VN Ren'Py Blurring the Walls [v0.5.27] [Torimiata]

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Torimiata

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The usual trolls are out in full force, I see ;) no point believing anything they say.

The game's core themes haven't changed - still NTS-focused, same character dynamics, same story DNA. What's changed is the quality of writing, art, and overall polish.

I know some will prefer the original or not understand why it took this long - and that’s okay. For those excited about this direction, the next update drops in two weeks! For anyone else, there are plenty of other great games to enjoy.
 

mmm1374

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The usual trolls are out in full force, I see ;) no point believing anything they say.

The game's core themes haven't changed - still NTS-focused, same character dynamics, same story DNA. What's changed is the quality of writing, art, and overall polish.

I know some will prefer the original or not understand why it took this long - and that’s okay. For those excited about this direction, the next update drops in two weeks! For anyone else, there are plenty of other great games to enjoy.
Tori the game says there is bad ending is it going to be a possible ntr ending or by bad you mean something else ?
 

mmm1374

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The usual trolls are out in full force, I see ;) no point believing anything they say.

The game's core themes haven't changed - still NTS-focused, same character dynamics, same story DNA. What's changed is the quality of writing, art, and overall polish.

I know some will prefer the original or not understand why it took this long - and that’s okay. For those excited about this direction, the next update drops in two weeks! For anyone else, there are plenty of other great games to enjoy.
And by the way thanks for not giving up on the game my dream to see terace with ayumi one day will come finally true
 
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alex220477

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Trolls are just checking the facts Mr. Dev, you are trying to defend the product, but as someone who has played these games for a long time, if you present me with a MC with a small dick, then the dynamics are clear to understand, when you Dev create the character of an idiot, gurdone, cuckold and small dick Mc, you will excuse me, but there is only one reason, because he becomes an NTR, the NTS I played did not have this dysfunction between the characters' dicks and Mc. You think we are trolls, I think we are long-time players who understand dynamics. We are not Devs like you, but that does not qualify us as game experts. Thanks
 
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alex220477

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Tori the game says there is bad ending is it going to be a possible ntr ending or by bad you mean something else ?







DEv contradicts himself, if he says that there will be a negative ending, then, the Trolls are right, and he contradicted himself, think about it. It took him a year to go back to making a product worse.
 

Pagoramix

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So basically, the game have been in the remake half the time since first release, and the first remade build is about the third of what the game was at the point it started being remade.

That's honestly disapointing. I for one hardly see what was the hustle to start remaking things, you know, one would expect the change to be HUGE to take that much time, and if anything the change are quite insubstancial:

-All the CG have been remade but for fuck sake we're talking about a few still image made by IA. I mean, since the scenes don't change, half the work was being done already right? Even taking into account edditing, that is still a shitton of time.
-Some basic motion effect are now applied to every scene... I honestly don't like it. Actually it's not just a feeling, the peculiar effect is the one used to showcase dreams or hallucinations in other VN. And you can't unmake a story telling rule. I guess i can get used to it, like learn to oversee it, but it defeat the original point right?
-A few choices are available now. They're your usual dom/sub trope. Sigh. Showcased as a gauge that u can't access by pressing a button or what not.

Annnd that's all. Half a year to introduce 2 technical feature and about 30 minute of gameplay. And the game still feel unaccomplished missing basic feature like a gallery, QOL feature like changing font, fontcolor, deactivate the wobbly effect, access stats, choose resolution.
If it was about introducing self made core mechanics, add a completely new path to what was done already, animate a shitton of scene, i would have understand.
Am not the kind that like to blame dev, they make it out of passion, but i think any creator have to be honest with himself and be aware of his abilities. You don't start all over again for a few issue. The feeling that give such a remake is that the creator is full of doubt. That he don't have a vision. And it leave the audience in a likewise state. How much time until the creator have another crisis of selfdoubt and his work to come to another hiatus? get abandonned?

If Torimiata ever read this, you should know i don't mean ill. Am just stating the obvious right? But it's all i can think of after playing the "preview" which by the way is the worst thing to do after such a hiatus to release something stated as "preview" dude bro pal every one is thinking there isn't anything else done, wherever the case or not :rolleyes:
 

alex220477

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Tell me Mr. DEV, if we trolls are wrong, then, explain to me why this forcing of making MC with a smaller dick, is a simple question from a troll, thanks
 

Griev

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Is this where I sign up for the 'disappeared for months just to drop a preview' club? Cuz I have a problem with that guy too :coffee:

Jokes aside - it's technically a 'preview' but we're talking 40k words and several new scenes - not exactly a small preview.

