Ren'Py Brothel King [v0.3] [Goldo]

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Jman9

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Where can I get the latest version of the game and/or the latest story/gameplay patches for v0.15b?
Version . Version . Both have patches, and both patches are necessary. But AFAIK 0.15b hasn't had a terribly big amount of story added via patches.
 

Ego Orb

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I can tell you how to do a quick'n'dirty hotfix, but that'll mean your girls can run out of customers far more easily than currently. But at least there will be no more stealth deflowerings.

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Hmm, do you mean that the customers wouldn't be interested in doing anything with the girls unless they had one of the sex options unlocked and checked that matched what they wanted? Is that the way it used to work before the matchmaking update?
 

Jman9

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Hmm, do you mean that the customers wouldn't be interested in doing anything with the girls unless they had one of the sex options unlocked and checked that matched what they wanted?
More like the girl would run away if requested to perform acts she's not allowed to do or is uncomfortable with. But the effect is largely the same, yeah.

Actually, discard the previous. You can just add to line ~1785 in BKclasses.rpy so it changes from
Code:
            if not chosen:
                chosen = rand_choice(girls)
to
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            if not chosen:
                chosen = rand_choice(girls)
                sex_act = rand_choice([act for act in all_sex_acts if chosen.does[act] == True])

Is that the way it used to work before the matchmaking update?
No, the system was the same, the new matchmaking just misses a sanity check when the pickings are slim.
 
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khumak

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One feature I'd really like to see if it's not already in there somewhere is an option to train a girl to develop a positive fetish, especially in cases where there are certain acts where she has NOTHING she likes. An example of something that would make sense to me would be to start the training session off with a positive fetish she already has for some other act and then escalate to the act that she has zero interest in.

So for instance let's say a girl has a positive fetish public blowjobs but there are zero sex acts that she likes. So you start her training off with her giving you a blowjob in public and then escalate it to a random sex act with some nonzero chance that she will decide she likes whatever random fetish she ended up doing within the sex category.

The negative fetishes don't bother me since there's already a way to train her to remove those, but I haven't found a way to add a positive one.
 

Leortha

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Two of the traits will add positive fixations. One adds a random one, another always adds "Cosplay".

Beyond that there is no way to add other positive ones. Goldo, the developer, has in the past stated that he does not want to add a way to do that. His reasoning is that doing so would lead towards cookie-cutter girls, where they all end up with the same fixations. And one of his normal design goals is to avoid the girls regularly ending up too similar.
 

Ego Orb

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More like the girl would run away if requested to perform acts she's not allowed to do or is uncomfortable with. But the effect is largely the same, yeah.

Actually, discard the previous. You can just add to line ~1785 in BKclasses.rpy so it changes from
Code:
            if not chosen:
                chosen = rand_choice(girls)
to
Code:
            if not chosen:
                chosen = rand_choice(girls)
                sex_act = rand_choice([act for act in all_sex_acts if chosen.does[act] == True])


No, the system was the same, the new matchmaking just misses a sanity check when the pickings are slim.
This seemed to work, and I haven't noticed any drawbacks yet. She seems to still get customers every night, but without them taking her virginity like they used to. Thanks again for the help. Btw, does anyone post here when an update to the beta gets pushed? It'd be nice if it was also part of the OP, I don't think 0.2 is that bad off as it is right now not to warrant it. :unsure:
 

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Version . Version . Both have patches, and both patches are necessary. But AFAIK 0.15b hasn't had a terribly big amount of story added via patches.
Thank you sir! You are a scholar and a gentleman!
 
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Jman9

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does anyone post here when an update to the beta gets pushed?
Kite80, most likely. :)

It'd be nice if it was also part of the OP
I think there are plans to revamp the OP once 0.2 gets a full release. Otherwise, it's still a bit too buggy, as this very page demonstrates.

One feature I'd really like to see if it's not already in there somewhere is an option to train a girl to develop a positive fetish
I kinda doubt it'll be included in vanilla, unless you come to the HHS forums and pester Goldo so much he'll include it just to shut you up. :D

in cases where there are certain acts where she has NOTHING she likes.
Be glad you can perform advanced training in these situations now.

I haven't found a way to add a positive one.
If you really need this feature, you can try extracting it from Bonanza. You'll need some familiarity with Python and Ren'Py, though. Be warned, it took me a considerable amount of effort to add, and a chunk of it might need readjustment for vanilla.
 

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This could be a good suggest, adding a feature which allows MC to push a girl getting a fixation in a sexual area where she doesn't have any AND if she's currently without phobias. I was thinking about a special multi session hypno training, similar to the one which removes phobias. Why hypno? Because how else would you instill a sexual fixation to someone who normally doesn't have one?
What do you think guys, is it worth trying to ask Goldo about it?
 
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DougTheC

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This could be a good suggest, adding a feature which allows MC to push a girl getting a fixation...
What do you think guys, is it worth trying to ask Goldo about it?
Not if it resulted in ver 0.2 being postponed even a single hour.
 

