Flash Abandoned Breeding Season [v7.7.2] [TheBreedingSeasonTeam]

[F1forhalp]

Is there no sound in this game? I'm using adobe flash player

not in the late versions, far as i know.
up until 5.3 (the old LOK art style) they had a very few sounds (found one mewling sound in one scene), and with the rework past that version upwards they didn't have sound, or at least i haven't found any.

 

[RamRanchRR]

this is the last time i will point to THE ALL BS DEV FILES LINK IN THE OP
which contains all the files that made it out of the mess. there are the assets, used and unused and all known versions of BS that made it public. there is the DATA folder. there are parts of HBs todo list which shows who did the coding and whatnot he was supposed to, in the end. it's all in there, the .fla files to build the game from, as well, along with the tools to even build your own game, if you're willing to try and make old Adobe tools work on modern systems.

you can keep asking, or you just download the archive and look through it. it does somewhat show what they were working on, what wasn't working or was left unfinished. it may take you an hour or three, to look through all of it, and more time to understand the structure and where they've been planning to go.
if you want new animations, go find Mittsies, who was main animator back in the las tdays of the project.. but last i've seen, Mittsies performed the art of moving on and did quite some amount of non BS related artwork, you can find it in this Flash archive.
if you want new drawings, well there's the problem. S-Purple holds ownership on his artwork for BS, and has not allowed to use any of it, to date. you could do the fallback to earlier drawings (iirc used up to ver. 6 or so) which were based on LOK sources and style, so you could grab some at the Legend of Krystal forum, and maybe even get help there. however, the proverbial so called BS curse may have artists shy away from it. still, won't hurt to ask.
what i'd suggest to not do, is ask H-Bomb for any involvement. he will want to have a say when it comes to naming, or using his script. so you go and write your own story or make it a public project to begin with. if you take him into your team, there's no telling where that leads to. or rather, i won't speak out what i see in the future for that.

Spoiler

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

So what you're saying is... We can rebuild it?

 

[F1forhalp]

So what you're saying is... We can rebuild it?

if you want to, you do whatever you want. i'm not the one to say do it, or don't do it, that's completely up to you. just consider,
-it's Flash, and you won't get any support from Adobe for Flash. you're on your own there or you migrate to a different engine.
-the art is copyrighted, and the artist said No, period. noone is to use his art. chance to face a C&D order.
-whatever of the original scripting and story is used will likely raise attention of the old coder, and then see above, C&D likely.

also, far as i know, none of the theme-a-like successors or attempts did succeed, to date. it's called the "Breeding Season curse".

 

[x_Salty_x]

Really is a shame it never got finished. It keeps being recommended.

 

[brutulf]

also, far as i know, none of the theme-a-like successors or attempts did succeed, to date. it's called the "Breeding Season curse".

I mean, from my perspective, whatever people's opinions on S-Purple are, I don't believe the game would've been as succesful as it had without his art.

The ton of animations / breeding combinations make any remake infeasible, IMHO, as it requires massive investment of time / resources to even approach the existing content a little bit.

I'm just glad that with a standalone flash player the original is still playable. I will admit to slightly modding my version - I reduced the chance of passing on a single trait, and introduced a chance to pass on all traits of a monster so on average it passes on the same amount of traits, but just more clustered. It was too frustrating to try to breed a 'perfect' monster otherwise lol.

It took me until a year ago to find out that Alita (a robotic ranch assistant) existed, btw.

 

[F1forhalp]

I mean, from my perspective, whatever people's opinions on S-Purple are, I don't believe the game would've been as succesful as it had without his art.

The ton of animations / breeding combinations make any remake infeasible, IMHO, as it requires massive investment of time / resources to even approach the existing content a little bit.

I'm just glad that with a standalone flash player the original is still playable. I will admit to slightly modding my version - I reduced the chance of passing on a single trait, and introduced a chance to pass on all traits of a monster so on average it passes on the same amount of traits, but just more clustered. It was too frustrating to try to breed a 'perfect' monster otherwise lol.

