Best mothers

[Magiclapinou]

I'm a lot into mom/son incest stories and I guess I'm not the only one here, so who are the best (or your favourite) mother characters?

I'm not talking about the hottest or lewdest moms (there is already a topic for that), but the best ones, the most charismatic, the most endearing, the best written characters. My top 3:



Linda, obviously. I discovered Milfy City only a few weeks ago but she was a revelation. She looks great (as the MC puts it she *is* a goddess) for technical and more... hormonal reasons, but she's a very well written character, she's sharp, she has an inner life and she's really in love with the MC while still being a mother giving sound advice. Their first night together was hot, twisted and surprisingly tender. I still feel bad for Bob though.





Debbie from Summertime Saga. While most of the mom characters look like pornstars (Milf's control is fun but come on!), it's quite refreshing to see a mom next door who looks her age and all in all pretty normal (well, except for the breasts...). She also is conflicted about the relationship in a way that feels organic, but when it's on, it's *on*.



Noelle from Snow Daze. I'm not a fan of mind control (it almost always feels too easy in terms of writing) but the character manages to keep her personnality, she has her own kinks and the voice actress is a big plus.



And bonus points for Behind the Dune's Lady Jessica, she looks great and is just fun to be around, the game is a great parody of the original Cryo game (which was a big deal in France at the time). I wish the story was more focused on her but it's a riot to see her deal with her son's urges.

What about you?

 

[Johnny-Doe]

You have a good taste
I'll add two of my faves here.

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[DarthSeduction]

she's really in love with the MC

loves? She's got a complex that makes her want her son, I don't know that it's love. Based on her destructive and selfish behavior I'd say it's not love... but she's definitely a better written character than a lot of others



As for myself, only mom I'm currently rooting for is the one In Apartment 69.



She's got a hot figure, while not being an over the top "milf" caricature. She also seems to be a regular mom. I don't know how the relationship is going to evolve, and I might end up disliking her as much as I usually dislike moms in these games, but she's on my watchlist.

 

[Magiclapinou]

loves? She's got a complex that makes her want her son, I don't know that it's love. Based on her destructive and selfish behavior I'd say it's not love... but she's definitely a better written character than a lot of others.

Good point, but she definitely cares about the MC and doesn't use him as a sex object (again their first night was really cute, as far as incest sex with a *very* close relative goes), we'll have to wait for the finished game to know where it leads. I have faith in you, Linda!

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

loves? She's got a complex that makes her want her son, I don't know that it's love. Based on her destructive and selfish behavior I'd say it's not love... but she's definitely a better written character than a lot of others

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As for myself, only mom I'm currently rooting for is the one In Apartment 69.

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She's got a hot figure, while not being an over the top "milf" caricature. She also seems to be a regular mom. I don't know how the relationship is going to evolve, and I might end up disliking her as much as I usually dislike moms in these games, but she's on my watchlist.

I can't play The things we do for love anymore... I'm sorry... I liked the current content and character development but I can't play something made by someone with that thought process... you are right about Sara but... Linda? come back when you reach enlightement

edit: just joking. I'll keep playing. you're still wrong though

 

[Eerie Entity]

loves? She's got a complex that makes her want her son, I don't know that it's love. Based on her destructive and selfish behavior I'd say it's not love... but she's definitely a better written character than a lot of others

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As for myself, only mom I'm currently rooting for is the one In Apartment 69.

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She's got a hot figure, while not being an over the top "milf" caricature. She also seems to be a regular mom. I don't know how the relationship is going to evolve, and I might end up disliking her as much as I usually dislike moms in these games, but she's on my watchlist.

For whatever reason, she's been sexually attracted to MC for years, but she also developed romantic feelings for him later on, but even that has been going on for some years. If she didn't love MC, and not only as her son, she wouldn't be so concerned if she would ruin him, she wouldn't feel so ashamed and feel like she's a freak or something about it, she even went to see a shrink to get answers and help, and it was the said shrink, Judy, that in fact encouraged Linda to pursue her desires, that it would indeed even be preferable. She wouldn't be concerned about any of that if she didn't think it was morally wrong and questionable, or if was selfish about it and didn't care as long as she gets what she wants.
She's also not self destructive about it, she takes care that things go smoothly and that things remain a secret for the time being, although a couple of times there were a few "close calls", almost got caught in the act because she just couldn't or wouldn't stop before things get out of hand that moment, but I won't hold that against her, years of pent up sexual frustration and desire for the one she couldn't have at the time, I understand her

And at the end of the day, apart from this being a mother/son thing, how is it any different from a boy and a girl being best friends for many years, since they were kids, and the girl secretly likes/loves the boy but could never tell him for whatever reason, until much later she just couldn't keep it from him anymore and instead confronts him before she loses her chance?
In essence it's the same thing, even if the setting is different

Some would say Linda is obsessive about her son, and that may be to some extent, but if one desires and love something they can't have, and the desire/love runs deep enough, well, it can turn into an obsession, but in Linda's case that wasn't a severe case of obsession, she would reluctantly accept a "no" for an answer and "admit defeat".

