I feel like we should all be excited since we haven't heard from Tori in a little. It means it's truly close. He mentioned that the previous update remaster and new update is completed. Just needs to finish correcting minor mistakes, editing script, and tweaking UI. So I'm sure he's deep in the cave trying to get that done.
not a good sign when your metaphor for development troubles has gone from "let him cook! he's in the kitchen!" to "he's deep in the cave. he's using rocks and twigs. he is cold and it is wet"
It's quite amusing that the developers keep delaying the release, always claiming to ensure the quality. The 0.5 version was not of high quality last time. They gave a vague countdown last time, but there was no update for more than 20 days. Now they're just ignoring the issue. What's even funnier is that the die-hard fans always chant the same slogan... Delaying is for better quality.
Even though I am still on the dev's side, all these platitudes from the fans both here and on discord are getting dumber and dumber.
No platitudes here, but the trolls are already jumping at the fact that Tori missed the end of august deadline (which was a rough estimation at best) to declare the game dead and abandoned. We already know that it's in the countdown for the last few days before release and we've seen the example shared of how the art's being improved. Sadly, I know that as soon as the update DOES get released, everyone's going to be screaming and crying that it'll be a Patreon subscribers only release and the rest of us have to wait another 2 weeks for the public release of version 0.6.2
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Why can't he just give a release date to make everyone stfu ? It's really not that deep...(it was july, then august but now that he has not made it, it should be clear because it's the very (very) end right?).
He worked on the update so he should know where he's at and what's left, everyone has had a deadline in their life. And if what's left is unprecised you should at least be able to give an estimate of the work. Estimates are made for that. It's like we'll see the same exact post every week/month. It's been "close" for a lot of time now. It doesn't even make sense anymore. Groundhog day posting.
He worked on the update so he should know where he's at and what's left, everyone has had a deadline in their life. And if what's left is unprecised you should at least be able to give an estimate of the work. Estimates are made for that. It's like we'll see the same exact post every week/month. It's been "close" for a lot of time now. It doesn't even make sense anymore. Groundhog day posting.
Hard disagree. 0.5 ruled. I'm not defending months long delays, but let's not pretend that the end results haven't been great so far.
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i think he meant 0.5.0, which was a lot rougher than 0.5.2, which improved it a lot
He probably can't give a release date at the moment. It was a definitely a mistake to start the countdown. People wouldn't be so mad if they weren't agitated by the countdown. So it might be the right decision not to give any estimates. The damage had already been done, but there is no point in furthering it.
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It can be difficult to accurately estimate known quantities of coding work, let alone all the random unforeseeable adjustments that likely arise while working on a VN like this. This isn't a "slap on a few sentences and ship it" game, I believe the author spends time on the writing and probably adjusts/scraps things as better approaches are found. That usually comes with timeline-delaying stuff like coding tweaks, the need to create new art or adjust old art, reluctance to leave threads on the cutting room floor and cut off a storyline too soon, etc.
We're not in AAA deadline land, so we lose regular scheduling but get products that better reflect what the creator wants. I think that's a good thing even though it sucks to wait (because the game and story is so good). Some weeks, it feels like my project teams at work spend more time quibbling over price estimates/timelines for higher-ups than focusing on getting valuable work done for clients. It can pay to be patient, letting the experts focus on what they do best, resulting in a better end product. Just food for thought.
We're not in AAA deadline land, so we lose regular scheduling but get products that better reflect what the creator wants. I think that's a good thing even though it sucks to wait (because the game and story is so good). Some weeks, it feels like my project teams at work spend more time quibbling over price estimates/timelines for higher-ups than focusing on getting valuable work done for clients. It can pay to be patient, letting the experts focus on what they do best, resulting in a better end product. Just food for thought.
0.5.0 was rushed to release before Tori was ready for it to go out which is why it wasn't as polished and why the following two patch updates took so much longer. That's all the more reason people need to calm down and just give Tori time. as much as people complaining about how long it's been, this update is merely delayed by one month from the originally planned release date so far which is not abnormal for games on this site.
if your friend says "hey man, don't eat lunch, i'm bringing you some awesome food at 12pm" and you get excited...
then at 1pm he's still not there, so you ask "are you still coming?" and he says "the long wait is because i'm bringing you something extra good, you should get really excited." so you get even more hyped...
now it's 2pm and he's still not there. you ask again, "everything alright?" and now he's gone radio silent.
it feels wrong to get mad over a free lunch, but you'd be a little annoyed, right? even if you are a saint and DON'T get annoyed, you'd expect 9 out of 10 retards on a porno forum to get upset, right?
that's what is happening here. making a final countdown post for a hotly anticipated game update and then mostly disappearing for 3 weeks is gonna make people mad, even if they don't REALLY have any justification to be mad about it. i'm not personally that upset about it (plenty of other fish in the sea to jerk off to) but this thread turning into a nightmare is basically guaranteed given the circumstances