SisconM
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This is going to be a biased statement, but I believe the allure/fans of certain tags (especially NTR) is actually an indirect interest in corruption, and what makes or break a long running story is how the corruption is written, it is the core of preventing sex scenes from being repetitive and stagnant.
before we begin, I need to preface this as I am not an experienced porn writer/porn game dev, but just a dude with a corruption fetish confident in his own analytical skills(that might have dabbled in making games). I decided to write this as I am tired of the mass of low quality crap that graces the net( and maybe I just want more things to my taste
)
What is corruption?
In the context of porn stories, it's when characters get pushed accepting into more depraved acts, often turning innocent characters into complete sluts. However that is not just the only use case for this, even vanilla stories can benefit from some "corruption" where the innocent couple takes steps to further their intimacy, a the simplest example would be the couple finally crossing the line into having sex, or even something like going from holding hands to holding breasts. Another vanilla friendly example would be the innocent girlfriend getting convinced to wear sexier costumes for her partner.
EDIT: after a discussion below, I do need to admit this is a looser definition that includes "Sexual progression" which I personally see as "soft corruption". Normally, the corruption tag invokes the more negative image of a depraved fall of a character.
What is corruption's role in stories?
If you think about it corruption in porn is akin to power scaling in action stories, it's no fun when the character starts off fully overpowered without having to work for any power ups. Your characters getting more depraved and exploring further into pleasure and the journey towards is an often under utilized part of the genre that really gives certain series their growth and avoids stagnation of sex scenes.
It's about the journey, not the destination
The main offenders are those that have the girls turn into instant sluts from one dose of vitamin big D.
Many stories I've read (hentai manga, VNs, porn games here) tend to focus on the new state of the character after crossing a line, or quickly wanting to show the character in depraved acts. If reaching a milestone is the meat, the build up towards it is the seasoning. This can change something from bland H scene to anticipated moment.
An example would be when progressing into trying anal, many hentai artist tend to just make the girl instantly loose enough and slutty enough to like it the moment the male decides they want to try the backdoor. The whole exploration from convincing each other to try, to preparing and training the ass with toys or whatnot can build up heavily to the moment.
Examples of anal buildup(H manga):
[The Perverted Virgin Public Morals Committee Member’s Secret Naughty Request 3] by Labomagi is an example of the anticipation being built for that "next step" in their sexual exploration
[Touchuukasou 8] by Fuetakishi is an example of a more "sudden" step into anal, note that they build it up as the "last barrier" emotionally and only having slight preparation, so they don't get the 100% instant pleasure and have to adapt to the discomfort, them enduring the discomfort in itself showcases how far they have fallen and are willing to go further (this is the finale of the series).
Explore the whole step, not just where the step lands
Exploring the barriers and the incentives behind the characters crossing them can enhance anticipation to the scene itself.
Instead of having the girl instantly falling for big cock, have an extra section where she tries out her usual sized stuff and she can't feel satisfied enough, and she starts craving that high the big cock gave her. This will help build up anticipation and make the scene where she goes back to the big cock much more satisfying.
Another simpler example would be a girl reluctantly caving in to wearing a pervy costume after debating if they need the extra cash their client would provide.
Take many Smaller Steps, not big leaps
As much as people want to see the girl in her final form, splitting big changes into smaller steps can help smooth out or increase the content in your story. Having multiple mini milestones is sometimes better than just skipping from one major one to another. Your character is a person, you can create barriers to certain acts and break them one by one.
The simplest bad example would be the classic NTR progression of [touching>condom sex>oh no we ran out of condoms raw creampie], if you only use 3 steps like this, you'll have to get creative with what comes after the 3rd step(some just give up and add more girls to rinse and repeat lmao).
Instead, you can pace it out further, for example[touching > only blowjob> condom sex > raw sex without creampie > creampie] , and you have much more content and steps to explore, be creative with the process, I've read one H manga where their progress from condom to raw was them trying out smaller and smaller condoms until they went raw.
You can always pick the starting point and end point, and then try to fill in many steps in between, that way if you need to cut budget in your game/story you can just remove some of the in-between steps and still have a finale.