Maybe she does have a condition, a condition similar to Electra complex but the mom/son version of it, but the fact that she acknowledges that her certain feeling and desires aren't normal and are wrong, makes her a sane person, a crazy person wouldn't know that they are crazy and that there's something wrong with them.

Yeah, Linda being concerned if she would ruin him, feeling like as she was a freak and a bad mom, seeks for help, wanting to make sure that her son is okay with the relationship they are about to venture into, everything suggests that she indeed and truly does love her son because despite her strong desires, urges and feelings that run deep inside, she'd never force him to do something he doesn't want to, she would sacrifice her desires and not pursue them if that was what her son wanted, love is sacrifice after all.

Yeah, there's no question about it, it really is love and desire she feels for her son, right or wrong, a condition or not, it's real

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

For whatever reason, she's been sexually attracted to MC for years, but she also developed romantic feelings for him later on, but even that has been going on for some years. If she didn't love MC, and not only as her son, she wouldn't be so concerned if she would ruin him, she wouldn't feel so ashamed and feel like she's a freak or something about it, she even went to see a shrink to get answers and help, and it was the said shrink, Judy, that in fact encouraged Linda to pursue her desires, that it would indeed even be preferable. She wouldn't be concerned about any of that if she didn't think it was morally wrong and questionable, or if was selfish about it and didn't care as long as she gets what she wants.
She's also not self destructive about it, she takes care that things go smoothly and that things remain a secret for the time being, although a couple of times there were a few "close calls", almost got caught in the act because she just couldn't or wouldn't stop before things get out of hand that moment, but I won't hold that against her, years of pent up sexual frustration and desire for the one she couldn't have at the time, I understand her

And at the end of the day, apart from this being a mother/son thing, how is it any different from a boy and a girl being best friends for many years, since they were kids, and the girl secretly likes/loves the boy but could never tell him for whatever reason, until much later she just couldn't keep it from him anymore and instead confronts him before she loses her chance?
In essence it's the same thing, even if the setting is different

Some would say Linda is obsessive about her son, and that may be to some extent, but if one desires and love something they can't have, and the desire/love runs deep enough, well, it can turn into an obsession, but in Linda's case that wasn't a severe case of obsession, she would reluctantly accept a "no" for an answer and "admit defeat".

Maybe she does have a condition, a condition similar condition to Electra complex but the mom/son version of it, but the fact that she acknowledges that her certain feeling and desires aren't normal and are wrong, makes her a sane person, a crazy person wouldn't know that they are crazy and that there's something wrong with them.

Yeah, Linda being concerned if she would ruin him, feeling like as she was a freak and a bad mom, seeks for help, wanting to make sure that her son is okay with the relationship they are about to venture into, everything suggests that she indeed and truly does love her son because despite her strong desires, urges and feelings that run deep inside, she'd never force him to do something he doesn't want to, she would sacrifice her desires and not pursue them if that was what her son wanted, love is sacrifice after all.

Yeah, there's no question about it, it really is love and desire she feels for her son, right or wrong, a condition or not, it's real

you forgot about Linda's concern for Sara's mental helth.

 

[MrStark]

For whatever reason, she's been sexually attracted to MC for years, but she also developed romantic feelings for him later on, but even that has been going on for some years. If she didn't love MC, and not only as her son, she wouldn't be so concerned if she would ruin him, she wouldn't feel so ashamed and feel like she's a freak or something about it, she even went to see a shrink to get answers and help, and it was the said shrink, Judy, that in fact encouraged Linda to pursue her desires, that it would indeed even be preferable. She wouldn't be concerned about any of that if she didn't think it was morally wrong and questionable, or if was selfish about it and didn't care as long as she gets what she wants.
She's also not self destructive about it, she takes care that things go smoothly and that things remain a secret for the time being, although a couple of times there were a few "close calls", almost got caught in the act because she just couldn't or wouldn't stop before things get out of hand that moment, but I won't hold that against her, years of pent up sexual frustration and desire for the one she couldn't have at the time, I understand her

And at the end of the day, apart from this being a mother/son thing, how is it any different from a boy and a girl being best friends for many years, since they were kids, and the girl secretly likes/loves the boy but could never tell him for whatever reason, until much later she just couldn't keep it from him anymore and instead confronts him before she loses her chance?
In essence it's the same thing, even if the setting is different

Some would say Linda is obsessive about her son, and that may be to some extent, but if one desires and love something they can't have, and the desire/love runs deep enough, well, it can turn into an obsession, but in Linda's case that wasn't a severe case of obsession, she would reluctantly accept a "no" for an answer and "admit defeat".