It took me until a year ago to find out that Alita (a robotic ranch assistant) existed, btw.

hmmm haven't come across that Alita robot.. likely it's in the last known version which i never went to play, because there wasn't anything added i think, just some stuff removed? hazy memory. last i've actually played was like, 7.4 or such. fiddled with the known codes a little, preg chance, energy, because those Gremlins are just too cute! gotta have 'em all.
there wasn't any visual or animation content with mandrake swine and whatnot to begin with. they just kept adding those without any a chance to cope with artwork to fill up, and the story didn't improve/progress what with their writer spending weeks with.. whatwasit, beach work, of sorts?

to pick up this thing as Flash would probly out of proportion now, hell, we could find a someone (yarr pirate website! etc. etc. so what would we care about copyrights) to just bunch up all the partial unfinished stuff in the archive, and put a close on all planned branches. the main story was more or less complete (i.e. having a conclusion at the end) already in the 5.x versions, far as i recall, before the whole artwork rework.
i estimate the whole content, then finished, with animations and all, for everything, could exceed Flash limits, or some of the late additions (without visual content anyway) would have to be 'let go'. every action in the game being point&click, maybe Ren'Py would work, idk, but i wouldn't be up for it either way. wouldn't expect for such a project to gain some bucks, when it's set on pirated source, either.

maybe tester/bughunt, maybe proofread/spellcheck but that's about it. not that much free time for development anymore, heck i'm even slacking with bug reports for them games i play recently blame old age..

 

[brutulf]

I don't actually know when she was introduced! I found her when I went digging in the code. She's extremely convenient that she can sell all consumables automatically, so you don't have to sell pages and pages of the stuff. You get her by talking to Margo, Kay, Cordelia and Ellenor, plus waiting around for random events to happen, then talk to those four some more, repeat until you get her.


Honestly, I could see a Ren'Py port happening if there weren't ton of animations. As you say, you can't make money from it, and the effort trying to port all those animations will make it infeasible. Shame, really.

 

[F1forhalp]

I don't actually know when she was introduced! I found her when I went digging in the code. She's extremely convenient that she can sell all consumables automatically, so you don't have to sell pages and pages of the stuff. You get her by talking to Margo, Kay, Cordelia and Ellenor, plus waiting around for random events to happen, then talk to those four some more, repeat until you get her.
View attachment 5020292

Honestly, I could see a Ren'Py port happening if there weren't ton of animations. As you say, you can't make money from it, and the effort trying to port all those animations will make it infeasible. Shame, really.

i'm pretty sure Mittsies (the old animator) won't be up for it.

 

[Hrmm21]

Anyone know what to do for the Marchioness request where she asks for a single monster with conflicting traits? She's asking for one monster with Added Value, Altruistic and Selfish at the same time.

 

[Xypster]

Anyone know what to do for the Marchioness request where she asks for a single monster with conflicting traits? She's asking for one monster with Added Value, Altruistic and Selfish at the same time.

I'm pretty sure monster requests are random, so you just got unlucky. If you have save or autosave from before getting the request i'd recommend rolling back to it, if not - maybe save editor of some kind. Worst case scenario - start new and remember to save before ending the day. If on the new day you'll get some kind of event with monster request you can roll it back if they request something crazy

 

[brutulf]

Are there still incompatible traits in 7.7.2?

I thought it should be possible to breed an altruistic selfish monster.

 

[F1forhalp]

Anyone know what to do for the Marchioness request where she asks for a single monster with conflicting traits? She's asking for one monster with Added Value, Altruistic and Selfish at the same time.

I'm pretty sure monster requests are random, so you just got unlucky. If you have save or autosave from before getting the request i'd recommend rolling back to it, if not - maybe save editor of some kind. Worst case scenario - start new and remember to save before ending the day. If on the new day you'll get some kind of event with monster request you can roll it back if they request something crazy

Are there still incompatible traits in 7.7.2?

I thought it should be possible to breed an altruistic selfish monster.

one can hack that one special monster, no matter what traits, and then sell it to complete the quest. no matter if that monster has the added traits inactive, they still count for the quest.
check the 7.x codes list, that one is case sensitive, means capitals and spaces in names must be exactly written
addtrait.mostername.traitname
-can be done multiple times for the same monster
-EVERY monster with the same name will get these changes, so better make sure this one has a unique name, to avoid slip-ups, and rename just in case.

..know what, here the 7.x codes as a text file, to save you some time. View attachment breeding_season_7.x_debug_codes.txt right click, save as..

 

[brutulf]

Are there still incompatible traits in 7.7.2?

I thought it should be possible to breed an altruistic selfish monster.

I double checked, and you indeed can't have an altruistic selfish monster, interesting.

I'd follow f1forhalps advice and just add altruistic or selfish to a monster that already has the other requirements for the marquis.

You can also export your saves and edit the json file to give yourself a different request, but that seems more complicated than his solution.

 

[F1forhalp]

I double checked, and you indeed can't have an altruistic selfish monster, interesting.

I'd follow f1forhalps advice and just add altruistic or selfish to a monster that already has the other requirements for the marquis.

You can also export your saves and edit the json file to give yourself a different request, but that seems more complicated than his solution.

another way would be to save scum: save just before starting the quest, and reload that particular save when you don't like the requested monster traits. be ware, the requested traits are 'random' and Flash isn't that much known for decent RNG, so expect trait loops.