so incest talks are back I see
can't say I'm missing any of those "Mom Bella" or "Aunt Jill" theories
can't say I'm missing any of those "Mom Bella" or "Aunt Jill" theories
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Understandable and forgivable, yes of course. The problem is people claiming she did nothing wrong. Even when she admits she fucked up multiple times and asks for another chance. Every character in the game fucks up something. It all comes down to the fact that they fucked up and if you are willing to forgive them and accept their mistakes or not. Downright claiming they are innocent is... Hypocritical to cover it mildly.
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Right, especially as we have canonical proof of who the MC's mother is
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At 4344 pages I'm sure this isn't the first time this has come up up but what if that picture found in Jill's room is of her best friend from from childhood with her mother (the friend's, not Jill's)? Maybe a friend who was bullied in childhood and commited suicide because of it. It's long been assumed that Jill was the one who was bullied and that's why she's so protective of the MC (and has the campaign brochure in her room) but, to me, it makes more sense if the victim was someone she knew and was unable to protect.
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The sooner we know about Bella's past and the MC's Mother's family name the better. Getting really tired of seeing the pointless "iNcEsT iS pOsSiBlE" debates cropping up all the time. 
True we literally have no idea what MC last name is, and we don’t event know if he has a last name but when Bella said Jill was a Royce, she got kinda scared for a bit. Like MC knew something about the Royce family. And when MC and Jill went on a date, she didn’t want him to know about her familyThe sooner we know about Bella's past and the MC's Mother's family name the better. Getting really tired of seeing the pointless "iNcEsT iS pOsSiBlE" debates cropping up all the time.
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Because Jill doesn't want the guy she's interested in to date her for money or power that the name Royce has. MC doesn't know that she's a Royce and that's why she reacted that way when Bella said she is a Royce.
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Good grief.
Jill didn't want him to know want him because she was simply enjoying the fact that he didn't. All her life the pressure and prestige of her name has followed her and people have so often only gotten close to her because of her name and status, and not because of her. The MC didn't know who she was, let alone anything about the Royce family, and he treated her like a regular human being and not as an access point to high society and privilege, and she was likely worried that him knowing might change how he sees her and was probably hoping they'd get to know each other better before telling him.
None of this had anything to do with them being possibly related because A) how would she know, B) how would he know, and C) it's not going to happen. Period.
Holy shit I completely forgot, I feel so fucking stupidGood grief.
Jill didn't want him to know want him because she was simply enjoying the fact that he didn't. All her life the pressure and prestige of her name has followed her and people have so often only gotten close to her because of her name and status, and not because of her. The MC didn't know who she was, let alone anything about the Royce family, and he treated her like a regular human being and not as an access point to high society and privilege, and she was likely worried that him knowing might change how he sees her and was probably hoping they'd get to know each other better before telling him.
None of this had anything to do with them being possibly related because A) how would she know, B) how would he know, and C) it's not going to happen. Period.
A lie of omission, that's true, but not of the same importance.
Josy's was about her girlfriend being in B&R, which is relevant to their relationship.
Beside is Jill really lying ?
I mean they are talking about her family, she herself brought the subject up, then she awkwardly change the conversation to another direction.
Unlike Josy who didn't bring up the info at all and stayed away from it.
The relationship is different too.
With Jill, it's their first date, to get to know each other, it's normal, expected even, that some things will be left unsaid because they don't know each other that much.
With Josy, they are kinda romantically/ sexually involved in a serious way. No THAT serious but there are lots of strings attached.
So you can't say " much like some other female made, who continually gets slated for it...." because the context is totally different.
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I could give the real reason why people defend Jill's lie of ommision and not Maya's....but I'd probably be kicked off the thread and upset a hell of a lot of people..A lie of omission, that's true, but not of the same importance.
Josy's was about her girlfriend being in B&R, which is relevant to their relationship.
Beside is Jill really lying ?
I mean they are talking about her family, she herself brought the subject up, then she awkwardly change the conversation to another direction.
Unlike Josy who didn't bring up the info at all and stayed away from it.
The relationship is different too.
With Jill, it's their first date, to get to know each other, it's normal, expected even, that some things will be left unsaid because they don't know each other that much.
With Josy, they are kinda romantically/ sexually involved in a serious way. No THAT serious but there are lots of strings attached.
So you can't say " much like some other female made, who continually gets slated for it...." because the context is totally different.
Let me just say...you're response didn't surprise me...in the least
I don't see how not wanting your last name known can be compared to hiding your relationship from someone you're fooling around with.I could give the real reason why people defend Jill's lie of ommision and not Maya's....but I'd probably be kicked off the thread and upset a hell of a lot of people..
Let me just say...you're response didn't surprise me...in the least
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Well I have a little idea why, but I accept pm, just to be sureI could give the real reason why people defend Jill's lie of ommision and not Maya's....but I'd probably be kicked off the thread and upset a hell of a lot of people..
Let me just say...you're response didn't surprise me...in the least
I do understand and accept Josy's reasons though. I don't blame her in the least, I just didn't like that she did it.
The same for Maya, though I DO blame her, she got chance after chance. I'm not pissed at her as much as I am usually for things like that because she was about to tell everything to MC before Josy knocked on the door.
And I do agree MC over reacted. Especially towards Josy. Personally in his situation, I would have left too, but not as dramatically as he did.
And just to make it clear, I'm not a dying hardcore fan of Jill. (Cause Sage is the way)
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