Maybe she does have a condition, a condition similar to Electra complex but the mom/son version of it, but the fact that she acknowledges that her certain feeling and desires aren't normal and are wrong, makes her a sane person, a crazy person wouldn't know that they are crazy and that there's something wrong with them.

Yeah, Linda being concerned if she would ruin him, feeling like as she was a freak and a bad mom, seeks for help, wanting to make sure that her son is okay with the relationship they are about to venture into, everything suggests that she indeed and truly does love her son because despite her strong desires, urges and feelings that run deep inside, she'd never force him to do something he doesn't want to, she would sacrifice her desires and not pursue them if that was what her son wanted, love is sacrifice after all.

Yeah, there's no question about it, it really is love and desire she feels for her son, right or wrong, a condition or not, it's real

 

[DarthSeduction]

If she didn't love MC, and not only as her son, she wouldn't be so concerned if she would ruin him, she wouldn't feel so ashamed and feel like she's a freak or something about it, she even went to see a shrink to get answers and help, and it was the said shrink, Judy, that in fact encouraged Linda to pursue her desires, that it would indeed even be preferable.

You can want that to be true, but all it would take to hold her back is basic human decency and a sense of shame. The uncontrollable lust we see in the early game are pretty explicit in showing us that what she has for him isn't love. In fact, that's what I liked about her character anyway. Finally a mom who was the weird one.

Since romance doesn't explicitly mean love, you could say that she does have romantic feelings for him. You can have a romantic getaway with your mistress, that doesn't mean you're in love with her. But no, I don't think she has love in the traditional sense of the word.

She's also not self destructive about it, she takes care that things go smoothly and that things remain a secret for the time being, although a couple of times there were a few "close calls", almost got caught in the act because she just couldn't or wouldn't stop before things get out of hand that moment, but I won't hold that against her, years of pent up sexual frustration and desire for the one she couldn't have at the time, I understand her

Forced exhibition in the restaurant, multiple sexual events in the bedroom where her husband is sleeping. She actively wants to be seen, to be caught. Yes, she takes care to protect herself, but still acts on those urges to put herself in harms way.

And at the end of the day, apart from this being a mother/son thing, how is it any different from a boy and a girl being best friends for many years, since they were kids, and the girl secretly likes/loves the boy but could never tell him for whatever reason, until much later she just couldn't keep it from him anymore and instead confronts him before she loses her chance?

If you take out the context of her being his mother it's probably creepier, because she's still a lot older than him, and obsessive over him. I assume you've noticed the place in the living room where a family photo should hang has a picture of just the two of them? Without the context of being his mother, she's a crazy stalker neighbor/family friend.

To be completely honest, I don't think Linda is actually capable of love. I think she's a narcissist and that is why her relationship with Bob has withered and died in the first place. It's obvious from a number of the actions that she's made that she is incredibly selfish. And what's worse, her complex makes her play favorites with her kids.

you forgot about Linda's concern for Sara's mental helth.

Cares about Sara's mental health? Please, she treats her like a child incapable of handling a divorce. She's a big girl, she's taken a dick in her ass, she can handle her daddy and mommy not loving one another anymore.

Whats more, as is revealed in the most recent update, she's fine with you doing ok in school, and resented her mother for being overbearing on her for her grades in school, but has grounded and secluded Sara over her grades. She has a lot to say about how grades don't matter when it come to you, but when it comes to Sara they're everything? Please. She's a hypocrite.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

You can want that to be true, but all it would take to hold her back is basic human decency and a sense of shame. The uncontrollable lust we see in the early game are pretty explicit in showing us that what she has for him isn't love. In fact, that's what I liked about her character anyway. Finally a mom who was the weird one.

Since romance doesn't explicitly mean love, you could say that she does have romantic feelings for him. You can have a romantic getaway with your mistress, that doesn't mean you're in love with her. But no, I don't think she has love in the traditional sense of the word.