Jman9

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I'm all for it, given that I implemented my own version. But even if Goldo ditches my laser-precision menus in favour of random fixations, it'd take several hours to just implement and do some preliminary testing, never mind any clever bugs.
 

khumak

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This could be a good suggest, adding a feature which allows MC to push a girl getting a fixation in a sexual area where she doesn't have any AND if she's currently without phobias. I was thinking about a special multi session hypno training, similar to the one which removes phobias. Why hypno? Because how else would you instill a sexual fixation to someone who normally doesn't have one?
What do you think guys, is it worth trying to ask Goldo about it?
That's pretty much what I was asking for as well. I'm also fine with it having some limitations like maybe it's only an option for an act where she has zero positive fixations. So in that instance you could use it to give each sex act at most 1 positive fixation. So if she already had one or more it's not an option. That way the mechanic couldn't be abused to make super nymphos that have positive fixations for everything.

I'm not sure if the fixations the girls have is predetermined or randomized, but if it's randomized then it seems like you can get pretty unlucky with it. The last time I played the first girl I hired had zero positive fixations for nudity, service, sex, anal, and group. The only sex act she had any positive fixations for was fetish.
 

Jman9

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I'm not sure if the fixations the girls have is predetermined or randomized
Not sure what exactly you mean by 'predetermined', but they can be both. Usually, it's 3 positive and 1 negative (2 positive and 1 negative in 0.2), plus another 1-2 depending on her personality. All of these are largely random, except that masochists always have a fetish-related fixation. But you can specify fixations in .ini files, so they're more likely to generate or can even be completely fixed.

The last time I played the first girl I hired had zero positive fixations...
A really repressed girl, then. :) These crop up sometimes. Use her and dump her, either into a job or on the market. You have no obligation to stick with your very first slave, anyway.
 

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This time I was thinking we can make a function dealing with such positive fixation hypno implantation (or call it anything you like), so that putting it into the game would be a 5 min job for Goldo. Jman already has something similar if I didn't misunderstood, so we have a good starting point
 

Jman9

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Jman already has something similar if I didn't misunderstood
I had a pretty detailed system for adding fixations, allowing the player to pick an act, step (foreplay/action/finish) and fixation. It's spread over a number of files, and would need some changes, especially if you want to make it random and move it from training to hypnosis. 0.2 might have changed some systems around, too.

Download Bonanza's 0.4.1.1 patch to get the scripts and start with 'label slave_add_fixation(girl)' in BKinteractions.rpy, searching for functions and dictionaries as you encounter them.
 

Leortha

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Also, before spending too much time on this, I would suggest asking Golgo over on the BK forum if he would be willing to add this, even if presented it on a silver platter. Presenting him with the code already ready helps the situation a lot, but there is still the issue of the lack of this being a design decision on his part. It would be a waste if effort was put into this, then he still says that he does not want something like this in the game anyway.
 

Jman9

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Even if Goldo is vehemently against it for some reason, it's easy enough to turn the whole thing into an option. One hidden in the settings file, even.

And for effort, I think I've already done the worst parts of the grunt work, and some Bonanza players might have even tested it. The conditions to trigger it were rather draconian, though (all fixations uncovered and all phobias removed).
 
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khumak

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Even if Goldo is vehemently against it for some reason, it's easy enough to turn the whole thing into an option. One hidden in the settings file, even.

And for effort, I think I've already done the worst parts of the grunt work, and some Bonanza players might have even tested it. The conditions to trigger it were rather draconian, though (all fixation uncovered and all phobias removed).
To me it's fine if it's a difficult process. In fact I actually think it should be difficult. You're training a girl to change her nature. That shouldn't be easy.

It would be nice if it was part of the base game but I'd be almost as happy with a mod that does that. My main reason for wanting it is that for this type of game I like to know that eventually I can get the girl fully trained. To me a girl that permanently has no positive fixations isn't really trainable. She's a temp that I will have to just sell and get a new girl until I find one who is fully trainable.

I did try the Bonanza mod but I was getting crashes so I'm not sure if I installed it wrong or if I just ran into some bugs.
 

Jman9

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It would be nice if it was part of the base game but I'd be almost as happy with a mod that does that.
A modular mod would still need Goldo's cooperation. And a non-modular mod would be hell to maintain.

I did try the Bonanza mod but I was getting crashes so I'm not sure if I installed it wrong or if I just ran into some bugs.
Both are possible. I did fix a few bugs for some players less than a month back. But I can't help you if I don't have detailed bug reports.

To me a girl that permanently has no positive fixations isn't really trainable.
Well, no girls have zero positive fixations. But some can have only two, plus what they get from perks.

...I like to know that eventually I can get the girl fully trained.

...a temp that I will have to just sell and get a new girl until I find one who is fully trainable.
You'll probably hate Bonanza's chapter 1, then. Maybe chapter 2 and 3, too. All the girls you have there are more or less guaranteed to be temps, and you'll be spending at least a year if not two with them.
 
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