VN Ren'Py Blurring the Walls [v0.5.27] [Torimiata]

[cryfane]

The usual trolls are out in full force, I see no point believing anything they say.

The game's core themes haven't changed - still NTS-focused, same character dynamics, same story DNA. What's changed is the quality of writing, art, and overall polish.

I know some will prefer the original or not understand why it took this long - and that’s okay. For those excited about this direction, the next update drops in two weeks! For anyone else, there are plenty of other great games to enjoy.

Imma add my first comment here after been following this game for 1+ year, the wait was long, hard, and I even got afraid of never seeing this game concluded, but omg I could never expect such a good result like what I played yesterday.
You surpassed all my expectations, I was one of the ppl skeptical about the change in art to a more "boring" "generalized" "full on" anime style (I loved the tanned Ayumi from before lol), but you passed this too with how amazing the CGs ended up, the art style while, for me, is not the best one (compared to before) you compensated with great angles, povs, dynamics, situations, etc.
Damn I can't wait to have more of Blurring the Walls, Tori this update really proved how you created the BEST NTS game in this website, by FAR. Tho many would hate to admit it now because of ego and things they said in the past here.


Now Tori, I wanted to ask you something directly:

My pc has a very shitty graphics card (GTX 630, yeah more than 10 years old I know...) and it's probably the reason why the game for me runs at 30 or less FPS when the characters are in play, and in any small change of the scene it drops even lower to 10 FPS for a couple seconds. I know this has to do with graphics card because whenever I open the game it goes to 100% usage.
In the past this low FPS was only more noticeable during the animations (like the ass spanking one) but now it happens during the whole game. Since I haven't seen nobody talking about this issue I know you won't adress it anytime soon (or ever), which I'm fine as long as the game doesn't become unplayable lol, but I wanted to hear from you, is this something you're willing to improve on? Optimizing the game?

PS: we need to purge this thread too, every week some game just becomes a stupid discussion about NTR vs NTS, "MC is a beta", "noooo he gotta have a big enormous kilometrical dick!!!" etc and this is fucking annoying. Your insecurities gotta be dealt with a psychologist, not in a online porn forum.

 

[Ashoolar1989]

Y'all enjoy arguing, I'm enjoying what's there so far and hell, I'll take some actual NTR if it comes my way, even if it's just in a "bad end".

ntr is alot more fun i personally prefer it if it has a mixture of ntr/nts some choices can lead to some ntr action

 

[mok135]

ntr is alot more fun i personally prefer it if it has a mixture of ntr/nts some choices can lead to some ntr action

Adding ntr in any form would finally kill the game for me and many others. But I guess there are enough fans of ntr out there for Torimiata to find a new audience. It would be sad, but whatever, there are a lot of new nts out there nowadays, though barely any as good as this one.

(Oh yes, nts/ntr debates are back on the menu in this thread)

 

[Hard Working Dev]

My pc has a very shitty graphics card (GTX 630, yeah more than 10 years old I know...) and it's probably the reason why the game for me runs at 30 or less FPS when the characters are in play, and in any small change of the scene it drops even lower to 10 FPS for a couple seconds. I know this has to do with graphics card because whenever I open the game it goes to 100% usage.
In the past this low FPS was only more noticeable during the animations (like the ass spanking one) but now it happens during the whole game. Since I haven't seen nobody talking about this issue I know you won't adress it anytime soon (or ever), which I'm fine as long as the game doesn't become unplayable lol, but I wanted to hear from you, is this something you're willing to improve on? Optimizing the game?

Bad optimization. Bad code. Bad approach. He's overcooking Renpy with too many drawings for whatever effect he uses. Most likely to fix that, he would need to redo entire mechanic. If he ever thinks to make android port, it would kill performance entirely.

This should never have progressed beyond the "in-development" stage, and the approach to achieving this effect should have been reconsidered, redoing entire thing properly. Even on a very strong PC this makes "play" very unattractive (stutters/visual glitches). I wonder if he's tracking mouse XY and redrawing new image without any pause.

Renpy is very optimised engine, but something related to "New effects" is overdone. Works badly. The engine struggles with the current code implementation. Just because of this I cannot give more than 1 star for this game now. The lines are also super ugly.



There are other renpy games that uses similar effects without any issues.

 

[mase88]

Adding ntr in any form would finally kill the game for me and many others. But I guess there are enough fans of ntr out there for Torimiata to find a new audience. It would be sad, but whatever, there are a lot of new nts out there nowadays, though barely any as good as this one.

(Oh yes, nts/ntr debates are back on the menu in this thread)

I don't think hard NTR or cheating will be in the game. I mean even in Tori own words he says: From playful banter to pushing boundaries, a spicy yet wholesome girlfriend sharing story - NTS Visual Novel - No Cheating/NTR.