The main thing that's often mistaken here is the "working for it" part, one common mistake I feel is that majority of the work shouldn't be done by the player, but the character. Making something grindy for the player to get from Corruption Point A to Corruption Point B is just tedious and will not sweeten the unlock when they finally get there. If you want effort from the player, you need to give the same amount of results. Instead of playing 15 mins of generic minigame to pass a threshold to make a blowjob scene change into deepthroat scene, give the player more insights into their progress, not some [0/15] counter, but make it so that the scene changes slightly after a small-medium grind, just bite the bullet and make more scenes, have a corruption meter that voices the character's inner thoughts, get creative. This is especially true if you're making a "game with porn" and not a "porn game", remember what's the main draw of your game, especially if it's basically an inferior version of an existing game and your selling point is that it has porn in it.
Choose your starting corruption point and be creative with making obstacles
Figure out what your character is already open to at the start, and know that the lewder they are, the less steps you have before you have to get into the more creative extremes. Remember there is no universal "progression" you need to follow, as long as your character feels that one act is a personal taboo, it is fine to create your own obstacles to jump over.
For example some characters might be so protective of their pussy they are ok with being an anal slut first.
Another more out of the box example is a character with an extreme aversion to putting cock in her mouth, preferring other acts over even licking cock. When she finally breaks this barrier, it would be the final moment of her corruption.
EDIT : Remember, sex is a personal thing, and the "obstacles" can be personal as well, and do not need to be universally recognized. A good example is in Hero's Party Must Fall, the two girls have opposing views on anal, one of them treats it as a high perversion, while the other treats it as a pointless hole she rather sacrifice over her pussy virginity. This example is especially nice because it shows two differing opinions in the same setting, I've notice that authors tend to try and set these obstacles as 'social norms' in their setting instead of the 'personal taboos' as they should be.
Why is NTR(and it's sister tags) so common and abused?
To put it simply, NTR is to Corruption what Isekai is to Fantasy. It's a cheap abused shortcut for the authors, for isekai authors can simply compare things to earth stuff instead of coming up with a description of something (eg. "it is a blue apple" vs "blue, crunchy sweet tangy fruit"). For Corruption, NTR is a simple cheat to make every act of intimacy a taboo, instead of coming up with how a character personally feels about certain acts, and why they might find some too depraved, suddenly even kissing has that taboo of cheating. A loyal partner is more "pure" than the most sexually naive of characters in a way.
This is why the genre is a laughing stock with their low quality and high quantity, because authors want to add quick spice or think it's just the "go to" tag without figuring out why.
If you do choose to go with NTR, think to yourself the reasons and usage. Are you focusing on the cheating aspect? Are you simply just using it for a cheap taboo? Are you using it just because it's popular? What does it add to the game/story?
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying that using it willy nilly just because will not do your writing any favours. Focus on what benefits it'll bring to your story/project.
Understand your own strengths and weaknesses(+ misc ranting)
This is more generic advice, but understanding the main selling point of your game/story is better than making a generic one with things you think might sell mashed together. This is especially true about the amount of effort and money you can put into the project, overestimate yourself and you're just another abandoned project in the sea.
You do not need to please everyone, you just need to please a demographic that'll really enjoy it, specialize instead of making something generic. Having a few characters explore deep into a certain topic is much better than 20 characters lightly touching on every fetish.
When finding your niche remember,
Not everyone will enjoy unrealistic kinks and it's alright (look at the amount of debates on cervix penetration) (John K. Peta goes nuts with anatomy and bro is still making H manga). Unless your selling point is realism, who cares? Fiction is fiction for a reason. If you do make it realistic, remember to find a selling point of it over watching regular porn.
When you need to cut budget/effort and trim a project, try to figure out what aspects of the game truly contribute to the overall quality, and find the parts of the game/story that are just the cherry on top that you can remove. Rate things by how much they contribute, and how much they cost to implement.
Almost everything has a pro and con,
Even using AI art has it's strengths, although the quality has it's limits, it has more potential quantity than a whole team of artists. I've seen some of the recent trend of "phone NTR games" not fully utilize the quantity and use CGs semi sparingly, nothing is more disappointing than a big build up into an orgasm pic and it's just a generic sex CG. Break the scenes into more steps to give more reasons to show more CG, but just be careful not to bombard the user without reason. Be creative, add PoVs, social media posts, OF equivalent apps. However be aware that the AI art will never be the main attraction so you have to deliver with your writing else it'll be a sorry excuse of a story made just to show generic art. Remember it is a tool, not a replacement for anything.
before we begin, I need to preface this as I am not an experienced porn writer/porn game dev, but just a dude with a corruption fetish confident in his own analytical skills(that might have dabbled in making games). I decided to write this as I am tired of the mass of low quality crap that graces the net( and maybe I just want more things to my taste
)What is corruption?
