE ep12 will make the equal path possible again, so the other girl will get a ILY scene too... to even out things. But it doesnt look like it. At this point Josy and Maya are pretty much seperated, and i dont see how this will change and that all three will be happy together...

The scene with Neil was more than a hint to that "one will be getting hurt"... its basically a promise.

Iam convinced, there will never be a throuple in the end.

To be on the "safe" side for all playthroughs... just play a J&M playthrough until episode 5, the real branching starts at the end of episode 5 overall. After the party when you either can go with Maya or Josy... thats the first real heavy branching choice...

In my equal playthrough i go with Josy in ep 5 and later in ep 7 i visit Maya... the ep 7 scene with Maya is soooo wholesome, and grants you the possibilty to creampie her in episode 8. She is more open in the hot tub threesome too if you visited her in episode 7. For Josy there are no changes if you dont visit her in EP7... so yeah... ep5 Josy, and ep 7 maya is the best for an equal run in my opinion... and you will get in the end of the halloween episode the dialoge that they are all equaly experienced...

In ep10 if you are on an equal path, the branches will be set again to "seperate" them... cause you can either get an extra scene with maya OR Josy, not both.

So if you dont want to create three different playthroughs starting with episode 5.... you can just make an equal run until episode 10 too, and go from there in favor to either Josy or Maya. Most heavy branching points at that point are the choice if you either get the maya or Josy scene in ep 10, and afterwards if you got the contract for Maya or not. If you are equal until ep 10, its still very easy to turn the route into favor Josy or Maya without having to count each Relationshippoints... But no matter what you do, after episode 10 one girl will have more points than the other... no matter what.

*Edit* oh and chick is the best for Josy and Maya... there are no extra dik or neutral options in the choices (especially during lewd scenes), but as a chick you get some. Its not much, but at least something (i like the chick option with maya in ep 7 very much... thats love making)... Though there are some funny scenes as a Dik with Josy, but only 2 or 3 stillrenders in total. Not really worth it. As neutral you dont have anything "positive" in a J&M playthrough, you miss out on the chick scenes, and dont get DIK scenes either... you basically get nothing extra as neutral... neutral is a waste of time for a J&M playthrough. Though many think its the most "natural" MC... but i dont think so... more like... shizo. Cause you have to make choices to stay neutral that dont fit each other.
I think you can feel in the story that Josy and Maya simply do not work together. Since when I'm outside of their path and Josy and Maya are actually a couple, they have little fights and disagreements and overall there's a sentiment that they're just not happy with each other
 
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