Forced exhibition in the restaurant, multiple sexual events in the bedroom where her husband is sleeping. She actively wants to be seen, to be caught. Yes, she takes care to protect herself, but still acts on those urges to put herself in harms way.



If you take out the context of her being his mother it's probably creepier, because she's still a lot older than him, and obsessive over him. I assume you've noticed the place in the living room where a family photo should hang has a picture of just the two of them? Without the context of being his mother, she's a crazy stalker neighbor/family friend.

To be completely honest, I don't think Linda is actually capable of love. I think she's a narcissist and that is why her relationship with Bob has withered and died in the first place. It's obvious from a number of the actions that she's made that she is incredibly selfish. And what's worse, her complex makes her play favorites with her kids.



Cares about Sara's mental health? Please, she treats her like a child incapable of handling a divorce. She's a big girl, she's taken a dick in her ass, she can handle her daddy and mommy not loving one another anymore.

Whats more, as is revealed in the most recent update, she's fine with you doing ok in school, and resented her mother for being overbearing on her for her grades in school, but has grounded and secluded Sara over her grades. She has a lot to say about how grades don't matter when it come to you, but when it comes to Sara they're everything? Please. She's a hypocrite.

bye felicia

 

[Ennoch]

One thing is proven again already. Linda is divisive and noone seems to be indifferent toward her. She is either adored or loathed. Which just proves that her character is depicted wonderfully. She stirs the heart of people! She is the lich queen of F95zone! I prefer this one over that insufferable brat Arthas... she has bigger boobs after all

 

[Eerie Entity]

You can want that to be true, but all it would take to hold her back is basic human decency and a sense of shame. The uncontrollable lust we see in the early game are pretty explicit in showing us that what she has for him isn't love. In fact, that's what I liked about her character anyway. Finally a mom who was the weird one.

Since romance doesn't explicitly mean love, you could say that she does have romantic feelings for him. You can have a romantic getaway with your mistress, that doesn't mean you're in love with her. But no, I don't think she has love in the traditional sense of the word.



Forced exhibition in the restaurant, multiple sexual events in the bedroom where her husband is sleeping. She actively wants to be seen, to be caught. Yes, she takes care to protect herself, but still acts on those urges to put herself in harms way.



If you take out the context of her being his mother it's probably creepier, because she's still a lot older than him, and obsessive over him. I assume you've noticed the place in the living room where a family photo should hang has a picture of just the two of them? Without the context of being his mother, she's a crazy stalker neighbor/family friend.

To be completely honest, I don't think Linda is actually capable of love. I think she's a narcissist and that is why her relationship with Bob has withered and died in the first place. It's obvious from a number of the actions that she's made that she is incredibly selfish. And what's worse, her complex makes her play favorites with her kids.



Cares about Sara's mental health? Please, she treats her like a child incapable of handling a divorce. She's a big girl, she's taken a dick in her ass, she can handle her daddy and mommy not loving one another anymore.

Whats more, as is revealed in the most recent update, she's fine with you doing ok in school, and resented her mother for being overbearing on her for her grades in school, but has grounded and secluded Sara over her grades. She has a lot to say about how grades don't matter when it come to you, but when it comes to Sara they're everything? Please. She's a hypocrite.

I have to admit that your theory is a very solid one, I can see that you've put a lot of thought into Linda's behavior and thought process and everything, that theory is actually so solid that you could be right about her.
I'd like to believe that we both have a solid theory on Linda, only that we're sitting at the opposite ends of the table, haha

But I guess we'll never know unless ICSTOR reveals the truth, haha, but at any rate, I respect your theory my friend, it really is a very sound one, I'd just like to believe in my own theory because it'd be a lot less crude one and would fit the general story better, that's all

P.S. Looking forward to the next update to your game, really loved the very promising premise

 

[Johnny-Doe]

Meanwhile in Milfy City....
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[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Whats more, as is revealed in the most recent update, she's fine with you doing ok in school, and resented her mother for being overbearing on her for her grades in school, but has grounded and secluded Sara over her grades. She has a lot to say about how grades don't matter when it come to you, but when it comes to Sara they're everything? Please. She's a hypocrite.

because Sara is a a girl, a petite and pretty one, so she might not be hired for manual work, but might be targetted by creeps that might take advantage of her situation

 

[desmosome]

Vanilla incest is so boring to me. I can enjoy non-incest vanilla games sometimes for the immersive story or the bubbly romance. The average incest game has about 0 depth to the relationships so a regular romance plot just doesn't work. There are some exceptions like Dreaming of Dana though.