In the context of porn stories, it's when characters get pushed accepting into more depraved acts, often turning innocent characters into complete sluts. However that is not just the only use case for this, even vanilla stories can benefit from some "corruption" where the innocent couple takes steps to further their intimacy, a the simplest example would be the couple finally crossing the line into having sex, or even something like going from holding hands to holding breasts. Another vanilla friendly example would be the innocent girlfriend getting convinced to wear sexier costumes for her partner.
EDIT: after a discussion below, I do need to admit this is a looser definition that includes "Sexual progression" which I personally see as "soft corruption". Normally, the corruption tag invokes the more negative image of a depraved fall of a character.
What is corruption's role in stories?
If you think about it corruption in porn is akin to power scaling in action stories, it's no fun when the character starts off fully overpowered without having to work for any power ups. Your characters getting more depraved and exploring further into pleasure and the journey towards is an often under utilized part of the genre that really gives certain series their growth and avoids stagnation of sex scenes.
It's about the journey, not the destination
The main offenders are those that have the girls turn into instant sluts from one dose of vitamin big D.
Many stories I've read (hentai manga, VNs, porn games here) tend to focus on the new state of the character after crossing a line, or quickly wanting to show the character in depraved acts. If reaching a milestone is the meat, the build up towards it is the seasoning. This can change something from bland H scene to anticipated moment.
An example would be when progressing into trying anal, many hentai artist tend to just make the girl instantly loose enough and slutty enough to like it the moment the male decides they want to try the backdoor. The whole exploration from convincing each other to try, to preparing and training the ass with toys or whatnot can build up heavily to the moment.
Examples of anal buildup(H manga):
[The Perverted Virgin Public Morals Committee Member’s Secret Naughty Request 3] by Labomagi is an example of the anticipation being built for that "next step" in their sexual exploration
[Touchuukasou 8] by Fuetakishi is an example of a more "sudden" step into anal, note that they build it up as the "last barrier" emotionally and only having slight preparation, so they don't get the 100% instant pleasure and have to adapt to the discomfort, them enduring the discomfort in itself showcases how far they have fallen and are willing to go further (this is the finale of the series).
Explore the whole step, not just where the step lands
Exploring the barriers and the incentives behind the characters crossing them can enhance anticipation to the scene itself.
Instead of having the girl instantly falling for big cock, have an extra section where she tries out her usual sized stuff and she can't feel satisfied enough, and she starts craving that high the big cock gave her. This will help build up anticipation and make the scene where she goes back to the big cock much more satisfying.
Another simpler example would be a girl reluctantly caving in to wearing a pervy costume after debating if they need the extra cash their client would provide.
Take many Smaller Steps, not big leaps
As much as people want to see the girl in her final form, splitting big changes into smaller steps can help smooth out or increase the content in your story. Having multiple mini milestones is sometimes better than just skipping from one major one to another. Your character is a person, you can create barriers to certain acts and break them one by one.
The simplest bad example would be the classic NTR progression of [touching>condom sex>oh no we ran out of condoms raw creampie], if you only use 3 steps like this, you'll have to get creative with what comes after the 3rd step(some just give up and add more girls to rinse and repeat lmao).
Instead, you can pace it out further, for example[touching > only blowjob> condom sex > raw sex without creampie > creampie] , and you have much more content and steps to explore, be creative with the process, I've read one H manga where their progress from condom to raw was them trying out smaller and smaller condoms until they went raw.
You can always pick the starting point and end point, and then try to fill in many steps in between, that way if you need to cut budget in your game/story you can just remove some of the in-between steps and still have a finale.
