this is exactly right and why i get so mad when people blame the community for toxicity. taking peoples money and making it sound like the update was right around the corner was so scummy. even if the update does come out and is good, i'm not giving this dev another dime. it was just so disrespectful
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hlfwaycrks
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I meant, like, something tangible from the developer that would suggest a shift towards actual NTR. Saying that NTR is going to take over an NTS game just because there are a bunch of people in the threads/comments saying they want it to happen is a bit of a stretch. Pretty much every NTS game (e.g. Netorase Phone, much more so than BtW) has a chorus of NTR fans invading and begging the dev to have their way. I fight against them all the time. While some devs have definitely caved, I'd like to see some actual indication that Tori is shifting away from NTS and towards NTR before making assumptions.
To act like the toxicity solely comes from the dev's poor communication and mistakes and not including the part the "fanbase" plays is in that is absurd. Scroll through the last 40 pages, read how bad some of the commenters get, and tell me that isn't contributing to the toxicity present in the community. You could not do so in good faith, and I am confident in that. I don't take the blame off Tori in any way as I think there's plenty of mistakes that have been made. Despite that, I feel bad for devs that have to suffer through the deluge of negativity; to act like commenters are entirely justified a result, no matter how horrible they are, is wrong.
hlfwaycrks
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"this is exactly right and why i get so mad when people blame the community for toxicity. taking peoples money and making it sound like the update was right around the corner was so scummy. even if the update does come out and is good, i'm not giving this dev another dime. it was just so disrespectful"
You're right, you didn't say that verbatim, but the emphasis added to your message makes the implication clear: anger at those blaming the community, then discussing the dev's mistakes, thus attributing the toxicity to the dev. Am I wrong?
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i cant imagine dev will abandon a game that was not only doing good when releases where on a regular basis, but that had and still has the chance to keep growing and improving. So, i will stay positive and lets hope for the best after this rework release 
From Patreon:
Very Quick Update
“Hey everyone!
Just a quick check-in to keep up with the biweekly updates - a more detailed post is coming in a couple of days, but I figured a brief note now might be helpful.
Wrapping up the remaster has been a huge, intense effort, with more late nights than I’d like to admit. Beyond the art, I’m also excited about how the script is shaping up, especially in the later scenes - it’s feeling stronger and more cohesive.
Unfortunately, I'll be traveling again in a few days for work, which means no dev time for about a week. But rest assured, I’ll post that more detailed update before I leave.
More news soon!”
Very Quick Update
“Hey everyone!
Just a quick check-in to keep up with the biweekly updates - a more detailed post is coming in a couple of days, but I figured a brief note now might be helpful.
Wrapping up the remaster has been a huge, intense effort, with more late nights than I’d like to admit. Beyond the art, I’m also excited about how the script is shaping up, especially in the later scenes - it’s feeling stronger and more cohesive.
Unfortunately, I'll be traveling again in a few days for work, which means no dev time for about a week. But rest assured, I’ll post that more detailed update before I leave.
More news soon!”
I am genuinely excited for the remaster. I know there is a lot of hate but that's just cause people care that much.
Even if it's a remaster I feel a lot of the old scenes will have changed enough visually or they are completely reworked narratively we can enjoy them again as if they are new.
For me at least I think it'll feel like getting 5-6 months worth of new stuff all at once.
Even if it's a remaster I feel a lot of the old scenes will have changed enough visually or they are completely reworked narratively we can enjoy them again as if they are new.
For me at least I think it'll feel like getting 5-6 months worth of new stuff all at once.
this all just translate Too "let me add more Few months to this Remaster, if they become shit it is because Fans rush me to release".
Jdsiis
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The other post it sounded like Tori was planning / hoping to release the remaster before or on the 14th. Now it seems like it's another 'detailed update' post?
Anyways, I hope that post is more concrete in it's update. And personally I've very excited for the remaster. It sounds like there will be a lot of changes, including the branching path system from the beginning. So, we might get alternate versions of existing scenes for different paths...?
Anyways, I hope that post is more concrete in it's update. And personally I've very excited for the remaster. It sounds like there will be a lot of changes, including the branching path system from the beginning. So, we might get alternate versions of existing scenes for different paths...?
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tori is incapable of giving a straight-ahead answer, so instead you have to read between the lines like a WWII codebreaker
the first update said "i'm traveling on the 14th and will be gone for a full week after. i MIGHT finish the update before then and release it..." and anyone who has followed this dev knows that when he says "i might be able to..." or "i'm aiming to..." it means it's not happening. this post is foreshadowing for a delay post
today's "just a quick check-in" update is the actual delay announcement. "yea the 14th ain't happening, i'll finish the update when i get back" is what he's saying here
so this means: remaster will not drop before the 14th, he will be gone for a week after that, which means AT BEST he will come back in late november, and even then, he will still have more work to do before the remaster is done
lmao
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There is actually no way hes taking this to december. Again, for the 74858th time, why couldnt he have just released the NEW content before dipping for over SIX MONTHS to remaster the game
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Classic, lie of the month+bait update. Everything checked, see you next month for another AI post.
if we get abandon Tag already, i think it might make some changing to make DEV stop lying to public.
because the new content is still not finished yet, my guess is that the dev struggle to make the 0.6 update, then he decided to make a remaster as an excuse for the delay, because if he had finished the 0.6 update he should be able to release 0.6 first before the remaster, or at least release it at the same time as the remaster, but nope, from his word it indicate that remaster and 0.6 will be seperated
Unreal.For some reason i was legit believing that he d actually release the remaster on 14 november.But yet again it seems he wont.All this waiting just for a damn remaster.Wtf is this.It ll be years until we actually see some new content/scenes(in the case that it wont get competely abandonded)
What if he say he work hard in background and create few images for use as excuse but actually he already abandon and didn’t do shit at all lol. Now I wonder where are those ball licking fans why not come to support his excuse this time? Why you all protecting a hypocrite ?
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And yet if the update does release everyone will be begging for a hero. Then they'll jerk off for two minutes and then get mad at the dev again instead of moving the fuck on.
hlfwaycrks
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Truer words have never been spoken, Joshy.
slim-kr
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Well, but the joke is that it's not coming out bud No one is talking about the content of the game anymore here. I would still be on patreon if he was not lying 24/7.
Imagine if at release date a creator is telling you that he's starting a remaster. (the update he's been teasing the months before, released in a matter of days). And 2 months later that he's releasing the remaster without the update on the weekend (lie) but you discover 1 month later that he was not even close to being ready to release anything. And from August to now he's faking it by saying it's very close (we talking days or weeks at best everytime).
The entire thing is the dev doing the worst choices with the worst communication. If you lie to people then you can't expect everyone to move the fk on.
And ofc if he ever releases something I'll be waiting here, I was a sub so I liked the game lol. But that's in no way the issue here.
No one is talking about the content of the game anymore here. I would still be on patreon if he was not lying 24/7.Imagine if at release date a creator is telling you that he's starting a remaster. (the update he's been teasing the months before, released in a matter of days). And 2 months later that he's releasing the remaster without the update on the weekend (lie) but you discover 1 month later that he was not even close to being ready to release anything. And from August to now he's faking it by saying it's very close (we talking days or weeks at best everytime).
The entire thing is the dev doing the worst choices with the worst communication. If you lie to people then you can't expect everyone to move the fk on.
And ofc if he ever releases something I'll be waiting here, I was a sub so I liked the game lol. But that's in no way the issue here.
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