Anyways, my vote for best mama is the one in The Tyrant. Honorable mention to the mom in

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. Too bad its incomplete... but you can read the rest of the story from the original text. I guess I like pretty much every mom that you can dominate or mind control, probably more so due to the power dynamics than character depth or writing lol.

 

[DarthSeduction]

because Sara is a a girl, a petite and pretty one, so she might not be hired for manual work, but might be targetted by creeps that might take advantage of her situation

considering it was supposed to be in relation to herself, and how she didn't need the really good grades her sister got, that's about as relevant to this conversation as if you were talking about a character from a completely different game.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

considering it was supposed to be in relation to herself, and how she didn't need the really good grades her sister got, that's about as relevant to this conversation as if you were talking about a character from a completely different game.

translated : don't be talkin bad about Sara or I'll cut ya and feed your corpse to my dogs.
You're a Sara zelot, and for this reason I can't hate you. But since Linda grounded our beloved sister, you only wish to see Linda's flaws through a magnifying lense. Sure Linda said grades are not important, but that's as long as you're not failing and having to repeat a year, which is what was going to happen to Sara due to her terrible time management skills.

 

[DarthSeduction]

translated : don't be talkin bad about Sara or I'll cut ya and feed your corpse to my dogs.
You're a Sara zelot, and for this reason I can't hate you. But since Linda grounded our beloved sister, you only wish to see Linda's flaws through a magnifying lense. Sure Linda said grades are not important, but that's as long as you're not failing and having to repeat a year, which is what was going to happen to Sara due to her terrible time management skills.

Only problem with that is that ICSTOR made Sara out to be brilliant in a way that a week or so would be more than enough time. As a smart kid who wasted his potential in High School, I know it wasn't that difficult for me to turn my grades around when I started skipping homework, which was at least 2 times a year, and I usually wasn't locked in my room for the last half of the day as well, meaning that, while I was still punished, I spent less time than she apparently is.

As to seeing Linda's flaws through a magnifying lens, I think her flaws are genuinely what makes her an interesting character. She's not a good person, based on those flaws, but she's almost unique, in the landscape of incest games, because of them. I can only think of 3 other moms who developed feelings for their son willingly, first off, and of those 3 only one of them seemingly has them at the start, though under different circumstances. Linda is a great character, but not a good person. I genuinely hope ICSTOR sticks to the character he's made rather than making the mistake of "love conquers all" lazy writing. There's nothing wrong with her as is, but if he does change her to be more of a good person then it will just make the beginning feel cheap.

 

[Volta]

loves? She's got a complex that makes her want her son, I don't know that it's love. Based on her destructive and selfish behavior I'd say it's not love... but she's definitely a better written character than a lot of others

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As for myself, only mom I'm currently rooting for is the one In Apartment 69.

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She's got a hot figure, while not being an over the top "milf" caricature. She also seems to be a regular mom. I don't know how the relationship is going to evolve, and I might end up disliking her as much as I usually dislike moms in these games, but she's on my watchlist.

That was smartly written, however Linda in Milf City is interesting because she is a flawed, unstable, possessive, disturbed and predatory train-wreck of a person, making that attractive is not all that easy, which for someone with the history of less than stellar storytelling that ICSTOR has(renders first, story last) is a feat in and of itself. I have to confess a softspot for Sara and her lovelorn freckledness, she is far more likeable but a good character doesn't need to be likeable, just compelling.

 

[frap]

That was smartly written, however Linda in Milf City is interesting because she is a flawed, unstable, possessive, disturbed and predatory train-wreck of a person, making that attractive is not all that easy, which for someone with the history of less than stellar storytelling that ICSTOR has(renders first, story last) is a feat in and of itself. I have to confess a softspot for Sara and her lovelorn freckledness, she is far more likeable but a good character doesn't need to be likeable, just compelling.

Hear hear! All good characters, whether in a game, a book, or a movie are flawed in some way or other. Why? Because people are all flawed in some way or other. How well they hide it may be another story altogether, but we're drawn to characters we can relate to by the fact that they aren't perfect beings. Some of the most compelling characters are also the least likable. Walter White is not likable in the least, but he is a truly compelling character.

Writing perfect, Pollyanna hero characters is easy. Writing one-dimensional, mustache-twirling villain characters is easy. But the character that leaves us thinking "oh, how awful" one minute while bouncing us back to "hey, they're not all bad" the next is no easy feat.

So, as much as I adore the freckle-faced Sara, Linda is by far the stronger character of that game.