The main thing that's often mistaken here is the "working for it" part, one common mistake I feel is that majority of the work shouldn't be done by the player, but the character. Making something grindy for the player to get from Corruption Point A to Corruption Point B is just tedious and will not sweeten the unlock when they finally get there. If you want effort from the player, you need to give the same amount of results. Instead of playing 15 mins of generic minigame to pass a threshold to make a blowjob scene change into deepthroat scene, give the player more insights into their progress, not some [0/15] counter, but make it so that the scene changes slightly after a small-medium grind, just bite the bullet and make more scenes, have a corruption meter that voices the character's inner thoughts, get creative. This is especially true if you're making a "game with porn" and not a "porn game", remember what's the main draw of your game, especially if it's basically an inferior version of an existing game and your selling point is that it has porn in it.
Choose your starting corruption point and be creative with making obstacles
Figure out what your character is already open to at the start, and know that the lewder they are, the less steps you have before you have to get into the more creative extremes. Remember there is no universal "progression" you need to follow, as long as your character feels that one act is a personal taboo, it is fine to create your own obstacles to jump over.
For example some characters might be so protective of their pussy they are ok with being an anal slut first.
Another more out of the box example is a character with an extreme aversion to putting cock in her mouth, preferring other acts over even licking cock. When she finally breaks this barrier, it would be the final moment of her corruption.
EDIT : Remember, sex is a personal thing, and the "obstacles" can be personal as well, and do not need to be universally recognized. A good example is in Hero's Party Must Fall, the two girls have opposing views on anal, one of them treats it as a high perversion, while the other treats it as a pointless hole she rather sacrifice over her pussy virginity. This example is especially nice because it shows two differing opinions in the same setting, I've notice that authors tend to try and set these obstacles as 'social norms' in their setting instead of the 'personal taboos' as they should be.
Why is NTR(and it's sister tags) so common and abused?
To put it simply, NTR is to Corruption what Isekai is to Fantasy. It's a cheap abused shortcut for the authors, for isekai authors can simply compare things to earth stuff instead of coming up with a description of something (eg. "it is a blue apple" vs "blue, crunchy sweet tangy fruit"). For Corruption, NTR is a simple cheat to make every act of intimacy a taboo, instead of coming up with how a character personally feels about certain acts, and why they might find some too depraved, suddenly even kissing has that taboo of cheating. A loyal partner is more "pure" than the most sexually naive of characters in a way.
This is why the genre is a laughing stock with their low quality and high quantity, because authors want to add quick spice or think it's just the "go to" tag without figuring out why.
If you do choose to go with NTR, think to yourself the reasons and usage. Are you focusing on the cheating aspect? Are you simply just using it for a cheap taboo? Are you using it just because it's popular? What does it add to the game/story?
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying that using it willy nilly just because will not do your writing any favours. Focus on what benefits it'll bring to your story/project.
Understand your own strengths and weaknesses(+ misc ranting)
This is more generic advice, but understanding the main selling point of your game/story is better than making a generic one with things you think might sell mashed together. This is especially true about the amount of effort and money you can put into the project, overestimate yourself and you're just another abandoned project in the sea.
You do not need to please everyone, you just need to please a demographic that'll really enjoy it, specialize instead of making something generic. Having a few characters explore deep into a certain topic is much better than 20 characters lightly touching on every fetish.
When finding your niche remember,
Not everyone will enjoy unrealistic kinks and it's alright (look at the amount of debates on cervix penetration) (John K. Peta goes nuts with anatomy and bro is still making H manga). Unless your selling point is realism, who cares? Fiction is fiction for a reason. If you do make it realistic, remember to find a selling point of it over watching regular porn.
When you need to cut budget/effort and trim a project, try to figure out what aspects of the game truly contribute to the overall quality, and find the parts of the game/story that are just the cherry on top that you can remove. Rate things by how much they contribute, and how much they cost to implement.
Almost everything has a pro and con,
Even using AI art has it's strengths, although the quality has it's limits, it has more potential quantity than a whole team of artists. I've seen some of the recent trend of "phone NTR games" not fully utilize the quantity and use CGs semi sparingly, nothing is more disappointing than a big build up into an orgasm pic and it's just a generic sex CG. Break the scenes into more steps to give more reasons to show more CG, but just be careful not to bombard the user without reason. Be creative, add PoVs, social media posts, OF equivalent apps. However be aware that the AI art will never be the main attraction so you have to deliver with your writing else it'll be a sorry excuse of a story made just to show generic art. Remember it is a tool, not a replacement for anything.
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