 

[Ashoolar1989]

I don't think hard NTR or cheating will be in the game. I mean even in Tori own words he says: From playful banter to pushing boundaries, a spicy yet wholesome girlfriend sharing story - NTS Visual Novel - No Cheating/NTR.

you could say it be......blurring....the.....walls abit XD

 

[ChocolotoMilkiliky]

Me when I open up the forum and it's just people arguing over the MC's dick size and how that somehow means the game completely changed genres

 

[Hard Working Dev]

Me when I open up the forum and it's just people arguing over the MC's dick size and how that somehow means the game completely changed genres

It's a discussion over new art direction and new scenes where Ayumi talks about her EX having bigger dick making MC feel more pathetic. Some people dislike these new changes, while others try to gaslight others into believing these changes don’t exist. This leads to arguments over something that’s plainly visible, with some insisting like arguing that water isn’t wet.

 

[Athres]

Bad optimization. Bad code. Bad approach. He's overcooking Renpy with too many drawings for whatever effect he uses. Most likely to fix that, he would need to redo entire mechanic. If he ever thinks to make android port, it would kill performance entirely.

If you look into game files, you will find out that almost all CG are sliced onto ~30 layers to make this effects. It could potentionally overload almost any normal GPU. Also game probably require to run it onto SSD as well.

P.S. Ayumi face on sprites and some CG looks worse than original.

 

[Hard Working Dev]

If you look into game files, you will find out that almost all CG are sliced onto ~30 layers to make this effects. It could potentionally overload almost any normal GPU. Also game probably require to run it onto SSD as well.

P.S. Ayumi face on sprites and some CG looks worse than original.

30 layers on repeat with no, or close no pause would cause game to stutter. Dev should try to add some higher pause between pictures changes. I'm not going to dig into the code, but I suspect that's how it is done. That's how a game developer looking for the simplest solution with little codding knowledge would do.
I wonder if the uneven lines are a result of images being drawn without removing the older ones, layering on top of each other and creating a stark contrast between the image lines. He should try to blue/add transparent to additional layer images. Maybe it would help.

 

[redstiletti]

Now Tori, I wanted to ask you something directly:

My pc has a very shitty graphics card (GTX 630, yeah more than 10 years old I know...) and it's probably the reason why the game for me runs at 30 or less FPS when the characters are in play, and in any small change of the scene it drops even lower to 10 FPS for a couple seconds. I know this has to do with graphics card because whenever I open the game it goes to 100% usage.
In the past this low FPS was only more noticeable during the animations (like the ass spanking one) but now it happens during the whole game. Since I haven't seen nobody talking about this issue I know you won't adress it anytime soon (or ever), which I'm fine as long as the game doesn't become unplayable lol, but I wanted to hear from you, is this something you're willing to improve on? Optimizing the game?

Tori doesn't post here anymore. You might want to try asking in his discord instead.

Like you, I have an old GPU. It's a midrange Radeon from 2016. If userbenchmark.com's numbers can be trusted, my card is 10x faster than yours. Even so, I do experience significant slowdown during certain scenes.

 

[Ashoolar1989]

Tori doesn't post here anymore. You might want to try asking in his discord instead.

Like you, I have an old GPU. It's a midrange Radeon from 2016. If userbenchmark.com's numbers can be trusted, my card is 10x faster than yours. Even so, I do experience significant slowdown during certain scenes.

mine just opted out and blue screened XD my laptop sounded like it was about to hit mach 3

 

[Hard Working Dev]

mine just opted out and blue screened XD my laptop sounded like it was about to hit mach 3

Maybe try using RivaTuner to limit renpy game frame rate to 10-20. Should be still playable without laptop exploding.

 

[cryfane]

Tori doesn't post here anymore. You might want to try asking in his discord instead.

Like you, I have an old GPU. It's a midrange Radeon from 2016. If userbenchmark.com's numbers can be trusted, my card is 10x faster than yours. Even so, I do experience significant slowdown during certain scenes.

I see, considering what someone else quoted me before as well maybe it would be a good idea to reconsider the "static animation" (how the CGs move to create a 3D effect in every scene) for the sake of optimizing the game (I'd say that's what's mainly causing lag, but I can be totally wrong since I have no inner information/understanding about code).

To me the 3D effect is kinda nice, adds more details and quality to the game ofc, but if it's making the engine struggle maybe it's not worth it? Since even a 10x faster GPU is still struggling a bit. The usual static CG for all those scenes would be great alone.

But to be honest I don't mind the lag as long as I can still play the game and my pc doensn't explode lol, but it would be nice to play smoothly, however since the 30 FPS I get doesn't matter in this kind of game it's not that frustrating for me too.

