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VN Ren'Py Blurring the Walls [v0.5.2] [Torimiata]

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TwistedArchitect

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melantha said:
wow you guys really turned on the dev. what was once all glorious praises, now complains without anything happening.
but maybe that's the reason, nothing's happening lol

well remember, we here receive these content for free, so tbf we have the least amount of right to complain.
the dev is enjoying his $ over at patreon, and I read he's posting actively there.
so if that's where he's comfortable, (ofc anyone would) then let him be.
he has no responsibility towards us free users.

however, hearing about the remaster, i'm 50/50 on that.
since i'm also dipping my toes on AI, let me share with you some possible reasoning

despite what public thinks, to create quality AI content, it's not just type in prompt and click generate.
the AI creation workflows these days has also become a supply chain:
tools, extensions, checkpoints, loras, embeddings, etc.

it is a possibility if a dev envisions bunch of scenes that the current model is unable to do easily/fast, he might need to switch.
once you switch models, loras might not be compatible, or even the extensions you have installed.
it really depends on the dev's workflow, but e.g. you switch to SDXL and it still doesn't have proper ControlNet models at the time.
and, dont quote me on this, i remember hearing dev made a lora for the fmc, which might need to be redone? idk

understand it's not hand-drawn like, "just draw what you envision", nor is it "click-generate".
there is a possibility the whole workflow changed.

but thats the secondary point. the primary point is the reason why in the first place, that the current workflow the dev has is unable to do the scenes you envision. so it's possibly not "on a whim". is what i'd like you guys to open your perspective to.

ofc idk the reality of the situation back there. just want to open some eyes of possibilities.
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I agree with your thoughts, this thread has gotten pretty wild.

The only people who really have anything to complain about are those that gave the Dev money. Everyone who played this for free needs to calm down. It's just a game, of which there are many on this site so go play one of those and come back later.

Now I do understand the anger, I'm also 50/50 on the remaster. On one hand I can understand wanting all the art to match and switching to new tools messes that up.

BUT you remaster after you've completed the story. The majority of people who will play this game have already started playing it and are waiting for the story to continue.

This game has been out for some time now, I know I have no interest in the remaster. I don't care that the art won't match going forward because I'm not going to go back and play the story I've already covered.

And I think quite a lot of people in this thread might feel this way.

Should have just continued on with the story and put a disclaimer saying the art will change due to new tools for the small amount of new players that might stumble upon the game.

But in the end it's not up to me or anyone, the Dev can do what he wants with the game. Whenever the new update comes out with more story I'll be right there.

I ain't giving the Dev money :)....maybe when it's complete.
 
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a4asshole

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its looking generic now.. the previous renders had some characteristics..
her mole does not have the same effect ...
 
Griev

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Sevi said:
I think its time to rightfully tag this as abandoned, ive seen other threads get them much faster.
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Other threads got them because the Dev went 3 months with no communication on any of their socials. This dev hasn't missed a full week without some form of communication though. You can always manually unwatch the thread though and pretend it's abandoned.
 
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Griev said:
Other threads got them because the Dev went 3 months with no communication on any of their socials. This dev hasn't missed a full week without some form of communication though. You can always manually unwatch the thread though and pretend it's abandoned.
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"this dev hasn't missed a full week without some form of communication" made me remember that he promised weekly dev diaries back in august in the platinum discord:

torimiata in discord on august 6th said:
As a small token of appreciation for your patience, I'll be increasing the frequency of Dev Diaries to every week until release, instead of every 2 weeks. This will give you a more regular peek into the development process and help alleviate some of the uncertainty.
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this dev is remarkably consistent about one thing: if he makes a promise, you can be assured that he will break it
 
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hmc15

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YoloOwn said:
That game was a masterpiece, I'm really sorry that the dev had a really rough time and when he came back he just had to face more shit and decided to vanish. The only NTS game that still gives me hope is Vulgar Reverie
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"Masterpiece" is very strong wording...its a good work in progress w plenty of dumb story diversions and a bit parallel development. Good, not great, but def not masterpiece.
 
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WhatDa

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hmc15 said:
Good, not great, but def not masterpiece.
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I think as far as the genre of NTS focused kinetic/visual novels goes this is one of if not the best available. Most on the market either have 4 guys running a train on your GF by chapter 2 or you have to hold ctrl for 5 mins to see her hug someone. The pacing is good, the scenarios are believable enough and creative. Can't think of much else that comes close (especially none with as much content completed)
 
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WhatDa said:
I think as far as the genre of NTS focused kinetic/visual novels goes this is one of if not the best available. Most on the market either have 4 guys running a train on your GF by chapter 2 or you have to hold ctrl for 5 mins to see her hug someone. The pacing is good, the scenarios are believable enough and creative. Can't think of much else that comes close (especially none with as much content completed)
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yea except in this game you have to wait 6 months to hold ctrl to see the same content you already saw before
 
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burcounting808

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idkmanerally said:
yea except in this game you have to wait 6 months to hold ctrl to see the same content you already saw before
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I know we're partly joking about this but I'm fairly confident that a lot of the game is going to feel pretty new when the remaster is released. So that's at least exciting to look forward to.

Like obviously the narrative will only progress to the same point (I'm guessing unless Tori feels like he needs to change it to better fit the direction of the remaster) but how it looks getting to that point will feel like playing through the game for the first time with the additional scenes and reimagined existing scenes.
 
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WhatDa said:
I think as far as the genre of NTS focused kinetic/visual novels goes this is one of if not the best available. Most on the market either have 4 guys running a train on your GF by chapter 2 or you have to hold ctrl for 5 mins to see her hug someone. The pacing is good, the scenarios are believable enough and creative. Can't think of much else that comes close (especially none with as much content completed)
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Well, imho Moonripple Lake comes more than close, it´s in fact plainly ahead ... and in active development ;)
 
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kristo0086

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neroman76 said:
Well, imho Moonripple Lake comes more than close, it´s in fact plainly ahead ... and in active development ;)
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You guys are all wrong. There are not many NETORASE and I would not compare them. It's better to demand more content and better support all of them.
Blurring the Walls
My New Girlfriend
Netorase Phone
Vulgar Reverie
Lucky Phone
Moonripple Lake
 
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