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Phenir

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Okay found it. Thanks a lot. Going to enjoy the story proper. Thanks a lot for the help guys.

Do you think I should go in the Chaos Dungeon first and farm up or just start playing?

I noticed you can get a lot of items from it.
It's really easy to get super powerful in the chaos dungeon. It also has some spoilers for the overall story and minor sequence breaking for dlc 1. If you don't care for the gameplay or any of that, go for it. If you care about the story, I recommend getting at least G end first, and maybe doing dlc 1 (deep sea area).
Was there ever any kind of difficulty or challenge mode mod made for this game? It is fairly well balanced but also feels like the line between an impossible boss and a pushover is way too thin at times.
If you're looking for a challenge there's sl 1, or dream soul only.
 

Mr. Cofman

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Why there are only four Alices? Or rather three mannequins with someone who plays with them?
Why only four nightmares?
Four-Leaf-Clover fairies?
Four succubi sisters?
Four demonic princesses?
Four members of the Black Trial?
Four main heroines...? You know, red, green, white and black and the purple cat.
And the fifth one behind them is... someone who is them and not them simultaneously, or is it something completely foreign? I still wonder...

Hmm... perhaps it's kind of a situation where your reflection tries to replace you?
Though all of it still can be just a sick joke, which got out of control a bit.

No one got hurt, right? I was acting~
...or am I?

What do you think?
Except that I need to touch some grass.
 

Hanakoto

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Why there are only four Alices? Or rather three mannequins with someone who plays with them?
Why only four nightmares?
Four-Leaf-Clover fairies?
Four succubi sisters?
Four demonic princesses?
Four members of the Black Trial?
Four main heroines...? You know, red, green, white and black and the purple cat.
And the fifth one behind them is... someone who is them and not them simultaneously, or is it something completely foreign? I still wonder...

Hmm... perhaps it's kind of a situation where your reflection tries to replace you?
Though all of it still can be just a sick joke, which got out of control a bit.

No one got hurt, right? I was acting~
...or am I?

What do you think?
Except that I need to touch some grass.
Japanese dev. Number four is considered bad, unlucky and death (not just in Japan, east is like that). Can also note how player has 9 classes to choose from in BS 2, split in 4+4+1 when creating character - 9 is also bad number, means "suffering".

Western world... Number 13 is the one unlucky, BUT 1+3 is 4.
 

Mr. Cofman

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Japanese dev. Number four is considered bad, unlucky and death (not just in Japan, east is like that). Can also note how player has 9 classes to choose from in BS 2, split in 4+4+1 when creating character - 9 is also bad number, means "suffering".

Western world... Number 13 is the one unlucky, BUT 1+3 is 4.
If only they knew that the world consists of FOUR elements... and NINE would refer to the number of consciousnesses or worlds, mentioned in the Nichiren Buddhism.
But I don't see how it correlates with the game.

Edit: Though in my not the most stable state I made a few correlations to the numbers I don't have idea what they mean now, but... meep. I truly think it's incomprehensive, and may or may not refer to the gods or religions used in the game, explicitly or implicitly.
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Omnom88

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I have updated my version to 4.4 now which should contain all the DLCs too. Everything should be alright now.
Glad you got all the content now. The main point i try to bring across new people is that you can only exerpience the journey for the first time once. Regardless of you much you like or dislike the story/content afterwards. At least you got the proper experience either way for the first time.
 

Mr. Cofman

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where is the "white souls"?
It is clear as The White Soul that you didn't enjoy nor played the game much.
Why bother giving pointless questions?
Better ask something meaningful, for example: "How dumb or insane you need to be in order to enjoy this abomination?".
And the answer will be: "Pretty much. Enough to enjoy even darker versions of known fairy tales and cosmic horrors, piled up together and peppered with hentai you won't enjoy at first, considering the world you are in. It is not for the faint hearted ones, as I always say.".
And if flipped assets is a problem to you, I fear you may go insane from the thought of how many equally looking trees, grass, buildings or cars you can find in the real world.

Oh well, expectations are meant to be broken I guess.
 

CheeBaBoom

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How do I get the twins to be alone?

Already made covenant with them and maxed it, one of the twin told me would continue more later but I can't seem to trigger her to go out of the room.
 

Hanakoto

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How do I get the twins to be alone?

Already made covenant with them and maxed it, one of the twin told me would continue more later but I can't seem to trigger her to go out of the room.


If they are "made love" to after reaching Covenant Lv3, Dee will appear outside the room after the player has rested near a bonfire. When interacted with, she will ask the player to make love to her in secret.
 

CheeBaBoom

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If they are "made love" to after reaching Covenant Lv3, Dee will appear outside the room after the player has rested near a bonfire. When interacted with, she will ask the player to make love to her in secret.
Thanks. The other site (that shows if a place has bonfire or not) I am on did not mention how to trigger that so I was wondering.

I really wonder why the dev does not want to use MV. MV have so many better features compared to using VX Ace
 
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Hanakoto

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Thanks. The other site (that shows if a place has bonfire or not) I am on did not mention how to trigger that so I was wondering.

I really wonder why the dev does not want to use MV. MV have so many better features compared to using VX Ace
No idea, but internet says there's need to switch from Ruby scripts to JS plugins. At the same time, MV can be easily ported for mobile devices? But MV is more complex overall? Would be best to ask dev. Maybe they try to learn MV or even MZ already, since we wait for Dead Red Hood for some time already.
 

Hanakoto

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This poster solved their issue but I wanted to provide an alternative solution - I just used a Girl's Scent before entering the boss room and the fairy tale spawned
Dying gives character status "hollow" - won't be able to see dream spirits (but nightmare spirits as well). Cured by using Girl's Scent or defeating boss.
 

xion930

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Hey in walkthrough it says to not kill white rabbits does it also include chaos Dungeon as well and what happens if i do ? Also is this all 3 dlc version?
 

Mr. Cofman

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Hey in walkthrough it says to not kill white rabbits does it also include chaos Dungeon as well and what happens if i do ? Also is this all 3 dlc version?
"Fuck the walkthrough, kill all rabbits!"
...my apologies.
Killing those in Chaos Dungeon will only give you resources, but if we are talking about Wonderland... your SEN will get lower.
You don't want it to get low if you just begun your playthrough. Trust me. Though, don't restrain yourself on New Game+, get SEN as low as you can/want.
Also yes, this copy of the game has all three official DLCs, excluding the Journey of Wind and Memory, which is a fan made mod.
 
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Phenir

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Killing npcs, which includes white rabbits, reduces your sen. This does not include enemies in the chaos dungeon; just specifically the rabbits in rabbit hole (but not the ones behind the rabbit key door). Yes all the dlc is there.
 
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