 

[Hard Working Dev]

I see, considering what someone else quoted me before as well maybe it would be a good idea to reconsider the "static animation" (how the CGs move to create a 3D effect in every scene) for the sake of optimizing the game (I'd say that's what's mainly causing lag, but I can be totally wrong since I have no inner information/understanding about code).

To me the 3D effect is kinda nice, adds more details and quality to the game ofc, but if it's making the engine struggle maybe it's not worth it? Since even a 10x faster GPU is still struggling a bit. The usual static CG for all those scenes would be great alone.

But to be honest I don't mind the lag as long as I can still play the game and my pc doensn't explode lol, but it would be nice to play smoothly, however since the 30 FPS I get doesn't matter in this kind of game it's not that frustrating for me too.

It probably uses similar layer technique like slay the princess and some renpy konosuba hentai game (that has 2.5D effect on some scenes). Both works perfectly fine on my old laptop. It is just bad code implementation.

 

[ChocolotoMilkiliky]

It's a discussion over new art direction and new scenes where Ayumi talks about her EX having bigger dick making MC feel more pathetic. Some people dislike these new changes, while others try to gaslight others into believing these changes don’t exist. This leads to arguments over something that’s plainly visible, with some insisting like arguing that water isn’t wet.

As long as it's all for the purpose of turning the MC on, I don't really see the harm. Considering how loving MC and Ayumi's relationship was before the remake, I don't expect that to change too much. Humiliation is a side of cucking that a lot of people find hot. So if that's included I don't mind. Should probably be an optional thing, though.

 

[idkmanerally]

PROs:

- i think the new art is pretty great, which was one of my biggest concerns. great job.

- the new choice system seems fun, and playing around with it, the choices really change the scenes

- i love the new ayumi characterization, getting into her past earlier, having her talking about other guys so early is amazing, great change

CONs:

- performance is terrible, i didn't do any benchmarking but the game might be 5gb and running like ass when it's caught back up to 0.5.2

- i do not believe the dev when he says 2 week releases. he has never kept a promise like this. even if they come out every 2 weeks, expect half-scene progress every release. the parallax, the multi route - all signs point to a glacial pace of progress

- im actually shocked at how little content is released for a remaster that was "almost done" for months.

- choosing to start charging again for incremental releases of the remaster after promising not to charge until the remaster is done is shameful. i will not be supporting this dev anymore.

 

[ChocolotoMilkiliky]

PROs:

- i think the new art is pretty great, which was one of my biggest concerns. great job.

- the new choice system seems fun, and playing around with it, the choices really change the scenes

- i love the new ayumi characterization, getting into her past earlier, having her talking about other guys so early is amazing, great change

CONs:

- performance is terrible, i didn't do any benchmarking but the game might be 5gb and running like ass when it's caught back up to 0.5.2

- i do not believe the dev when he says 2 week releases. he has never kept a promise like this. even if they come out every 2 weeks, expect half-scene progress every release. the parallax, the multi route - all signs point to a glacial pace of progress

- im actually shocked at how little content is released for a remaster that was "almost done" for months.

- choosing to start charging again for incremental releases of the remaster after promising not to charge until the remaster is done is shameful. i will not be supporting this dev anymore.

The last one does it for me. It's a sign that Tori actually finished much more than what the first release provides. He's probably just hiding the rest of it behind every two weeks so people will have an incentive to subscribe to his Patreon again. Who's to say that he's not doing this? It wouldn't be the first time a dev deliberately delayed content for more money rather than just giving it to us when it's done.

 

[lordlegaia]

Nice Remaster, new sistem is good and the art is great, little content for now but lets see if he can keep the promise of a update each 2 weeks. So far so good.

 

[Suntar]

Tiny dick and passive/quiet/insecure personailty on an NTS protag isn't my thing, but that doesn't mean the game will have hard NTR/cheating.
It certainly means the Dev has designed the MC specifically for a more masochist/submissive/cuckhold role. Again, not an issue. Not into it, but so what? I don't have to play the game.

Issues arise when Devs decide they also want a "dom" option for the MC. This barely ever works. If you want both routes, you have to design an MC that's believable in both roles. When your MC is the shortest guy in the game, with the smallest dick, and an all around insecure personality a dominant role becomes simply unbelievable.
On top off that, usually the so called "dom" path doesn't actually involve the MC being dominant or assertive. It often only removes the humiliation and femdom content, but doesn't add any maledom.

All of this wouldn't be an issue if devs wouldn't call this secondary path "assertive" or "dominant". Just call it what it is. Standard equal relationship.

Then people that are looking for a more dominant MC won't feel deceived and most of the arguing will stop. They'll know the game isn't going to cater to their ppreferences and they will leave.