What changed? Everything. New art pipeline (took forever to get right but worth it), completely rewritten dialogue, new scenes, full 1080p... Started as a remaster, turned into a proper remake.

Story wise, it will of course feel entirely familiar for now so if you want to wait until the whole Act 1 catches up, totally get it but it's about time stuff is actually happening.

Some decisions I’ve made might not resonate with everyone, but the game is in a place that feels much more polished and cohesive to me.

Updates will be dropping every two weeks for a while too as this is a staged release.
At one point you mentioned stalling payments until you'd completed the remake, right? I could be misremembering the actual wording though, as I'm without coffee and it's still early... but I could have sworn that was the case. I ask because you've now decided to release a "preview" with the first piece of the remake with subsequent pieces made exclusive to paid patrons. Why the change?

If I'm misremembering just roast me, or ignore my early morning ramblings...
 

Hard Working Dev

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The usual trolls are out in full force, I see ;) no point believing anything they say.
Why does this "remaster," which took longer to develop than the older game up to version 5, include less content than the original game's initial v1 release? What do you mean "sketching"?

Your own Quote:
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Not really hater, but weird seeing such statements and results (lacklucter remaster with low content that took 8 months).
Maybe try optimizing your settings, because this didn't took me 8 hours. 10 minutes all it took.

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And not hater for stating terrible visual glitching. Screen flicker is crazy. You're drawing on renpy too much and it glitches the screen.

We are not Devs like you, but that does not qualify us as game experts. Thanks
You don't need to be a dev to say total of 30-50 AI CG in 8 months is BS. This remaster can be done in 2 months.
There’s not much technical improvement over the original game. If you create 5 CGs a day (from what I seem, 30min for each CG is plenty), that’s about two weeks of work. Even if you add Photoshop effects and other touches, it might take a month. Yet, the result is less content. It just doesn’t make sense why it took so long.
 
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luccel

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Trolls are just checking the facts Mr. Dev, you are trying to defend the product, but as someone who has played these games for a long time, if you present me with a MC with a small dick, then the dynamics are clear to understand, when you Dev create the character of an idiot, gurdone, cuckold and small dick Mc, you will excuse me, but there is only one reason, because he becomes an NTR, the NTS I played did not have this dysfunction between the characters' dicks and Mc. You think we are trolls, I think we are long-time players who understand dynamics. We are not Devs like you, but that does not qualify us as game experts. Thanks
this is one of the dumbest things i think ive ever read in an nts thread and holy fuck there are some shit takes in nts threads.

take a fucking lap, you come off as very insecure about yourself and no were in the definition of nts or ntr is dick size ever mentioned im all for hating on a dev for legit things but just cause you think dick size changes nts to ntr some how doesnt mean the game has changed form nts to ntr it just means your a skitzo
 
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Alexia@69

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Man, what a shame. Spotted this on the latest release page after months of it having not been updated and got excited, only to find out it's yet another "remake" that has less content than the initial release more than a year ago. I'm sure this time it'll be different though, right? This dev is not like the other devs, it just seems that way because everything so far points to that. But that's just people being haters, instead of looking at things objectively, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the dev's actions. I'll check again in a year, hopefully the second remake will have actual animated scenes. Seems feasible
 
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Tecton

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Amuses me how the detractors are either below 50 comment accounts or people saying the dumbest things imaginable, proving they have no idea how anything works.
 
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Hard Working Dev

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this is one of the dumbest things i think ive ever read in an nts thread and holy fuck there are some shit takes in nts threads.

take a fucking lap, you come off as very insecure about yourself and no were in the definition of nts or ntr is dick size ever mentioned im all for hating on a dev for legit things but just cause you think dick size changes nts to ntr some how doesnt mean the game has changed form nts to ntr it just means your a skitzo
Dick got smaller to emphasize how beta MC is. Usual trope for NTR and main attraction for this genre is to demean MC and make player feel like a cuck. There's difference between cucking and "swinging"/netorase.
It's not normal size. MC got tiny dick compare to Terrace or "crowd" in dream/imagination sequence. Any other male has 2-3 times bigger dick.
Your player/mc dick is tiny compared to any other male in this game. Remaster made it even smaller. This empathize that player/MC is a loser/beta cuck with tiniest dick in this tropical city.
 
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mok135

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The usual trolls are out in full force, I see ;) no point believing anything they say.

The game's core themes haven't changed - still NTS-focused, same character dynamics, same story DNA. What's changed is the quality of writing, art, and overall polish.

I know some will prefer the original or not understand why it took this long - and that’s okay. For those excited about this direction, the next update drops in two weeks! For anyone else, there are plenty of other great games to enjoy.
I enjoyed this part of the remake. The increase in quality of both the writing and art is really noticeable (I really loved how much focus was given to Ayumi's ass ngl). Of course it it really disappointing that only a part of it is released after all this time. But I am hopeful that this time you will follow the set schedule and release a part of the remake every 2 weeks. Otherwise, this return will feel really hollow.

P.S. Ignore the trolls, Torimiata. They are out for blood since the update has just come out. Alyss has been really lonely without you.
 
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alex220477

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this is one of the dumbest things i think ive ever read in an nts thread and holy fuck there are some shit takes in nts threads.

take a fucking lap, you come off as very insecure about yourself and no were in the definition of nts or ntr is dick size ever mentioned im all for hating on a dev for legit things but just cause you think dick size changes nts to ntr some how doesnt mean the game has changed form nts to ntr it just means your a skitzo






but you go for a walk, I don't have to read the forums, I've played them, doing is different from saying dear friend, it's the point about the fucking differences they are an obvious reference to NTR, the NTS are oriented towards the game of sharing the couple, to joint fun, to the same expected interest, this is NTS, so, try to be more informed about what NTR and NTS mean, so maybe you won't be the one to play the fool.
 

Tecton

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but you go for a walk, I don't have to read the forums, I've played them, doing is different from saying dear friend, it's the point about the fucking differences they are an obvious reference to NTR, the NTS are oriented towards the game of sharing the couple, to joint fun, to the same expected interest, this is NTS, so, try to be more informed about what NTR and NTS mean, so maybe you won't be the one to play the fool.
You're aware not every guy has a massive dick, right? You've watched too much porn. You come across as completely oblivious. You are the porn game version of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
 

luccel

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Dick got smaller to emphasize how beta MC is. Usual trope for NTR and main attraction for this genre is to demean MC and make player feel like a cuck. There's difference between cucking and "swinging"/netorase.
It's not normal size. MC got tiny dick compare to Terrace or "crowd" in dream/imagination sequence. Any other male has 2-3 times bigger dick.
Your player/mc dick is tiny compared to any other male in this game. Remaster made it even smaller. This empathize that player/MC is a loser/beta cuck with tiniest dick in this tropical city.
so is it ntr now? no its still nts thats crazzzy. u sure typed a bunch of nothing about a trope but didnt show me where changing dick size some how changes games from nts and ntr
 
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Dick got smaller to emphasize how beta MC is. Usual trope for NTR and main attraction for this genre is to demean MC and make player feel like a cuck. There's difference between cucking and "swinging"/netorase.
It's not normal size. MC got tiny dick compare to Terrace or "crowd" in dream/imagination sequence. Any other male has 2-3 times bigger dick.
Your player/mc dick is tiny compared to any other male in this game. Remaster made it even smaller. This empathize that player/MC is a loser/beta cuck with tiniest dick in this tropical city.
Wrong. cuckolding and netorase are the same genre. Western turists are the ones bringing stag&vixen/polyamory/swinging etc elements and polluting the nts genre.
 

luccel

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but you go for a walk, I don't have to read the forums, I've played them, doing is different from saying dear friend, it's the point about the fucking differences they are an obvious reference to NTR, the NTS are oriented towards the game of sharing the couple, to joint fun, to the same expected interest, this is NTS, so, try to be more informed about what NTR and NTS mean, so maybe you won't be the one to play the fool.
try learning the meaning of nts and ntr first ur just skitzo posting about ur feelings not what the actual definitions mean
 
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